Why being vanilla can hurt you

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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.
 

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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.

They tried with it with Carr and it didn't go well.

The year before they tried to do it with with Nnamdi and were outbid. Thank god -- that would have been an unmitigated disaster.

Their track-record is VERY mixed.
 
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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.

All 3 losses are primarily due to bad outings by the offense. The defense has been good enough to win any of the games this season.

They acquired Melton and Rolando McClain this year.
 

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they don't dip into the talent pool because they can't. no cap space.

frankly, its a disaster
 

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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.

Defense isn't our problem. In fact, I think it has become a strength of this team. We are doing this without highly paid stars on defense. I think defense should be where we will spend some of our money after this season. You can't fix everything just like that.
 

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I'm guessing that 2015 our defense will be greatly improved. Couple more starters or rotational guys from next draft + Lee, Lawrence etc. next yr I think we can make a run at it.
 

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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.

Cap space is obvious reason but you cannot continue to sign multiple high price FA year after year. The way NFL is structured prohibits that. We did a few years of highs price FAs and now we are paying the price.
Still the way to built a team is via DRAFT as always.
The way the front office has done by signing Melton and McClain (two McClaines in fact) are the way to go. All three have contributed signficantly and this D would have been considerably worse without these three given the injuries we have suffered.
 

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Sure wish they would have done a better job getting a backup QB......rather than this guy....We know now that Tony is not going to be Ironman out there. He will always be one good hit out for several weeks at least, and if I was on defense that would be my goal.
 

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This defense needs to blitz. Blitz hard and often. We don't have the talent to just rush the passer.
 

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Our defense is below average and statistically as bad as it was last year. The fact that we never dip our toes into quality Free agent defensive players is starting to really handicap it. Take a look at the New England Patriots off-season acquisitions, Brandon Browner, Darrelle Revis, and Patrick Chung. Those signings have completely revamped that defense.

Whens the last time the Cowboys have signed 2+ Defenders that can contribute immediately? Im not talking about the signings they usually do as in signing other teams trash players, hoping they can just magically reform themselves in a new area code. Gets the gears churning in the head doesn't it...?

Don't get me wrong, I think the Henry Melton signing was good and a need. But if they actually go out in this next off-season and sign some legit starters and use a 1st or 2nd on this Defense it can be totally retooled and ready to compete in the Top echelon of Defenses.

Did anyone else lol when they saw the name Patrick Chung?
 

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they don't dip into the talent pool because they can't. no cap space.

frankly, its a disaster

Wrong. They could have made cap space if they needed to do it, but they were being prudent and not overspending in a year where they had a low probability of being contenders.
 

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Wrong. They could have made cap space if they needed to do it, but they were being prudent and not overspending in a year where they had a low probability of being contenders.

In today's NFL, I think being prudent is the way to go. Too many guys want big contracts and end up packing it in as soon as they get paid. It's damaging if they don't pan out.
 

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If you look over time, most big money FA's don't live up to their contracts. Yes, Revis and Browner have definitely helped NE's defense, but every Revis, you get a bunch of Nhamdi's, Carr's and Haynesworth's. We've gone the big money route before, and haven't reaped the rewards.
 
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