Whom do you nominate as the most impactful Cowboy rookie in history?

The most impactful has to be zeke. That team picked 4th in the draft; they were miserable the year before. Then, they lost Romo in preseason. And then won 13 games with Zeke dominating the league. He was 100% the deserving ROY over Dak.

Dorsett took a really good team to the next level and won the superbowl. Dorsett was the better RB in career, but for that 2016 season zeke dominated like no rookie before or since.
 
You can't even read your own stats right. If it was all downhill from 2016, how do you explain 2023 36td to 9 ints and second in MVP voting?? Where was his so called personal coach Romo 2023???
His best QBr was 2016 77.6
2nd best was 2023 at 73 .4
 
I'm starting to believe you're the new king troll around here are you serious I mean you put up the stats and you're trying to convince us in 2016 was his best year he was rookie of the year but it really should have went to Ezekiel Elliott you know when Prescott actually had a strong run game a decent defense he wins games that's why he's never been part of a losing season when he starts and finishes a season healthy I know it's not a big deal to you..

All downhill from there huh 37 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in 2021 after having his ankle snapped off he's been part of several top three offenses in the league couple of them were number one overall he led the league in 2023 in scoring he should have been the MVP second team all pro second MVP voting literally had his best season debatably in 2023 so you're saying it's all downhill from what 18 months ago I mean I don't get it I mean where are you coming up with this you provided us the stats which I didn't need to see you had a bad year last year because this defense sucked coming out of the gate he had no run game his offensive line sucked coming out of the gate I mean you understand how bad this team started last year and then when the injuries all started it got even worse are you saying the coaching staff was somehow comparable to San Francisco or maybe the Ravens or the eagles that last year that look was Prescott's fault that they look bad like in 2020 and when he got his leg snapped off as well because of the same **** there was nothing going on the offensive line was horrible in that year no run game to speak of a lot of fumbles the defense I mean yeah dude I think somehow you have become the king troll right in front of my eyes just this morning looking at this I don't get it he hasn't been downhill ever since he's made himself a better passer I mean look at 2023 across the board probably his best year given the faculty he had no run game no primary runner offensive line was in shambles at times...

So you're gonna have to explain to me how he's went downhill since his rookie year when he's had multiple great years kinda argue 2023 I mean did you just miss that year I mean are you blaming Prescott for all the playoffs and the 30 years of bad history we've had in big games I mean that's what they did to Tony and now they're doing it to Prescott is insane..
1st of all I’m not blaming Dak for the past 30 years
And you are correct 2023 was a great year for him
I was specifically speaking to QBR rating
Which was 77.6 in 2016 was his best year
You are also correct in stating in regards to a strong run game and a good defense
Once again I believe he is talented, I don’t believe he is elite
 
Whether he made as big of an impact in each playoff game as the Cowboys’ star defenders did is not what I’m arguing.
That is the entire point of the thread though. Who had the biggest impact? It’s nearly impossible for a RB averaging 70 yards a game to have the impact of a pro bowl QB
 
I'm taking this question as not the best Cowboy to be drafted, but the one that made the biggest impact his 1st season. To me this player was so important out of the gate they took the team to a level they wouldn't have gotten to without them.

Lot of great Cowboys on this list and could understand many different arguments for a player. My answer isn't the greatest Cowboy ever but the one that had the greatest impact in year 1. That's Zeke to me, because he totally changed the offense and was key in turning a 4-12 team into a 13-3 team. Yes Dak was the rookie of the year and had a great start to his career, but I don't believe it would be the same if he didn't have a fantastic running game that Zeke brought.
 
I'm taking this question as not the best Cowboy to be drafted, but the one that made the biggest impact his 1st season. To me this player was so important out of the gate they took the team to a level they wouldn't have gotten to without them.

Lot of great Cowboys on this list and could understand many different arguments for a player. My answer isn't the greatest Cowboy ever but the one that had the greatest impact in year 1. That's Zeke to me, because he totally changed the offense and was key in turning a 4-12 team into a 13-3 team. Yes Dak was the rookie of the year and had a great start to his career, but I don't believe it would be the same if he didn't have a fantastic running game that Zeke brought.
like I said, Dak and Zeke fed off each other that season. You really cannot separate them.
 
Lilly’s rookie year he had 5.5 sacks and the team went 4-9-1. Are people confusing the question?

Impact is on a curve, and only 1 player here is the most impactful position. Dallas went from 4-12 in 2015 with a team QBR somewhere in the 30’s and a passer rating around 75 to 13-3 in 2016 behind Dak’s 77 QBR and 105 passer rating. It is not realistically possible for a nonQB to have the same level of impact, and Lilly’s rookie year certainly wasn’t that
Dorsett was a really big part of what put Dallas over the top. Dak did have a big impact on the team, made easier by Zeke, but all we had was a good season.
 
Key play of the game was his fumble at the goal line, recovered by Dave Manders, and given to the Colts by the refs. Still pisses me off to this day.
Morton was the qb too. He was pretty much still recovering from shoulder surgery so his passing left lots to be desired, otherwise he had a cannon for an arm, but not that year.
 
That is the entire point of the thread though. Who had the biggest impact? It’s nearly impossible for a RB averaging 70 yards a game to have the impact of a pro bowl QB

Yeah-the point was which rookie had the most impact for the Cowboys. Dorsett transformed that offense. He scored 12 rushing TD’s on 208 carries in a 14 game season while only getting about 1/3 of the total carries for the team (exceeding the Cowboys’ entire team rushing TD mark from the previous season). The team does not win the SB that year with the same cast as the year prior. He had an excellent playoff run and scored 4 TDs on 51 carries over 3 games.

