Who can we least afford to lose?

[Stautner]

So, hypothetically if we lose a certain player we need to project to what would have happened LAST year under a completely different defensive system.

That sir, sounds more ridiculous than the "who could be least afford to lose if Bill Parcells were still coaching here" which is exactly what you are suggesting.

Well, that's certainly putting words in my mouth that I never uttered .......

What you do is you speculate as to how it would affect THIS TEAM in THIS SCHEME

It's stupid to speculate as to how losing a Cowboy player would affect San Diego......... and then turn around and assume that your apples to turnips comparison applies to Dallas.

 

[5Stars]

What does anyone think what would happen of T.O. went down?

Do you think we could replace him and be effective?

(disclaimer: i'm not a T.O. lover, just a cowboy fan)

 

[AbeBeta]

It's stupid to speculate as to how losing a Cowboy player would affect San Diego......... and then turn around and assume that your apples to turnips comparison applies to Dallas.

So your point is then that this whole thread is crap.

Thanks for helping make it that!

 

[Stautner]

What does anyone think what would happen of T.O. went down?

Do you think we could replace him and be effective?

(disclaimer: i'm not a T.O. lover, just a cowboy fan)

I suspect we would be okay with Crayton stepping in, but without a doubt we would lose some big play ability.

In other words, I don't think it would kill any chance to be an effective offense, but our offense would certainly lose an important element.

(P.S. - see how it works abersonc? We speculate as to how it would affect THIS team with THESE players - not how it would affect some other team with a similar offensive scheme).

 

[Stautner]

So your point is then that this whole thread is crap.

Thanks for helping make it that!

You, again, are putting words into my mouth I never said.

If you have a logical point to make, do so. But don't try and cover your inadequate arguments by blatently falsifying what I am saying.

AS I ALREADY MENTIONED - hypoteticals are fine and can be fun to discuss as long as the points of discussion are based in logic and not founded in irrelevent comparisons.

You simply can't determine how losing Newman would affect the Cowboys by speculating how losing Newman would affect the Chargers:

First of all, Newman NEVER PLAYED for the Chargers - so there is NO point of comparison.

Second, the Chargers have an entirely differenct cast of characters than Dallas, so there is NO point of comparison as to how the team would be affected.

LOOK AT MY PREVIOUS POST FOR A CLUE ......

 

[rojan]

Everyone seems to be forgetting Witten.

 

[AbeBeta]

You, again, are putting words into my mouth I never said.

Like you are saying that I speculated that the Chargers had Newman?

Here is what I said. That's a far cry from what you are claim I said. Pretty funny too since you have been whining for about 3 posts about me putting words in your mouth.

I think we could play a game or two without Newman -- so long as the pass rush was doing well. In SD, their secondary got exposed over against good passing teams (and those who blocked the rush better). The Henry-Glenn combination is going to be about as good as the SD corners last year (of course if Cromartie comes on, that group will be much better).

If you have a logical point to make, do so. But don't try and cover your inadequate arguments by blatently falsifying what I am saying.

Wow. It is like you are talking about your own post instead of mine.

You simply can't determine how losing Newman would affect the Cowboys by speculating how losing Newman would affect the Chargers:

First of all, Newman NEVER PLAYED for the Chargers - so there is NO point of comparison.

Stop hitting yourself.

LOOK AT MY PREVIOUS POST FOR A CLUE ......

Will the bleeding ever stop!!!!

 

[superpunk]

Everyone seems to be forgetting Witten.

Witten's a great player, but I don't know that he really makes our offense go.

Plus, we have what ought to be a very capable backup in Fasano.

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

Romo is the answer, you cannot remove him from the question...

Followed by T. Newman and D. Ware!

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

Terrell Owens. Plain and simple.

The WHOLE offensive game plan changes... and the other WR's & TE's see MUCH TIGHTER coverage.... AND... they bring the HOUSE after Romo.

 

[Stautner]

Like you are saying that I speculated that the Chargers had Newman?

Your way of reading words in a way that doesn't coincide with what they mean is laughable.

You said that Glenn and Henry were about like San Diego's DB's and implied that losing Newman and leaving us with Glenn and Henry would make us about like San Diego.

My point is that losing Newman and leaving us with a secondary similar to San Diego's doesn't mean squat - the thread is about who we could least afford to lose, and since San Diego didn't lose Newman, or even a Newman type player, there is no point of comparison.

But more importaint is that how Dallas would get bye with an average secondary has little to do with how San Diego fared with it. It's a different situation with different teammates. You can't just claim 2 teams with similarly average secondaries are going to handle it equally.

Wow. It is like you are talking about your own post instead of mine.

The old "I'm rubber you're glue" argument - hard to respond to that .......

Stop hitting yourself.

Damn, I've forgotten how to carry on a 4th grade argument. Fortunately I have a 4th grade daughter I can ask, but considering she gets all the academic accolades possible I suspect she would have a hard time engaging in a debate at your level.

Will the bleeding ever stop!!!!

Good one - you are making stronger points with every word you type!

 

[BouncingCheese]

Newman's health and importance are important if the defensive line does not play up to snuff.... SD WISHED in their wildest dream they had a player like Newman in their secondary with his talent, let alone our secondary from last season it was that bad. Yet look how they played with what they had. If the line plays well, then a possible injury in the secondary would not be so devastating.

 

[Stautner]

Newman's health and importance are important if the defensive line does not play up to snuff.... SD WISHED in their wildest dream they had a player like Newman in their secondary with his talent, let alone our secondary from last season it was that bad. Yet look how they played with what they had. If the line plays well, then a possible injury in the secondary would not be so devastating.

This is all very true. IF the Cowboy's D-line (and LB's - don't forget them) play extremely well then we could survive an average secondary without Newman. I'm not sure if you were responding to me at all, but if so my only point was that it isn't a given that we will be capable of survivng it the same way San Diego did, and that because the personnel is different then just because we will have a similar scheme doesn't automatically mean we will have similar results.

 

[AbeBeta]

Damn, I've forgotten how to carry on a 4th grade argument.

You sell yourself short.

 

[5Stars]

You sell yourself short.

What went on between you two that you argue with each other so much?


:laugh2: :laugh2: :laugh2: You guys need to go to a strip club for some drinks and talk this out!

 

[Stautner]

You sell yourself short.

As long as you refuse to offer any words with supstance then it is pretty easy ........come on, hit me with something that actually means something and lets see where it goes.

By the way, "sticks and stones ...." doesn't qualify as "sustance".

 

[ZeroClub]

In my mind it's between Flo, Newman, Ferguson, or Ware.

Doomsday101 mentioned Gurode.

IMO, Gurode makes the short list along with, say, Newman and Ware.

 

[Stautner]

Doomsday101 mentioned Gurode.

IMO, Gurode makes the short list along with, say, Newman and Ware.

Gurode is a consideration for me as well. It's not so much that I think Gurode is such an outstanding player, but it's more that I have no comfort level at all with the backups.

Witten is also a concern because I'm not yet sold on Fasano, but I at least think we have some hope at that position and there are ways to compensate for not having a top receiving TE.

As many have mentioned, obviously Ware and Newman belong on the list, but at least at those spots - particularly Ware's spot - we have some backup options that at least may have the potential to get the job done.

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

What went on between you two that you argue with each other so much?

Sexual Tension?

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

Newman or Ferguson IMO.