Why Dak Prescott is the NFL's MVP

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ESPN’s MVP Poll debuted Wednesday, with Derek Carr holding the top spot, followed closely by Matt Ryan, Tom Brady and Ezekiel Elliott.

Coming in at No. 5 without a first-place vote is the quarterback of the NFL’s best team, Dak Prescott. Yes, Prescott benefits from Elliott and Dallas’ offensive line, but the case can be made that no player has added more total value this season than the Dallas Cowboys’ signal-caller.

Prescott’s MVP case

Let’s begin with the obvious. After Tony Romo went down in the preseason, it looked like another lost season for the Cowboys. As a fourth-round pick, rookie Prescott stepped in seamlessly and has led the Cowboys to an NFL-best 10-1 record, including a single-season franchise-record 10 straight wins heading into Thursday’s matchup with Minnesota.

Although Prescott’s teammates deserve credit for Dallas’ turnaround (more on that later), few quarterbacks have been as efficient and productive as Prescott this season. He leads the NFL in Total QBR, which is now adjusted for opponents faced, and has gained positive expected points added on the second-highest percentage of his plays among NFL QBs.

Prescott’s ability to avoid negative plays (five turnovers, 15 sacks) sets him apart from other quarterbacks, but he isn’t simply a game manager. He makes plays when it matters, ranking third in QBR on third down and leading the league in QBR in the fourth quarter or overtime.

In fact, on his past 11 drives in the fourth quarter or overtime, Prescott has completed 30 of 33 passes for 325 yards and two touchdowns. He also ran for a touchdown in the fourth quarter against the Washington Commanders. Those completions weren’t coming in blowouts, either, with 29 of the 33 passes coming in one-score games against the Eagles, Steelers, Ravens and Commanders.

Clearly Prescott has been clutch, but how can we measure his total value and compare it to that of others around the league?

Measuring Prescott’s total value

Many will point to Total QBR as an all-encompassing barometer of quarterback success. Total QBR has value, but because it is expressed on a per-play basis, it is not the best measure of a quarterback’s total impact.

There is another metric, however, that might be an even better gauge of a quarterback’s value to his team. QB points added accounts for both efficiency and usage. The number associated with this statistic represents the number of points on the field a quarterback contributes over the course of the season, beyond what would be expected of an average quarterback (one with a QBR of 50) with the same number of plays.

It makes sense that a quarterback who both is efficient and has a high usage rate would receive greater consideration for the NFL MVP award, and such quarterbacks have! Seven of the past eight quarterbacks to win MVP ranked in the top two in that statistic in their award-winning seasons.

How do the 2016 NFL MVP candidates stack up?

Not only does Prescott lead the league in QB points added by more than eight points this season, but he is also on pace to post numbers comparable to some of the best seasons in NFL history.

Aaron Rodgers in 2011 (who both started 11-0) added more QB points through 11 games than Prescott has.

What about his teammates?

The clear counterargument to Prescott’s MVP candidacy is that he benefits the Cowboys having the best running back, top offensive line and one of the most explosive wide receivers in the NFL. While that is a valid point, Prescott has been the main catalyst for the league’s most efficient offense.

Elliott deserves credit for his MVP-caliber rookie campaign, but it’s a passing league, and even the most efficient rushing offenses have about one-third the impact of the top passing offenses. Elliott also makes an impact in the passing game, but Prescott, who ranks fourth among quarterbacks in rushing EPA, similarly contributes to Dallas’ rushing success.

A running back will never have the same impact as a quarterback in today’s game, but the question remains whether Prescott’s passing benefits from the threat of Elliott's running. One way to answer this question is to look at whether Prescott benefits from extra defenders in the box and play-action.

About 34 percent of Prescott’s dropbacks have come against a loaded box, which is about 6 percentage points higher than the NFL average. However, Prescott has performed equally well with or without extra defenders in the box. He leads the NFL in Total QBR against an unloaded box and ranks second in QBR without a play-action fake.

What about his offensive line? There’s no doubt that Dallas has an elite run-blocking offensive line, but in terms of pass protection, Prescott has been under duress at a league-average rate. When pressured, he has the second-best QBR and has not turned the ball over in 107 dropbacks.

