Who would have won a fight between Cassius Clay and Muhammad Ali..

[Juke99]

I have every one of his fights on DVDs.

The pre layoff Ali was the fastest heavyweight in history...opponents simply couldn't lay a glove on him.

When he came back 3 1/2 years later, he was no where near as quick as he was prior to the layoff but he became a very resourceful fighter and also showed that he could take a punch as well as any fighter in the history of boxing.

So, my question is, who would have won a fight between the prelayoff Ali and the post layoff Ali.

 

[Doomsday101]

I have every one of his fights on DVDs.

The pre layoff Ali was the fastest heavyweight in history...opponents simply couldn't lay a glove on him.

When he came back 3 1/2 years later, he was no where near as quick as he was prior to the layoff but he became a very resourceful fighter and also showed that he could take a punch as well as any fighter in the history of boxing.

So, my question is, who would have won a fight between the prelayoff Ali and the post layoff Ali.

Since Cassius Clay is Ali it would be hard to pick the winner. :laugh2:

 

[Juke99]

Since Cassius Clay is Ali it would be hard to pick the winner. :laugh2:

Don't be a smarty pants, you know what I mean.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Ditka

 

[joseephuss]

Ditka

Oh, no. Now someone is going to reply with Chuck Norris when we all know that The Buehler is the real answer.

Ali would win. He would have figured out a way to beat Clay. He was just so much wiser as he got older.

 

[Juke99]

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Perhaps his best fight prior to the layoff...(second round is when he start to mean business)

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Perhaps his best fight after the layoff (although Manila would be up there as well)

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

Ditka

Would that be the miniature Ditka or the regular size one? If the regular one, then Ditka, no question. If the miniature one, then still probably Ditka but it would be much closer.

 

[ZeroClub]

I have every one of his fights on DVDs.

The pre layoff Ali was the fastest heavyweight in history...opponents simply couldn't lay a glove on him.

When he came back 3 1/2 years later, he was no where near as quick as he was prior to the layoff but he became a very resourceful fighter and also showed that he could take a punch as well as any fighter in the history of boxing.

So, my question is, who would have won a fight between the prelayoff Ali and the post layoff Ali.

Yeah, when I was growing up, I really enjoyed following (the post layoff) Ali.

But if you have all of his fights on DVD, you are certainly better informed than most of the rest of us.

What's your call?

 

[Jon88]

What I want to know is why was he drafted? Can't someone else go? This is the best boxer of all time and you want to send him off to war? Stupid.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

My Ditka kick your ***.

 

[Biggems]

that's like asking who is the better Center, Lew Alcindor or Kareem Abdul-Jabbar

 

[juck]

Ali is a great man.Ali is the best boxer to ever walk. Ali has the most heart.

 

[Hostile]

So, my question is, who would have won a fight between the prelayoff Ali and the post layoff Ali.

The audience and boxing would win. No contest.

 

[SkinsandTerps]

Ali would win. He was more savvy. Clay would give him a run for his money, but Ali would win.

To me it's like pre-tokyo Tyson vs. Post. Pre-Tyson would win more times than not.

Difference is, Ali got smarter and better, Tyson got caught up in his own hype.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

What I want to know is why was he drafted? Can't someone else go? This is the best boxer of all time and you want to send him off to war? Stupid.

I don't know that he was the best of all time. Certainly debatable but that's beside the point. If you have a draft and you get drafted, you get drafted. It's not like they specifically said, we're taking Clay. His number came up. He was not the first Pro Athlete to be called up. Besides, he probably would not have had to serve on the line anyway. He probably would have spent most of his time fighting exibitions or the like.

 

[CanadianCowboysFan]

What I want to know is why was he drafted? Can't someone else go? This is the best boxer of all time and you want to send him off to war? Stupid.

He felt the same way and that is why he didn't go

 

[Rampage]

I think Clay would win. he was a lot more focused and had a lot less distractions going on in his life.

 

[Plankton]

I have every one of his fights on DVDs.

The pre layoff Ali was the fastest heavyweight in history...opponents simply couldn't lay a glove on him.

When he came back 3 1/2 years later, he was no where near as quick as he was prior to the layoff but he became a very resourceful fighter and also showed that he could take a punch as well as any fighter in the history of boxing.

So, my question is, who would have won a fight between the prelayoff Ali and the post layoff Ali.

The 1967 version of Ali.

Too fast, too much stamina, and could punch better than advertised.

The post layoff Ali did show resilience and a great chin (which was his greatest downfall), but he did not have the legs to keep up with his old self.

The Ali fights versus Cleveland Williams and Ernie Terrell were as dominant a performance by a fighter as you will see. Aside from his first win over Liston, the younger Ali did not have a signature win like he did in the second act, with his Frazier/Foreman/Norton victories.

The funny thing is, Ali made pay per view for boxing, which provided a huge financial boon for the sport, but it ultimately killed the sport.