And Zeke transformed the 2016 offense. And Barkley transformed the Philly 2024 offense. Though his impact on the SB cannot be measured on his personal stats, it’s absurd to say he was not the primary focus of the KC defense (he made it much easier for the QB by simply being on the field). Just like without Christian McCaffrey being the central playmaker for the SF 2024 offense, Brock Purdy looked dreadful. RB’s can absolutely have more impact on teams depending on the offense run and the QB in question.
 
Facts man, facts.

I think many here forget that Landry was an extremely conservative coach. He was brilliant for his time when it came to tactics and formation, but he was also conservative.

The best indicator of the type of coach Landry was came in the way he managed Staubach in his career. He had a QB that was a natural born leader, driven, no quit and felt he could make every play. Their time together featured a cat and mouse game on how much he throttled Roger.

It was the same thing with Dorsett as a rookie. That is why Newhouse got so many carries and had more than 700 yards of rushing in Tony's rookie year. Tom gave his "reliable" players snaps.

I could only imagine what Tom felt when dive or stretch run plays were called and Tony would get double or triple the designated yards on those plays.

As a rookie he made what a very good Dallas offence electric and almost undefenceable. As I have stated before I would notice when TD was put in the game and wonder, "Is this a house call?"

He created the Deion Sanders' punt return type moments in the back field. You held your breath wondering if something great was going to happen.

Good times.
Tom Landry may have looked the part but he was not a conservative play caller. He invented passing from the shotgun. He invented pre-snap motion. His trick plays ran to perfection in most cases.

How conservative are you when you allow your rookie RB to throw a pass? Dorsett completed it for 34 yards, by the way.

Robert Newhouse was the fullback and some carried the ball just as frequently as the HB. The starter before Dorsett was Preston Pearson.

In a year in which Dorsett was the leading rusher with 1007 yards and Newhouse had another 722 yards, Preston Pearson was two catches shy of being the Cowboys leading receiver. This was a receiving corps with Drew Pearson, Golden Richards, Butch Johnson and rookie Tony Hill.

This was a great team, a Cowboys team that was closer to an undefeated season than any other team in the franchise's history

Dorsett didn't start at the beginning of the season because Landry felt you had to earn it by doing the little things as well as the bigger things. Pearson was an excellent blocker and a true double threat as a receiver and I'm not confusing him with Drew, the "original 88."

Every team ran the ball more than they passed. You have to remember that this was before all the "safety" rules like "in the grasp" and "no contact after five yards" were enacted. This is what opened up offenses to passing more. These rules took effect in 1979, Staubach's last season. It was a season in which Staubach led all QB's in passing efficiency

Staubach was a competitor and there were times it was necessary to "reel" him in a bit. It's interesting to note how many people forget that, after leading the Cowboys to the Super Bowl championship in 1971, Staubach missed the entire 1972 regular season because he separated his shoulder trying to run in a score in a preseason game. Yes, a preseason game.

To this day, I remember what I was doing during the play that injured Staubach, I remember the team they were playing, I remember the name of the linebacker that hit him.

Landry used Tony Dorsett masterfully in the 1977 season. He used him in a way that didn't detract from the other players contributions. He used him in a way that was anything but conservative.
 
Look this dude is becoming neutral and I believe he must be one of the guys I have on block he just recreated a new profile and he's trolling back he's one of those DAC trolls I have on block because I don't listen literally saying he's been downhill since 2016 has had several great years he's had a couple of elite years I know he's an elite quarterback but somehow 2023 just like have been lost to this paper bag I think he should have a paper bag over his head because he's trolling on purpose there's no way he provided the stats in that one post that proves he's had several great years probably better as a passer now than he has been in the past and now he's trolling everyone...

It's kinda hard to ignore trolls when they are ignoring facts like an aging offensive line no run game no separation no actual #2 target on the team that's actually like other people's number two targets whether it's a tight end or wide receiver they just don't have the defense a lot of the times and now we're blaming it all on the quarterback once again and I'm still in shock I didn't think it could get worse for the hate that Tony Romo had now the opposite group is came out that Tony Romo lovers which I was one of them are now Dak haters except I'm not..
all of the Dak haters are trolls, ignore them, I believe it's something else
 
Dorsett. I watched it. Super Bowl win and a great rookie 1000 yard year with 13 TDs , when a 1000 yards meant a whole helluva lot. He added a different dimension to the team and they won the Suoerbowl, it can’t get better than that. It’s not even close with anyone else on that list.
 
This is truth.
We were in such need of an explosive runner it was all that was holding us back I will never forget when we drafted him I was sitting in my 70 Z28 Camaro listening to AM radio and when this was announced all I could think of was Roger had what he needed now and we were winning a Super bowl and we did
I was at that 1977 draft in NYC!!
 
Thats fair, and its certainly close. To me if there is any debate I'd give the tie to the QB just for positional impact though.

I mean no argument there, but Daniels rookie years was a top impact of all time. Over the last 30 years or so its tough to think of anyone who would come close as a Dallas rookie. One of those guys during 2016 would have to come the closest, even if they still fall well below Daniels.
Fair enough but the word "clutch" seemed a tad excessive
 

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