Finally, Prescott is not simply a product of one elite wide receiver. Dez Bryant has dealt with injuries, and it has been a team effort for Dallas’ receivers, with Bryant, Cole Beasley, Jason Witten and Terrance Williamsall contributing.

We would be naïve to ignore Prescott’s teammates, but he clearly has made his own MVP-caliber impact. All of the candidates on the MVP ballot are having superb seasons, but Prescott not only is having one of the best rookie seasons in NFL history, but also, based on his efficiency and total value, might wind up with one of the best single seasons ever.


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Love it. My rant thread earlier today could've used these facts.

The ESPN "experts" who had Dak at #5 can suck it. He deserves the MVP award but will get shafted because of the team he plays for, just like Romo in 2014.
 

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Love it. My rant thread earlier today could've used these facts.

The ESPN "experts" who had Dak at #5 can suck it. He deserves the MVP award but will get shafted because of the team he plays for, just like Romo in 2014.

So you're crapping on ESPN's "experts" and turning around and agreeing with another article from ESPN?
 

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Derek is playing great ball and is central to the Raiders success.
This is his third year in the league and if Dak is comparing favorable
to him, I'm happy.
Who is more important to their team it would seem Dak but Carr is doing great
and looking forward to Dak's third year in the league, watch out!
 

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Carr also has a great offensive line, a good running back, and two top 10 draft picks at receiver. How come that is never mentioned?
Simply put, the moniker and the inherent mystique of being known as America's Team comes at a price. The writer of the OP is likely local whereas the panel for the MVP vote is likely Northeastern and haven't truly watched the game like we have. That, and the nationally-driven narrative coming into the season was the opposite of what we are seeing.
 

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So you're crapping on ESPN's "experts" and turning around and agreeing with another article from ESPN?
This is an article from an analytics expert. Analytics take nothing but FACTS into account, not emotions.

In any event, this author nails it. There's no logical argument for Derek Carr over Dak. At all.

"Dak's supporting cast is better" is NOT an argument since they're not operating from the same level of performance. Dak has clearly outperformed Carr and has a better W/L record to boot.
 

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It's funny that people try and discredit Dak's season because of the players he plays with but it's never brought up that Ben Rothlisberger has arguably the best receiver and running back in the game. Never mind having the best receiving corp.

I'd like someone to show me a MVP candidate that doesn't have great players around them.
 

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Really, all this crap about "all the credit goes to the offensive line" goes back to the silly Detroit Lions fans. They insisted Barry was way better than Smith, and the only reason Emmit put up as many yards as he did was because of the offensive line. Supposedly if Barry ran behind our line he would have had 4,000 yards a season or some other crap like that. Now others are using it too to discredit our skill players.

/I always tell them that Barry was a quitter. ;)
//They never know how to respond to that
 

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He won't get it because 90% of people say anybody can be good in dallas.
 

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It's funny that people try and discredit Dak's season because of the players he plays with but it's never brought up that Ben Rothlisberger has arguably the best receiver and running back in the game. Never mind having the best receiving corp.

I'd like someone to show me a MVP candidate that doesn't have great players around them.
Really, all this crap about "all the credit goes to the offensive line" goes back to the silly Detroit Lions fans. They insisted Barry was way better than Smith, and the only reason Emmit put up as many yards as he did was because of the offensive line. Supposedly if Barry ran behind our line he would have had 4,000 yards a season or some other crap like that. Now others are using it too to discredit our skill players.

/I always tell them that Barry was a quitter. ;)
//They never know how to respond to that
The 21st century method of screwing Cowboys from winning MVP: make our RB an "MVP candidate" as well!

Happened to Romo in 2014 and it's happening to Dak this season.

It's a QB award nowadays, barring some magical, record-breaking season. Everyone who's even a casual NFL fan knows this.

But in 2014, enough media hype/credit was given to DeMarco Murray that it screwed a deserving Tony Romo from winning the MVP award.

"Murray's carrying the team! He's the Cowboys MVP!"

Pure BS.

But just like that, Romo's MVP candidacy was shot.

And now in 2016, Ezekiel Elliott is being showered with enough praise/hype that it's screwing Dak over in his MVP bid.

The ESPN "experts" poll has Zeke 4th and Dak 5th in MVP rankings. I'm not joking.

