Who's our Wagner?

erod

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We need a Wagner.

The NFL determined that Bobby Wagner was within the rules Sunday night when he leaped over the center and blocked a field goal against Arizona. There was a lot of debate in the booth; Collinsworth thought it was illegal because his foot grazed the center. The league says no, that as long as you don't land on players, it's legal.

Wagner did it again in overtime, and Cardinals kicker Catanzaro hit the upright from inside the 10-yard line.

Psychologically, that is a great weapon. It gets in kickers heads, and Catanzaro looked off after Wagner blocked the first one. I would think that would be especially the case on longer kicks when a lower trajectory is needed. Expecting a huge leap right in your line of vision is unsettling.

The Cowboys need to figure out who best could do that on this team. Preferably a non-starter because it's an injury waiting to happen. Who on this team has long arms and a 40-inch vertical?

Likewise, this needs to be looked at from the offensive side. Somebody needs to nail the leaper in mid air before he gets close to the holder. Special teams coordinators on Seattle's schedule no doubt are pouring over this at this very moment.

You're up, Basaccia.
 

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Byron jumped over last season.

He's the best guy physically, but I do not want him doing that.

Damien Wilson? Brice Butler? Kevon Frazier? I hope somebody can that we could actually live with losing on such a play.

(Rico Gathers would be awesome if he could time it, but you don't waste a roster spot just for that.)
 
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Weren't we penalized for illegal alignment or something?

He would be the man to do this.
If they climb someone or land on someone the refs will throw a flag. I think he had one called last year. Cant remember the exact penalty.
 

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Now that it happened it will be a while before it will happen again. Coaches will change up their snaps so it can't be timed. I was super surprised that "almighty" Bruce didn't make any adjustments during the game. All it takes is to change up the snap count and Wagner can't time the leap. Arians is a super overrated coach who is stubborn in his decision making.
 

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Irving has a 7 foot wing span.
Byron Jones has a very good long jump, it was tops at the combine. A record i believe, but not sure what his vertical is.
I am sure once we do this, there will be a flag, then a new complex rule put in place.

All it takes next time for Wagner is someone to reach up and punch him in the nads...he will stop.....:muttley:
 

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Now that it happened it will be a while before it will happen again. Coaches will change up their snaps so it can't be timed. I was super surprised that "almighty" Bruce didn't make any adjustments during the game. All it takes is to change up the snap count and Wagner can't time the leap. Arians is a super overrated coach who is stubborn in his decision making.

Arians is not an overrated coach. Are you kidding me? Give the man a QB that doesn't fold under pressure and he fields a Super Bowl contender every year. He's in the same class as a Kubiak, Carroll. He must move on from Palmer, somehow, someway, after this season, as he's (Arians) getting up there in age and Bidwell and AZ need to take advantage of this awesome coach.

Gtho with that.

You had me until your Arians' dig, bruh
 
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Arians is not an overrated coach. Are you kidding me? Give the man a QB that doesn't fold under pressure and he has a Super Bowl contender every year.

Gtho with that.

You had me until your Arians' dig, bruh

Right, Arians has done what a butt load of other coaches could not do. Make them a winner for quite a few seasons, not just a few winning seasons here and there.
I look for them to get on a roll and give Seattle a fight for the division.
 

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Arians is not an overrated coach. Are you kidding me? Give the man a QB that doesn't fold under pressure and he fields a Super Bowl contender every year. He's in the same class as a Kubiak, Carroll. He must move on from Palmer, somehow, someway, after this season, as he's (Arians) getting up there in age and Bidwell and AZ need to take advantage of this awesome coach.

Gtho with that.

You had me until your Arians' dig, bruh

Once you take away his game plan (the deep ball) he is done. He got fired in Pittsburgh for a legit reason. Can't adjust and was getting Big Ben killed. Palmer is feeling the full effect of Arians offense. If Wilson wasn't injured the Seahawks would have rolled Arizona on Sunday night. That high powered offense produced 6 points vs a defense missing Chancellor
 

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Once you take away his game plan (the deep ball) he is done. He got fired in Pittsburgh for a legit reason. Can't adjust and was getting Big Ben killed. Palmer is feeling the full effect of Arians offense. If Wilson wasn't injured the Seahawks would have rolled Arizona on Sunday night. That high powered offense produced 6 points vs a defense missing Chancellor

Well that's certainly a good counter point. But Ben continues to get killed, so they're finding out it wasn't Arians, it might actually be Tomlin <gasp, speaking of overrated>

Palmer is feeling the effect of aging. Yes, Arians is a risk taker, but he's a dynamic coach that keeps the opposition constantly on their heels. He propped up Luck like no other, a healthy durable QB, the only one he's ever had.

The Seahawks would have won on Sunday with a healthy Wilson because the Seahawks have Carroll (an equally superior coach) and a better squad. And a healthy Wilson is elite, Palmer, now, not so much.

We'll just have to agree to disagree, bubba.
 

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Once you take away his game plan (the deep ball) he is done. He got fired in Pittsburgh for a legit reason. Can't adjust and was getting Big Ben killed. Palmer is feeling the full effect of Arians offense. If Wilson wasn't injured the Seahawks would have rolled Arizona on Sunday night. That high powered offense produced 6 points vs a defense missing Chancellor
Seriously, they have David freaking Johnson and still doesn't run the offense through him.
 
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