Who is your ideal top picks for the first 4 rds?

[Cowboyny]

I think we will have a lot of different opinions, as this class is extremely top heavy with many prospects having similar grades. Here is my ideal top 4:

1) Kenyon Green G Texas A&M (Still view him as the top Guard who can play in any scheme)
2) Travis Jones DT Ucon(a legitimate NT that greatly improves our run defense)
3) Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin (the anti-Lve who fits perfectly next to Parsons, will he make it here?)
4) Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State (a TE who can actually block)

 

[Aven8]

Well we certainly Telegraph our moves. Everyone in America knows we need Guard help. I haven’t watched enough of Green but is he All Pro, or Pro Bowl? At 24 we need a difference maker

 

[fivetwos]

I think we will have a lot of different opinions, as this class is extremely top heavy with many prospects having similar grades. Here is my ideal top 4:

1) Kenyon Green G Texas A&M (Still view him as the top Guard who can play in any scheme)
2) Travis Jones DT Ucon(a legitimate NT that greatly improves our run defense)
3) Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin (the anti-Lve who fits perfectly next to Parsons, will he make it here?)
4) Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State (a TE who can actually block)

Is Ruckert a blocker first type or a receiver who is also pretty good at blocking?

I do expect to land a TE who can do both reasonably well in the 3rd/4th in this draft.

Who are some others that may fit the bill in your opinion? Figure the top few overall to be gone in round two, as I don't see a 1st round TE mentioned anywhere.

I'm still moaning over last season for the most part and haven't paid a lot of attention beyond round one candidates as of yet.

 

[fivetwos]

Well we certainly Telegraph our moves. Everyone in America knows we need Guard help. I haven’t watched enough of Green but is he All Pro, or Pro Bowl? At 24 we need a difference maker

I see what you mean.

The argument could be made that we improve as an offense, and therefore as a team overall, and that makes the difference.

The offense let us down last year. We couldn't run the ball and our QB didn't do well under pressure last year (when it counted most anyway).

So is Green a difference maker? For us, right now, probably.

I don't at all think he will be there unless some QBs begin to rise out of nowhere so probably very moot.

 

[Aven8]

I see what you mean.

The argument could be made that we improve as an offense, and therefore as a team overall, and that makes the difference.

The offense let us down last year. We couldn't run the ball and our QB didn't do well under pressure last year (when it counted most anyway).

So is Green a difference maker? For us, right now, probably.

I don't at all think he will be there unless some QBs begin to rise out of nowhere so probably very moot.

The Chiefs took Creed Humphrey at Center at pick 63 in the second, and Trey Smith at Guard in the 6th. Both were studs. This team needs to do better scouting of Olineman in the later rounds. The first round is for playmakers IMO unless you can get a OT. Enough of the JG style of Oline picks.

 

[fivetwos]

Well we certainly Telegraph our moves. Everyone in America knows we need Guard help. I haven’t watched enough of Green but is he All Pro, or Pro Bowl? At 24 we need a difference maker

Let me add that.....generally speaking.....

Picking in the mid 20s......you can choose from a lower caliber premium position player and the cream of the crop at lower regarded positions.

I would think Guard is falls into the latter....just a matter of how things are looked upon.

 

[fivetwos]

The Chiefs took Creed Humphrey at Center at pick 63 in the second, and Trey Smith at Guard in the 6th. Both were studs. This team needs to do better scouting of Olineman in the later rounds. The first round is for playmakers IMO unless you can get a OT. Enough of the JG style of Oline picks.

Oh I agree.

Most teams, the winning ones included do not have multiple high picks and/or big contracts along the OL.

It's generally one top 15 pick, two the most....a midrounder or two and a UDFA or two.

We somehow have two guys headed to the HOF and still have OL issues.

This is why Biadasz and McGovern taking serious steps back is such a killer. A 3rd a 4th and a 5th spent by a draft only to find starters team when both need to be gone truly hurts.....and was worth changing OL coaches just to find out if they had something at all....but it's about politics and lahltay instead of winning football....grrrrr sorry. Ranting lol.

Bottom line is drafting Green isn't a remote heaving type of scenario.

Unless the FSU end slips it looks like they'd be reaching at 24 for a DE.

Unless the Georgia DT slips....same.

I'm usually not up for drafting OLB early but Nakobe Dean looks special to me and think Quinn could do some special things with him and MP.

Another that will be long gone though.....

 

[Malhavoc]

Know your team. We ain’t going anywhere with out better OL play. Green would make a ton of sense. He’s a plug in starter that I think is an upgrade to what we had in CW.

 

[fivetwos]

Know your team. We ain’t going anywhere with out better OL play. Green would make a ton of sense. He’s a plug in starter that I think is an upgrade to what we had in CW.

Agreed.

Although I'm not sure it's gonna matter for 2022.

I am fully confident that they must fix the run game in order to have a shot this season.

I'm even more confident that they won't be able to do that with Schultz and Elliott playing the majority of the snaps.

So while a LG upgrade would help, it probably won't make a difference.

I'm very hoping that's fixed for 2023 though. Not all that far fetched, but the FO needs to face certain facts first.

