Why can't we just lose like a normal team

[CATCH17]

We don't just lose. We do something crazy to lose almost everytime.

Giving up 2 extremely long runs to lose last night.

Dominating in Pittsburgh and giving it away at the end.

Cardinals game we make a remarkable comeback only to lose on a blocked punt.

And its been going on for awhile.

We can't just lose we have to lose in a way that makes you sick.

 

[MrMom]

That's something we're good for. Inventing ways to lose memorably. Back-to-back 80 yard runs? Come on.

 

[Sarge]

Lack of focus.

 

[CATCH17]

I want to blame Hamlin for that loss last night.

Not recovering that gimme fumble was 1.

But he was the safety valve on both of those long runs and just got trucked twice.

 

[Rampage]

we keep setting all the wrong records.

1st #1 seed to be 1 and done

1st team to lose in overtime on a blocked punt

1st team to give up 2 75+ yard runs in back to back plays.

 

[Pokes12]

I want to blame Hamlin for that loss last night.

Not recovering that gimme fumble was 1.

But he was the safety valve on both of those long runs and just got trucked twice.

Friday, October 27, 2006

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Cyclone Hart and Vito Antuofermo
I just read a great article about Bill Parcells, written by Michael Lewis. He talks a lot about a fight between two boxers: Cyclone Hart and Vito Antuofermo.

[cyclone] [xpantuofermov]

I was hoping the story was written up in a book, but apparently, it's verbal lore. Here's an excerpt from that link.


Cyclone Hart was a powerful puncher who fought as a middleweight out of Philadelphia about 25 years ago. He was as dangerous a one-punch knockout artist as there was in boxing, but he was at times weak mentally. One night he fought a little-known guy named Vito Antuofermo, who would later become middleweight champion. Antuofermo had little power and no physical attributes to brag about except he bled well. But he had other attributes you couldn't see.

The night they fought, Hart staggered Antuofermo in the first round and commenced to beat on and break his ribs. For four rounds Hart dominated, but Antuofermo kept absorbing the blows and fighting back. By the fifth round, Hart began to slow down. He was wavering. Not physically but mentally.

Quickly after that, Vito hit him with a series of punches, and the last one was a left hand that clearly hit Hart on the shoulder but he went down in a heap. The fight was over. Vito went from dire straits to a win.

When the fighters went back to their makeshift locker rooms, only a thin curtain was between them. Hart's room was quiet, but on the other side he could hear Antuofermo's cornermen talking about who would take the fighter to the hospital. Finally he heard Antuofermo say, "Every time he hit me with that left hook to the body, I was sure I was going to quit. After the second round, I thought if he hit me there again, I'd quit. I thought the same thing after the fourth round. Then he didn't hit me no more."

At that moment, Hart began to weep.

It was really soft at first, then harder. He was crying because for the first time he understood that Vito felt the same way he had and worse. The only thing that separated the guy talking from the guy crying was what they did. The coward and the hero feel the same emotions. They're both human.

 

[dbair1967]

Thats what poorly coached teams/bad teams do, find ways to lose.

It's just pathetic, but I am of the opinion that two players basically lost the game for us last night. Hamlin and Romo.

 

[SDogo]

The Cowboys are anything but a normal franchise so I guess it fits

 

[CATCH17]

Thats what poorly coached teams/bad teams do, find ways to lose.

It's just pathetic, but I am of the opinion that two players basically lost the game for us last night. Hamlin and Romo.

So we were poorly coached under Parcells too?

I watched Dallas do these same thing under one of the greatest coaches of all time.

BP drilled these guys on this very thing and they still went out and did it.

Blame coaching all you want. Its just a dumb football team. You're going to get that with who ever you bring in with this group of PLAYERS.

 

[dbair1967]

So we were poorly coached under Parcells too?

I think that was obvious.

I watched Dallas do these same thing under one of the greatest coaches of all time.

Like I said above...

Blame coaching all you want. Its just a dumb football team. You're going to get that with who ever you bring in with this group of PLAYERS.

oh dont get me wrong, there are alot of issues with the players too

 

[Juke99]

Thats what poorly coached teams/bad teams do, find ways to lose.

It's just pathetic, but I am of the opinion that two players basically lost the game for us last night. Hamlin and Romo.

On the nosey.

I have read all of the threads this morning...people stating their opinions on what's wrong...etc.

Losers lose. It's that simple. This team, for years, simply finds a way to lose.

Hamlin doesn't pick up that fumble.

Witten slips on his pass route vs the Steelers.

Romo botches the FG snap vs the Seahawks.

We could fill a page with examples like this...and use a different player for each example.

Losers lose.

 

[newlander]

Sarge is right: no focus, no discipline, and in the end: no heart.

 

[Kaika]

If you've been a Cowboys fan for a long while you should be used to this.

