Who do you think has done a better job rebuilding his franchise? Parcells or Gibbs?

[Maikeru-sama]

Oh and Tru, that is a good observation, I was like you, thought they had way more talent then we did, but I guess when you break it down, it was pretty even.

But you gotta remember though, they were spending way more money then we were then.

 

[ghost]

I voted that they were about the same.

I would say that Gibbs has done a better job of bringing in quality assistant coaches and coordinators while Parcells has done a better job of building more talent among the players.

Our drafts, outside of offensive linemen, have been much better than theirs as well as how we have handled FA. They gave up too much to get Portis, let some of their top defensive players walk, and wasted multiple picks on a backup QB.

We have missed and overpaid on some of our FA signings but overall we have done a good job of retaining good players and hitting in the draft. Trading down to still get Julius Jones as well as picking up Marcus Spears this year was a move that worked out well for us so far and will look even better as Spears gets up to speed next season.

draft-wise, we haven't done that much worse than you guys- sean taylor and chris cooley were all pro-bowl worthy, carlos rogers is getting better every game, jason campbell is a rook qb on the bench, Mccune and Broughton have both seriosuly helped our kick return unit- one of the reasons why we've taken two to the house this year.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Which brings me to my 2nd point. I think acquiring Gregg Williams was huge for them. He had Matt Bowen looking like a bona fide kamakaze bltizing Pro Bowl machine a couple of years ago.

Sal Palantonio and the guy on Fox said Williams is at the top of alot of head coaching job lists.

I wish we had a defensive innovator like that on our team.

Now I will amusingly wait for summoffun or whatever his name is to follow me in this thread proclaiming I have an agenda :bang2: .

That is why I keep saying I have to wait. Both guys are far from finished, I think the success of the predoccesor will always provide a clue as who was the best job.

I agree with that. Greg Williams was maybe the best move Gibbs made. I don't mean to trash Zimmer because I think he's done a good job, but what Williams did to that defense is incredible. Hell, I remember looking at their roster thinking we were going to steamroll over the defense. They had what I thought was one of the worst defensive lines in the NFL.

 

[riggo]

What was Bills record his first season with the Cowboys...What was Gibbs record his first season with the Skins.

I would only guess that is what he meant.

probably. parcells gets credit for going 10-6 his first year, but then regressed his second whereas gibbs is flourishing with a team of players that he brought in- draft picks and FA's. i think right now you'd have to say gibbs has done a great job. if the boys make the playoffs, you could say parcells is going in the right direction.

 

[silver]

ask this question again on Monday. we should have a clearer picture then

 

[Wheat]

I guess this is just a "wait and see" type of thing.

I believe that in 2 years, Gibbs will still be in Washington while the Tuna will either be retired for a 4th time, or looking at his 5th team to be Head Coach of.

If Campbell becomes the man in 06 or 07. Then I'd say that was a savvy move.

The Ramsey and Lavar situations will play out this offseason. But I wouldn't expect Washington to bring in a lot of outside help. Maybe a #2 WR, a DE and some depth at CB. That's about it.

Everybody else is locked up.

I don't know the cap numbers for next year, but with Coles counting like 10 mil on the cap this year, and being all the way off next season. I can't imagine they are way over going into next season.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I agree with that. Greg Williams was maybe the best move Gibbs made. I don't mean to trash Zimmer because I think he's done a good job, but what Williams did to that defense is incredible. Hell, I remember looking at their roster thinking we were going to steamroll over the defense. They had what I thought was one of the worst defensive lines in the NFL.

Yep.

No way could you have told me they would destroy us 35-7....

I am still shaken by what happen that game.

Phillip Daniels only had like 3 sacks that game and I think he doubled it against us.

- Mike G.

 

[Concord]

It's about even.

Although you wouldn't know it by the shelacking the the Commanders just gave us!