Zeke is the only offensive non-QB in the entire NFL listed. I'm happy for his success as well, but let's be honest: Zeke is NOT a serious candidate to win this QB award. At all.

So ask yourself WHY Zeke is being sold as an "MVP candidate."

WHY is the NFL's leading rusher a "candidate"... but not the NFL's leading receiver, Julio Jones? It's a passing league, after all.

Because Julio's candidacy would be a FARCE, just like Zeke's is. Julio being an "MVP candidate" would screw over Matt Ryan (who's 2nd in those ESPN rankings, by the way), just like Zeke's candidacy is screwing Dak over and just like Murray's 2014 candidacy screwed Romo over. But nobody has an anti-Falcons agenda in the national media. Anti-Cowboys agendas? Those are a way of life.

It's a subtle yet effective move. Make TWO Cowboys "MVP candidates" so that neither can win. They'll split votes or at the VERY least, cause enough voters to conclude that Dak's success is due to him having another "MVP candidate" on his own team.

Exact same thing that happened to Romo 2 seasons ago. Tony deserved the award that Aaron Rodgers won in a landslide.

Rodgers: 31 votes
JJ Watt: 13 votes
Romo: 2 votes
Murray: 2 votes

LOL
 

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The 21st century method of screwing Cowboys from winning MVP: make our RB an "MVP candidate" as well!

Happened to Romo in 2014 and it's happening to Dak this season.

It's a QB award nowadays, barring some magical, record-breaking season. Everyone who's even a casual NFL fan knows this.

But in 2014, enough media hype/credit was given to DeMarco Murray that it screwed a deserving Tony Romo from winning the MVP award.

"Murray's carrying the team! He's the Cowboys MVP!"

Pure BS.

But just like that, Romo's MVP candidacy was shot.

And now in 2016, Ezekiel Elliott is being showered with enough praise/hype that it's screwing Dak over in his MVP bid.

The ESPN "experts" poll has Zeke 4th and Dak 5th in MVP rankings. I'm not joking.

Zeke is the only offensive non-QB in the entire NFL listed. I'm happy for his success as well, but let's be honest: Zeke is NOT a serious candidate to win this QB award. At all.

So ask yourself WHY Zeke is being sold as an "MVP candidate."

WHY is the NFL's leading rusher a "candidate"... but not the NFL's leading receiver, Julio Jones? It's a passing league, after all.

Because Julio's candidacy would be a FARCE, just like Zeke's is. Julio being an "MVP candidate" would screw over Matt Ryan (who's 2nd in those ESPN rankings, by the way), just like Zeke's candidacy is screwing Dak over and just like Murray's 2014 candidacy screwed Romo over. But nobody has an anti-Falcons agenda in the national media. Anti-Cowboys agendas? Those are a way of life.

It's a subtle yet effective move. Make TWO Cowboys "MVP candidates" so that neither can win. They'll split votes or at the VERY least, cause enough voters to conclude that Dak's success is due to him having another "MVP candidate" on his own team.

Exact same thing that happened to Romo 2 seasons ago. Tony deserved the award that Aaron Rodgers won in a landslide.

Rodgers: 31 votes
JJ Watt: 13 votes
Romo: 2 votes
Murray: 2 votes

LOL

So Rodgers was undeserving of the MVP in 2014 or you just think it should have been closer in votes?
 

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So Rodgers was undeserving of the MVP in 2014 or you just think it should have been closer in votes?

You weren't asking me, Cal, but I think an equal case could have been made for either. He certainly deserved more first place votes. Say what you want about him being elite or not, 2014 was an elite year for him.

And that sig bro, :D (this is really why I wanted to reply)
 

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here is a good video about Dak

aikman and staubauch talk about him at the end.


Great video, Don. That pass he throws around the 5:35 mark, with a blitzing defender barreling down on him, was amazing.

Nice find, brother :)
 

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having tony romo on the team is why dak shouldnt even be a candidate for mvp. This team would be performing just as well or better. You cant be mvp when you're starting ahead of a better player.

If Carr goes down, what happens to oakland? He's probably the best mvp candidate at qb right now.

Give it to zeke though. If he gets hurt, we're screwed.
 
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