Why 2019 could be a win-win season

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It’s very rare to go into a season thinking that it could be a success whether we win or lose. But maybe the 2019 season is just that. Of course with Jerry sailing this yacht, you never know, but here’s why 2019 could be a “win-win” season, and it all hinges on Jason Garrett’s performance:
  • If the team makes the playoffs and accomplishes what no Cowboys team has in 23 seasons- win at least an NFC championship game, obviously we will have made major progress. Going on a deep playoff run hasn’t happened around here since Troy was throwing passes to Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek.
  • If the team has a losing season and fails to make the playoffs for the 6th time in 9 seasons, it is likely that Jason Garrett’s tenure as HC will finally be over. IMO, it should have been over at the end of 2017- or even after the Atlanta game that year. A new head coach- maybe one with some authority starts a new era.
The way this offseason has unfolded, it seems as if the FO has set up 2019 to be “Jason Garrett’s Last Stand”. No contract extension was tendered last year by Daddy Jones, so it’s Win now, or go home. Look at the signs:
  • The number of one year player contracts. Jason Witten, Robert Quinn, Tavon Austin, to name a few.
  • Hiring an OC with only one year of NFL coaching experience. Maybe Kellen Moore is a boy genius. But most NFL organizations would consider this move an unnecessary risk. Unless the org realized no well respected OC would come here to work with a HC with only one year left on his contract.
Of course with Jerry, logic is not always the key factor. I could be dead wrong and Garrett somehow survives after another non-playoff 8-8 year where Jerry rolls out the excuse machine and says that “if ____ had not been hurt”, or “we’re just a player away” or some other franchise crippling excuse this owner has made a habit of throwing out instead of accountability.

Hopefully, 2019 includes a deep playoff run with at least an NFC championship, maybe even a SB win. In my book if this team accomplishes anything less, we should get a new HC.

To me, that’s a “win-win” scenario. How do you see it?
 
I totally get your point, and getting rid of Garrett would be a win in my book. But, if we have a 9-7 or 8-8 season and miss the playoffs it will technically be a loss.

Here is to hoping that we win a superbowl, and JJ realizes we did it despite Garrett and still gets rid of him!
 
It’s very rare to go into a season thinking that it could be a success whether we win or lose. But maybe the 2019 season is just that. Of course with Jerry sailing this yacht, you never know, but here’s why 2019 could be a “win-win” season, and it all hinges on Jason Garrett’s performance:
  • If the team makes the playoffs and accomplishes what no Cowboys team has in 23 seasons- win at least an NFC championship game, obviously we will have made major progress. Going on a deep playoff run hasn’t happened around here since Troy was throwing passes to Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek.
  • If the team has a losing season and fails to make the playoffs for the 6th time in 9 seasons, it is likely that Jason Garrett’s tenure as HC will finally be over. IMO, it should have been over at the end of 2017- or even after the Atlanta game that year. A new head coach- maybe one with some authority starts a new era.
The way this offseason has unfolded, it seems as if the FO has set up 2019 to be “Jason Garrett’s Last Stand”. No contract extension was tendered last year by Daddy Jones, so it’s Win now, or go home. Look at the signs:
  • The number of one year player contracts. Jason Witten, Robert Quinn, Tavon Austin, to name a few.
  • Hiring an OC with only one year of NFL coaching experience. Maybe Kellen Moore is a boy genius. But most NFL organizations would consider this move an unnecessary risk. Unless the org realized no well respected OC would come here to work with a HC with only one year left on his contract.
Of course with Jerry, logic is not always the key factor. I could be dead wrong and Garrett somehow survives after another non-playoff 8-8 year where Jerry rolls out the excuse machine and says that “if ____ had not been hurt”, or “we’re just a player away” or some other franchise crippling excuse this owner has made a habit of throwing out instead of accountability.

Hopefully, 2019 includes a deep playoff run with at least an NFC championship, maybe even a SB win. In my book if this team accomplishes anything less, we should get a new HC.

To me, that’s a “win-win” scenario. How do you see it?

I have to say that I agree, even Jerry Jones' patience with Jason Garrett has worn itself out. It's win or lose your job this season. And to be honest, I don't think there will be any excuses if he doesn't. Jones himself knows he can't sell this regime any longer, no matter what should haplen on the injury front. He's already played that card in 2015, nobody will buy it again.

And I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm no Garrett fan and would rather see him move on, but even I would admit that if he makes it further and should win enough to get to the NFC Championship Game, he will have earned an extension. And if he doesn't, he shouldn't get an extension. I don't think you can make things any fairer than that.

And like you, I feel that no matter how the season goes, I win.
 
Funny thing is “failing to make the playoffs in 6 of 9 years” and “making the playoffs 3 of the last 5 years” are exactly the same team just spun differently...

The question is do we look at this team as the team that is on the upswing having gone to the playoffs 3 times with 2 wins in the last 5 years or the one that has missed the playoffs 6 times in the last 9?


I personally think a losing season is a loss no matter what...
 
