Who wants a Dak thread?

[garyo1954]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

 

[America's Cowboy]

Something nobody told you...

It takes a team to win a game, not only a QB.

 

[Rajveer]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

Glad you got that out of the way, now you can R-E-L-A-X

 

[Ranching]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

Do you know chata?

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

turnover differentials hurt your chances more.....turnovers happen. to expect an offense or QB to be without a turnover is just ridiculous. it doesn't happen in the NFL. its how bad you are in giving up the ball. Dak has been pretty good in protecting the ball. the problem has been our defense has been bottom feeders in creating turnovers, and thus the turnover differential. you look at good teams, even those that have worse offensive turnover than the cowboys, their defenses are pretty good in creating turnovers.

and record against winning/losing teams early in the season vs. late in the season is also important. its better to also look at the wins/losses taking into account final records.

 

[garyo1954]

Do you know chata?

Is he a member here? Coach, I got curious and had to know.

 

[garyo1954]

Glad you got that out of the way, now you can R-E-L-A-X

Actually, there is a lot more that needs to be done. Its like a rabbit hole you follow. There is no dead end as long as there is another twist.

Basically, this thread shouldn't exist, except it does to say, "Lighten up on the Dak talk."

 

[CATCH17]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

People in this thread are going to tell you football is a team game but they will also be fine with paying Dak so much that it screws the team.

I don't even need to scroll down to know that is what will be said.

 

[Cowboysheelsreds053]

Music you hear is the Ric Flair music with the 4 horsemen and there manager walking out to talk with Tony Shavoni for NWA, with the crowd going crazy.

 

[garyo1954]

turnover differentials hurt your chances more.....turnovers happen. to expect an offense or QB to be without a turnover is just ridiculous. it doesn't happen in the NFL. its how bad you are in giving up the ball. Dak has been pretty good in protecting the ball. the problem has been our defense has been bottom feeders in creating turnovers, and thus the turnover differential. you look at good teams, even those that have worse offensive turnover than the cowboys, their defenses are pretty good in creating turnovers.

and record against winning/losing teams early in the season vs. late in the season is also important. its better to also look at the wins/losses taking into account final records.

I agree, turnovers happen. True since the first game was played. Will be true when the last one is as well. I would assume without doing 50 Excel sheet, turnovers hurt everyone.

In my case, I was wondering what these writers meant by Dak loses to play-off teams, winning teams, and teams above .500. And is there a reason for those losses?

I see turnovers the probable cause/culprit more likely than "Dak bad."

 

[garyo1954]

People in this thread are going to tell you football is a team game but they will also be fine with paying Dak so much that it screws the team.

I don't even need to scroll down to know that is what will be said.

Yeah, I expect that. And worse. But what I've said isn't as bad as the media made it. And it clarifies what the media was trying to tell us. Overall, it's not as bad as the media was saying it was. And I had nothing better to do......Let 'em moan!

 

[Jake]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, not to mention over 90% of all NFL QBs, have career sub-.500 records vs winning teams.

The ones who don't - Brady and Roethlisberger for example - have had strong defenses to back them for most of their careers.

 

[CowboyFrog]

Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, not to mention over 90% of all NFL QBs, have career sub-.500 records vs winning teams.

The ones who don't - Brady and Roethlisberger for example - have had strong defenses to back them for most of their careers.

WHAT???? winning teams win against good QB's....WHAT????? man thats carzy almost as crazy as wondering why QB's have worse games against good defenses than they do against bad ones....

 

[garyo1954]

Drew Brees and Aaron Rodgers, not to mention over 90% of all NFL QBs, have career sub-.500 records vs winning teams.

The ones who don't - Brady and Roethlisberger for example - have had strong defenses to back them for most of their careers.

I don't know. I'd assume that's true but I didn't look at other QBs. Just ours, the one being ragged for having such bad numbers vs winning teams/play-off teams/teams above .500. And I wondered what exactly do they mean? What is the truth?

So after some research they didn't do themselves, I answered it my way.
Frankly, I don't think it's as bad as the pundits want us to believe.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

I had to start asking myself...Is it true?

Dak has a losing record against teams over .500.
Dak has a losing record vs play-off teams.
Dak has a losing record against winning teams.

I mean, once you read enough Dak articles (and threads) questions appear.

Which is true? Well, he's only been in three play-offs and lost 2. So, if you're a stickler for details that is true. Nitpicking, but true.

But what about a losing record vs teams over .500/winning teams? What does that mean? He loses against teams who finished above .500 or teams who are above .500 when the Cowboys play them? Since most writers and talking heads don't do their own research, often relying on others word, it leaves the question questionable. So there isn't much else to do if you want to know the facts than to dig into the box scores and see for yourself.......

2016, our Miracle on Turf....Cowboys played 8 games vs teams that came into the game above .500.
We won 7 of those games, losing one.

at Packers (3-1) W 30-16
Eagles Home (4-2) W 29-23
Ravens Home (5-4) W 27-17
Commanders Home (6-3-1) W 31-26
at Vikings (6-5) W 17-15
at Giants (8-4) L 10-7
Buccaneers Home (8-5) W 26-20
Lions Home (9-5) W 42-21

We haven't been quite so lucky since.....

2017 we played 6 games of the same nature, winning two.
We lost to the Rams, Packers, Eagles and Seahawks while beating Kansas City and Eagles (2nd Game).

2018 we went 3-2 vs teams who came in with a winning record.
We beat the Jags, Skins, and Saints while losing to the Skins and Colts.

2019 we won one vs the Rams, losing to the Saints, Packers, Vikes, Patriots, and Bills.

Here we are in 2020 and Dak played two such games losing both (Seattle and Cleveland).

In 2016 in 8 games we were 7-1 vs teams who came into the game with a winning record.
Since that time in 19 games we're 6-13.

Here's what nobody is telling you: Going back to 2016 in all but one those loses, Dak had a pick and in some cases multiple picks. The only game vs an above .500 team we lost when Dak didn't have a pick was the 20-17 loss to the Commanders in 2018.

Somebody should write a rule that turnovers hurt your chance of winning games!

Hater...

 

[garyo1954]

Hater...

 

[CowboyRoy]

People in this thread are going to tell you football is a team game but they will also be fine with paying Dak so much that it screws the team.

I don't even need to scroll down to know that is what will be said.

At least were not stupid enough to be saying that Dalton will run the offense better and will lead us to the playoffs this year. Who was the clown that said that? Do you remember?

 

[Corso]

At least were not stupid enough to be saying that Dalton will run the offense better and will lead us to the playoffs this year. Who was the clown that said that? Do you remember?

Can I say? I know!

 

[CowboyRoy]

Can I say? I know!

Yes.........please reveal the poster that said that.

 

[PAPPYDOG]

At least were not stupid enough to be saying that Dalton will run the offense better and will lead us to the playoffs this year. Who was the clown that said that? Do you remember?

The Dak-Mafia fumbled and dropped us to failure!