 

[Cowboyny]

Is Ruckert a blocker first type or a receiver who is also pretty good at blocking?

I do expect to land a TE who can do both reasonably well in the 3rd/4th in this draft.

Who are some others that may fit the bill in your opinion? Figure the top few overall to be gone in round two, as I don't see a 1st round TE mentioned anywhere.

I'm still moaning over last season for the most part and haven't paid a lot of attention beyond round one candidates as of yet.

Ruckert and Otton are both considered good at both.

 

[Malhavoc]

Agreed.

Although I'm not sure it's gonna matter for 2022.

I am fully confident that they must fix the run game in order to have a shot this season.

I'm even more confident that they won't be able to do that with Schultz and Elliott playing the majority of the snaps.

So while a LG upgrade would help, it probably won't make a difference.

I'm very hoping that's fixed for 2023 though. Not all that far fetched, but the FO needs to face certain facts first.

There’s going to be a lot of options sitting there at 24. Do you take a WR ? Maybe an edge player ? Maybe Dean or Loyd ? I personally hate drafting and interior OL in round 1, but I think need and value are both there.

 

[fivetwos]

Ruckert and Otton are both considered good at both.

If you get a minute and could list who you like at TE beyond them....that'd be great.

I'm working under the logic that like the 5th/6th ranked ones in this draft may be top 2 in another.

Sort of like WR in 2020.

Or am I off base in that line of thinking?

Appreciate you and thanks....

 

[Cowboyny]

If you get a minute and could list who you like at TE beyond them....that'd be great.

I'm working under the logic that like the 5th/6th ranked ones in this draft may be top 2 in another.

Sort of like WR in 2020.

Or am I off base in that line of thinking?

Appreciate you and thanks....

I think I did a TE breakdown awhile ago. Now, we would like more of an inline guy, but it appears they might prefer more of a hybrid WR/TE type. Such TE's they have been linked to: Likely, Wydermeyer fits that profile. They did visit with Otton who is far more balanced type.

 

[fivetwos]

There’s going to be a lot of options sitting there at 24. Do you take a WR ? Maybe an edge player ? Maybe Dean or Loyd ? I personally hate drafting and interior OL in round 1, but I think need and value are both there.

Yep.

I think I said most of my thoughts on the topic in my posts above.

If you draft a premium position guy in the 20s, unless you hit an exception, you're probably settling for a meh player at that spot....and stuck with him for a little while.

We constantly alternate good seasons with bad. Take your premium guys after the bad years and the opposite.

WR is huge wildcard under that logic. Could go either way.

I dont think they should go WR in the 1st, but I much more so don't think they should fixate on a position, other than eliminating QB (were committed) or RB (ever again at all).

 

[fivetwos]

I think I did a TE breakdown awhile ago. Now, we would like more of an inline guy, but it appears they might prefer more of a hybrid WR/TE type. Such TE's they have been linked to: Likely, Wydermeyer fits that profile. They did visit with Otton who is far more balanced type.

I'm fine if they lean toward downfield skills, but you can't be a complete liability in the run game, and our franchise player 100% is that IMO.

 

[Killerinstinct]

1. Daxton Hill FS
2. Travis Jones 1T
3. Damone Clark LB
4. Tyquan Thornton WR

 

[DFWJC]

Well we certainly Telegraph our moves. Everyone in America knows we need Guard help. I haven’t watched enough of Green but is he All Pro, or Pro Bowl? At 24 we need a difference maker

Yet last year we took a LB and the year before we took a WR because they were BPA

 

[DAL1180]

I think we will have a lot of different opinions, as this class is extremely top heavy with many prospects having similar grades. Here is my ideal top 4:

1) Kenyon Green G Texas A&M (Still view him as the top Guard who can play in any scheme)
2) Travis Jones DT Ucon(a legitimate NT that greatly improves our run defense)
3) Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin (the anti-Lve who fits perfectly next to Parsons, will he make it here?)
4) Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State (a TE who can actually block)

That has been my mock draft several times.

 

[rambo2]

Is Ruckert a blocker first type or a receiver who is also pretty good at blocking?

I do expect to land a TE who can do both reasonably well in the 3rd/4th in this draft.

Who are some others that may fit the bill in your opinion? Figure the top few overall to be gone in round two, as I don't see a 1st round TE mentioned anywhere.

I'm still moaning over last season for the most part and haven't paid a lot of attention beyond round one candidates as of yet.

The tight end that can do it all is Jake Ferguson from Wisconsin. In my opinion he would upgrade the position for the Cowboys and he could be had in the 3rd or 4th round. Outstanding receiver who will stick his nose in there to block as well. There are a lot of videos of him on Youtube.

 

[visionary]

I think we will have a lot of different opinions, as this class is extremely top heavy with many prospects having similar grades. Here is my ideal top 4:

1) Kenyon Green G Texas A&M (Still view him as the top Guard who can play in any scheme)
2) Travis Jones DT Ucon(a legitimate NT that greatly improves our run defense)
3) Leo Chenal LB Wisconsin (the anti-Lve who fits perfectly next to Parsons, will he make it here?)
4) Jeremy Ruckert TE Ohio State (a TE who can actually block)

Perfect 4 picks
All 4 could be starting by next year