I have to say that I agree, even Jerry Jones' patience with Jason Garrett has worn itself out. It's win or lose your job this season. And to be honest, I don't think there will be any excuses if he doesn't. Jones himself knows he can't sell this regime any longer, no matter what should haplen on the injury front. He's already played that card in 2015, nobody will buy it again.

And I wouldn't want it any other way. I'm no Garrett fan and would rather see him move on, but even I would admit that if he makes it further and should win enough to get to the NFC Championship Game, he will have earned an extension. And if he doesn't, he shouldn't get an extension. I don't think you can make things any fairer than that.

And like you, I feel that no matter how the season goes, I win.
I mostly agree witcha here Stas except regarding Jerry thinking he couldn’t sell this regime any longer. I think JJ is arrogant enough to believe he can sell anything.

Besides, if Garrett is back after a bad season in 2019, how many Cowboys fans will still drink the kool-aid? I’m afraid there are too many.
 
Yes. After the Atlanta game he should’ve been gone. I’m not sure how even Jason’s mom could’ve defended that debacle. That was the antithesis of coaching.

I mean what does he do well? Some might say organize and deal with Jerry. I’ll take my chances that that is much less a factor than football strategy.


At the Very least he should’ve been gone at the end of that year.
 
I mostly agree witcha here Stas except regarding Jerry thinking he couldn’t sell this regime any longer. I think JJ is arrogant enough to believe he can sell anything.

Besides, if Garrett is back after a bad season in 2019, how many Cowboys fans will still drink the kool-aid? I’m afraid there are too many.

More food for thought. Jerry is seeing his own mortality each and every day. It's well-documented that Texans owner Bob McNair's death really affected Jerry. He knows he doesn't have all that many years left. And that's a key factor in his patience with Garrett running out.

He's given this guy more than enough chances and everything he's needed to succeed. By this point, if he fails, you know it's HIM.
 
I totally get your point, and getting rid of Garrett would be a win in my book. But, if we have a 9-7 or 8-8 season and miss the playoffs it will technically be a loss.

Here is to hoping that we win a superbowl, and JJ realizes we did it despite Garrett and still gets rid of him!
I agree. And to add to your point. If we dont have a playoff appearance, it's best if we lose big, and have a 4-12 season so we can draft high in the 2020 draft.
 
This is one of those ‘getting comfortable with mediocrity’ threads I keep hearing so much about, isn’t it?
 
It’s very rare to go into a season thinking that it could be a success whether we win or lose. But maybe the 2019 season is just that. Of course with Jerry sailing this yacht, you never know, but here’s why 2019 could be a “win-win” season, and it all hinges on Jason Garrett’s performance:
  • If the team makes the playoffs and accomplishes what no Cowboys team has in 23 seasons- win at least an NFC championship game, obviously we will have made major progress. Going on a deep playoff run hasn’t happened around here since Troy was throwing passes to Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek.
  • If the team has a losing season and fails to make the playoffs for the 6th time in 9 seasons, it is likely that Jason Garrett’s tenure as HC will finally be over. IMO, it should have been over at the end of 2017- or even after the Atlanta game that year. A new head coach- maybe one with some authority starts a new era.
The way this offseason has unfolded, it seems as if the FO has set up 2019 to be “Jason Garrett’s Last Stand”. No contract extension was tendered last year by Daddy Jones, so it’s Win now, or go home. Look at the signs:
  • The number of one year player contracts. Jason Witten, Robert Quinn, Tavon Austin, to name a few.
  • Hiring an OC with only one year of NFL coaching experience. Maybe Kellen Moore is a boy genius. But most NFL organizations would consider this move an unnecessary risk. Unless the org realized no well respected OC would come here to work with a HC with only one year left on his contract.
Of course with Jerry, logic is not always the key factor. I could be dead wrong and Garrett somehow survives after another non-playoff 8-8 year where Jerry rolls out the excuse machine and says that “if ____ had not been hurt”, or “we’re just a player away” or some other franchise crippling excuse this owner has made a habit of throwing out instead of accountability.

Hopefully, 2019 includes a deep playoff run with at least an NFC championship, maybe even a SB win. In my book if this team accomplishes anything less, we should get a new HC.

To me, that’s a “win-win” scenario. How do you see it?

IT'S THE CLEATS BOB, THE CLEATS...best fall on ur *** excuse to EVER come down from the Jone's skybox palace.
 
More food for thought. Jerry is seeing his own mortality each and every day. It's well-documented that Texans owner Bob McNair's death really affected Jerry. He knows he doesn't have all that many years left. And that's a key factor in his patience with Garrett running out.

He's given this guy more than enough chances and everything he's needed to succeed. By this point, if he fails, you know it's HIM.
Hell's bell's stash, all JJ had to do was come here and READ our post on the clapping carrot. I mean truly, who knows mediocrity better then this crowd hea?
 
Anyone who has carefully considered the history of Jerry/Garrett understands that JG holds a special place in JJ’s football world.