I can't remember the last time I thought we were in control of a game without the doubt of some sort of debacle entering my mind. And I'm talking about our Super Bowl Years as well.


We do things in a big way , even finding a way of screwing good things up.

 

[WG5516]

It's great! We go out with style. Like Jerruh says, "we're the number one team in football."

 

[cowboyz]

because tony romo keeps them in the game

 

[lewpac]

Thats what poorly coached teams/bad teams do, find ways to lose.

It's just pathetic, but I am of the opinion that two players basically lost the game for us last night. Hamlin and Romo.

I know that THIS ain't going to go over nicely. But do you want to know the play that REALLY cost us the game last night.
We were up 7-0 in the first quarter, and had them 3rd and 4 on their own 30-something. DeMarcus Ware jumped WAY OFFSIDE to give them the first down. At that point, I looked at my buddy and said "it's gonna cost us the game".
Laughing yet? Pay attention: Momentum and the flow of the game means a ton. At that point, like halfway through the first quarter, their first offensive possession resulted in the Ware-Flaco-Ellis fumble on their own 5 and the Choice TD. We had them stopped and stuffed, looking like a for-sure punt and us getting the ball back around our own 35. But just like that, first down Ravens, and they went on to score 3.
Like in a long season, no one wants to talk about why we're even in this position. We're in this position because of un-godly loss's to the Rams, Skins and the Cardinals way back when. And in games also, no one remembers WHY we're in this position with five minutes left in the 4th. You gotta' look at the whole game, way back to the first quarter sometimes, and consider that we coulda' been up 14-0 early, demoralizing a team playing on the road.
I love DeMarcus and all. He brings alot more to the table, BY FAR, than not. But THAT play just killed us last night.

 

[THUMPER]

We don't just lose. We do something crazy to lose almost everytime.

Giving up 2 extremely long runs to lose last night.

Dominating in Pittsburgh and giving it away at the end.

Cardinals game we make a remarkable comeback only to lose on a blocked punt.

And its been going on for awhile.

We can't just lose we have to lose in a way that makes you sick.

You are exactly right. If we just got beat, like against the Giants the first time this year, OK we got beat, but to lose like this was just agonizing! If it were the only time I could chalk it up to chance but it happens way too often to simply be random events.

:bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2: :bang2:

 

[gmb85]

because tony romo keeps them in the game

You mean the Cowboys or the other team? Oh wait, it's probably both.

 

[dbair1967]

I know that THIS ain't going to go over nicely. But do you want to know the play that REALLY cost us the game last night.
We were up 7-0 in the first quarter, and had them 3rd and 4 on their own 30-something. DeMarcus Ware jumped WAY OFFSIDE to give them the first down. At that point, I looked at my buddy and said "it's gonna cost us the game".
Laughing yet? Pay attention: Momentum and the flow of the game means a ton. At that point, like halfway through the first quarter, their first offensive possession resulted in the Ware-Flaco-Ellis fumble on their own 5 and the Choice TD. We had them stopped and stuffed, looking like a for-sure punt and us getting the ball back around our own 35. But just like that, first down Ravens, and they went on to score 3.
Like in a long season, no one wants to talk about why we're even in this position. We're in this position because of un-godly loss's to the Rams, Skins and the Cardinals way back when. And in games also, no one remembers WHY we're in this position with five minutes left in the 4th. You gotta' look at the whole game, way back to the first quarter sometimes, and consider that we coulda' been up 14-0 early, demoralizing a team playing on the road.
I love DeMarcus and all. He brings alot more to the table, BY FAR, than not. But THAT play just killed us last night.

That play had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Sorry, couldnt disagree with you more.

I want him being aggressive and getting great jumps, I can live with the occassional offsides.

We had plenty of chances to win the game but couldnt. Offense, defense, special teams, coaching. They all contributed to that laughingstock effort.

 

[lewpac]

That play had absolutely nothing to do with the outcome of the game. Sorry, couldnt disagree with you more.

I want him being aggressive and getting great jumps, I can live with the occassional offsides.

We had plenty of chances to win the game but couldnt. Offense, defense, special teams, coaching. They all contributed to that laughingstock effort.

I'm not saying he's Flozell or Guroude, making constant mental mistakes like they're rookies in their first pre-season game.
He's the best player on this team, probably the best defender in all the NFL. I hope he plays his entire career in Dallas. He's on of the few dependable guys on team infected with many "undependables".
In fact, the play I just described is the only mistake I'm aWARE of all year.
Never the less, you saying that it had "absolutely nothing to do with losing last night" is mind boggling. It had as much to do with that game getting away from us as any other bad play during the game. IMO, even bigger than most. It had EVERYTHING to do with the flow of the game early, and a momentum shifter.
You just can't bring yourself to believe that Ware, however dynamic and over the top he is, he's only human and will make a mistake or two during his career. THAT PLAY was HUGE DUDE!!!!!