Who is the Blocking TE?

xwalker

Well-Known Member
Messages
58,309
Reaction score
66,478
Phillips, John
A good backup to Witten because he is a decent receiver and blocker, but not great at either. He might be the 1st choice if Witten were out of the game, but maybe not the 1st choice as the 2nd TE on gameday.

Hanna, James
Regarded as a receiving type TE. At under 6-4, he is probably better suited to be an off-the-line (move) type of TE than a blocking TE like MartyB was last year.

Bryan, George
He is fairly big, but only 13 reps on the bench?

Szczerba, Andrew
Bigger and stronger than George but even less athletic.

Other options:

Jermey Parnell
Very athletic OT. Played basketball in college which means that he has probably handled a ball more than most Olinemen.

Watching him in training camp and in the preseason games, I wouldn’t be surprised if he was a sub 5.0 forty type. He might be straight up faster and more agile than Szczerba or George. How hard would it be to teach him to run those 2-yard routes that MartyB was running last year?

Kevin Kowalski
Only 6-3ish, but faster and more agile than the UDFA Tight Ends.

Other thoughts:
I never understood why teams would use a DLineman like Josh Brent as a short yardage FB. It seems that an OLineman, especially a quick one like Kowalski, would be more skilled at blocking than a DLineman.

Double click the chart to enlarge:

[URL="http://www.walker-texas.com/2012-cowboys-te.jpg"][/URL]
 
xwalker;4583247 said:
I never understood why teams would use a DLineman like Josh Brent as a short yardage FB. It seems that an OLineman, especially a quick one like Kowalski, would be more skilled at blocking than a DLineman.

I instantly thought of William "The Refrigerator" Perry.
 
xwalker;4583247 said:
Phillips, John

Other thoughts:
I never understood why teams would use a DLineman like Josh Brent as a short yardage FB. It seems that an OLineman, especially a quick one like Kowalski, would be more skilled at blocking than a DLineman.

More like running through people instead of blocking. That fits more of a DLinemans's style. Josh Brent is 320. William Perry was 335. You do the math.
 
Lonestar94;4583338 said:
More like running through people instead of blocking. That fits more of a DLinemans's style. Josh Brent is 320. William Perry was 335. You do the math.

Perry became famous for running with the ball, not for blocking.
 
This appears to be a gap in the current roster, for sure. Hard to imagine that it's something they can't scheme around, however.
 
In the week after the draft, I suggested that Bryan makes the roster (possibly over Hanna). He is a complete TE, knows how to sit in gaps and get open, and how to catch in tight spaces (e.g., he is like Witten in that regard). And he is a willing blocker that has some skill in that regard.

Hanna is unique, but he is not an in-line TE.

Here it was.
 
xwalker;4583247 said:
Other thoughts:
I never understood why teams would use a DLineman like Josh Brent as a short yardage FB. It seems that an OLineman, especially a quick one like Kowalski, would be more skilled at blocking than a DLineman.
<a href="http://www.walker-texas.com/2012-cowboys-te.jpg" target="_blank"><a href="http://www.walker-texas.com/2012-cowboys-te.jpg" target="_blank">http://www.walker-texas.com/2012-cowboys-te.jpg

Good question.

Having watched Brent try to block in goaline situations last season, it was a failed experiment too.
 
According to Broaddus, Hanna can block people when he is on the move. If you ask him to be an inline TE he can't hold up the POA but if you motion him and get him moving he can block his man.

Blocking for TEs is all about understanding leverages and where the play will be going in order to get the proper seal blocks. Witten is a master at this and still has proven this fact year after year.

Hanna has some room to grow in this area but I suspect that he will be used much like Hernandez was used in NE as the F and H back.
 
I have a strange feeling that Marty B won't even make the Giants' roster, and he'll be back with the Cowboys. Just a hunch.
 
I think if things work out well with Vickers we may see less 2 TE sets.
 
Who is the blocking tight end on the Patriots? Who said there needs to be a blocking tight end?
 
Galian Beast;4583928 said:
Who is the blocking tight end on the Patriots? Who said there needs to be a blocking tight end?

In situations where it is short yardage the so called blocking TE can be important but often you just have an OL player check in as eligible and go with the extra blocker
 
Doomsday101;4583930 said:
In situations where it is short yardage the so called blocking TE can be important but often you just have an OL player check in as eligible and go with the extra blocker

Again what do the Patriots do? They have tight ends that rather than block are more often than not going out on routes, thus they draw a defenders attention.

You don't necessarily need a blocking tight end. Especially when you have a fullback for instance.

Just because you do something in the past doesn't mean you need to do it in the future.

Too much emphasis is put on who the 3rd receiver or 2nd tight end is... Honestly it doesn't really matter. What is more important is staying healthy.
 
The Patriots last year used their #3 offensive tackle as the blocking TE in "heavy" situations. Light and Vollmer would play right and left and Nate Solder would check in as an eligible receiver as the big tight end. With Light retiring they signed Daniel Fells as a blocker this year.
 
I suspect the waiver wire may afford us another blocking TE just as it might well prove helpful in eventually acquiring another safety and/or #3 receiver.
 
Galian Beast;4583936 said:
Again what do the Patriots do? They have tight ends that rather than block are more often than not going out on routes, thus they draw a defenders attention.

You don't necessarily need a blocking tight end. Especially when you have a fullback for instance.

Just because you do something in the past doesn't mean you need to do it in the future.

Too much emphasis is put on who the 3rd receiver or 2nd tight end is... Honestly it doesn't really matter. What is more important is staying healthy.

Like many teams they will use different players in different situations. They are not using the same players or formation on every single play or every single situation. There are times down by the goal line teams even the Pats will bring in the extra blocker.
 
Doomsday101;4583906 said:
I think if things work out well with Vickers we may see less 2 TE sets.

Garrett loves the 2 TE set. Most teams prefer that over the old school FB alignment as you get a blocker who also can contribute in the passing game

Vickers is good lead blocker who gives you little in the passing game - that's just not a fit with most modern offenses. he's not going to displace a TE
 

Staff online

Forum statistics

Threads
474,015
Messages
14,506,726
Members
24,207
Latest member
TomGiantsfan
Back
Top