From backing up Troy Aikman to being hired as OC/HC-in-waiting before his predecessor signed on as head coach, JG has firmly entrenched himself in the Cowboys’ family. And as history has shown, Jerry will go out of his way not to blame JG directly for any team failings.

To cut to the chase, Jerry isn’t gonna scapegoat Garrett because Jones himself decided to roll the dice on Kellen Moore, while also keeping Rod Marinelli, the most predictable DC in the league, past his expiration date.

Moore is obviously being groomed as the next OC/HC-in-waiting and the only thing to be determined is how long JG’s next extension will be, as Jerry & Stephen try to gauge when Moore might be ready to take over as HC, with Jason then moving into some FO position.

Unless and until he publicly steps down as GM and turns the team over to son Stephen, soon-to-be 77yo Jerry Jones is not likely to clean house and start from scratch with a new HC and new coaching philosophy/staff. Meanwhile, no top-shelf head coach worth his clipboard is gonna agree to base his career on being successful with a team where the team owner handpicks his coaching staff for him, as Garrett has done.

Unless we get lucky, 2019 could just as easily be a lose-lose season as a win-win one.
 
I totally get your point, and getting rid of Garrett would be a win in my book. But, if we have a 9-7 or 8-8 season and miss the playoffs it will technically be a loss.

Here is to hoping that we win a superbowl, and JJ realizes we did it despite Garrett and still gets rid of him!
Yeah that’s a loss and if they go 8 or 9 wins I’d rebuild and start over.
 
Jerry wants to win the SB and wanted to do it his way without Jimmy. But now I think he just wants to Wim it, even if he has to give up some control. He has been slowly doing this over the past 4 or 5 years, or whenever he brought in McClay to be more in charge of player personnel and the draft.
Ste[hen has taken away or taken over some of Jerry's powers also.

But we all know this. But sometimes listening to Stephen is like hearing Jerry at times. I do think they quietly have had a decent off season.
But the best move was not to extend Garrett. I go along with many on here, it can be a win win as either we go to the NFCCG or SB or get a new coach.

But what if we do that and don't get a new coach, he is extended, then we slump back down.
I hope we win it all, then Garrett retires, or moves up to the FO in some capacity and then maybe Richard becomes the new HC as to keep a winning staff together.

Just way too many things that can and will happen, so I just want a winning season regardless. Deal with the changes or non changes after. Because as a fan we can't control any of that, just need to live with it, and root for wins. Just as I did in the 3-13 and 1-15 seasons.
Well, the 3-13 season, the last few games I did want them to lose to be able to get Aikman in the draft. But the 1-15, I still wanted them to win.
 
I'm encouraged that at least it finally occurred to them that Linehan is terrible. Two years too late, but better late than never.
Well in their defense last I read Garrett wanted him gone two years ago. Why it didn’t happen is the question.
 
Stephen said after last season this a young team and they have to take the next step with all the one year contracts and garrett not being extended if his team misses the playoffs he can start packing and call the moving truck its pretty simple really either win or be gone
 
It’s very rare to go into a season thinking that it could be a success whether we win or lose. But maybe the 2019 season is just that. Of course with Jerry sailing this yacht, you never know, but here’s why 2019 could be a “win-win” season, and it all hinges on Jason Garrett’s performance:
  • If the team makes the playoffs and accomplishes what no Cowboys team has in 23 seasons- win at least an NFC championship game, obviously we will have made major progress. Going on a deep playoff run hasn’t happened around here since Troy was throwing passes to Michael Irvin and Jay Novacek.
  • If the team has a losing season and fails to make the playoffs for the 6th time in 9 seasons, it is likely that Jason Garrett’s tenure as HC will finally be over. IMO, it should have been over at the end of 2017- or even after the Atlanta game that year. A new head coach- maybe one with some authority starts a new era.
The way this offseason has unfolded, it seems as if the FO has set up 2019 to be “Jason Garrett’s Last Stand”. No contract extension was tendered last year by Daddy Jones, so it’s Win now, or go home. Look at the signs:
  • The number of one year player contracts. Jason Witten, Robert Quinn, Tavon Austin, to name a few.
  • Hiring an OC with only one year of NFL coaching experience. Maybe Kellen Moore is a boy genius. But most NFL organizations would consider this move an unnecessary risk. Unless the org realized no well respected OC would come here to work with a HC with only one year left on his contract.
Of course with Jerry, logic is not always the key factor. I could be dead wrong and Garrett somehow survives after another non-playoff 8-8 year where Jerry rolls out the excuse machine and says that “if ____ had not been hurt”, or “we’re just a player away” or some other franchise crippling excuse this owner has made a habit of throwing out instead of accountability.

Hopefully, 2019 includes a deep playoff run with at least an NFC championship, maybe even a SB win. In my book if this team accomplishes anything less, we should get a new HC.

To me, that’s a “win-win” scenario. How do you see it?
Why after all of these years do you believe Jerry will suddenly stand back , hire a legit HC and not meddle?

I’d love to think so but I’ll need more than just a hunch he’s ready to give up proving he’s the football guy that didn’t get credit with Jimmy.
 

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