Why dd JJ/Wade want to bring Dan Reeves in, if we were satisfied with Garrett?

[igtmfo]

Like last season, when Wade wanted to bring Dom Capers in to assist Brian Stewart, who Wade/Jerry demoted, then let Stewart go anyway .. Stewart's ego messed him up, and the Cowboys up too.

So why did Jerry and Wade want to bring in a purely offensive mind/coach Dan Reeves, unless they had some reservations about Garrett ??

Both the above were fail.

I think Jerry is epic fail, which is why the team has treaded water since early 1992, when Jerry fired his best pro personnel and scouting guys over petty cash (e.g. because Jerry and Jimmy could run the draft, not the proven pros ..) . It's been downhill ever since.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

I don't know if the "full" story of why Dan Reeves was hired and then abruptly left has be fully disclosed.

I have no idea why Dan Reeves was brought in. I don't know if it was to bring Jason Garrett along or to help restore some unity and discipline in the locker room.

Why would you make Jason Garrett the highest paid Assistant and then bring in Dan Reeves to hold his hand?

 

[zrinkill]

Personally I think Reeves was coming in to help hold up Wades big boy britches .....

 

[cowboyjoe]

I don't know if the "full" story of why Dan Reeves was hired and then abruptly left has be fully disclosed.

I have no idea why Dan Reeves was brought in. I don't know if it was to bring Jason Garrett along or to help restore some unity and discipline in the locker room.

Why would you make Jason Garrett the highest paid Assistant and then bring in Dan Reeves to hold his hand?

what i was told was that since wade and dan reeves had worked together, wade thought he would have another coach on his side like joe d.. special teams coach. Also jerry thought would be a smart move on cowboys front legacy and all since dan reeves had coached with the cowboys with Tom Landry.

Dan Reeves was suppose to work with jason garrett (kinda like tony sparano did with garrett in 2007), help guide him while dan reeves looked at the teams weaknesses and strengths reported that to wade and jerry. Thats what i heard.

 

[hendog]

Apparently JJ wasn't to fond of the idea and was trying to appease Wade who prob wanted Reeves as his strong arm. When JJ told Reeves he'd have to punch the clock Reeves told him he'd have to kiss his ***.

 

[Maikeru-sama]

what i was told was that since wade and dan reeves had worked together, wade thought he would have another coach on his side like joe d.. special teams coach. Also jerry thought would be a smart move on cowboys front legacy and all since dan reeves had coached with the cowboys with Tom Landry.

Dan Reeves was suppose to work with jason garrett (kinda like tony sparano did with garrett in 2007), help guide him while dan reeves looked at the teams weaknesses and strengths reported that to wade and jerry. Thats what i heard.

But why would the highest paid Assistant in the NFL need someone to hold his hand?

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know if I understand the move.

 

[dbair1967]

But why would the highest paid Assistant in the NFL need someone to hold his hand?

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know if I understand the move.

Me either.

Reeves was probably brought in for two reasons. To be a sort of buffer between Wade and Garrett, and to help instill some discipline and attention to detail by bringing in a guy who is considered an anti-Wade type personality.

 

[Chocolate Lab]

Because Wade was going to have to spend even more time with just the defense and away from the offense as the full-time defensive coordinator. Reeves could be sort of Wade's eyes and ears on the offensive side.

Plus, IMO, to be more of a common sense, old-school voice for Garrett to listen to. I think many of us believe that Jason can get too tricky and cute with the things he runs.

BTW, I think it was Garrett who wanted Capers to "help" Stewart. Which is an incredible power play for an OC, and a very young one at that, to be making. But I guess when you're the anointed head coach in waiting, you get to at least try a move like that.

Another BTW... For a billboard guy, you come up with some nice thread topics, igtmfo.

 

[Spectre]

Garrett is getting on my nerves the more and more I see him.
He seems too uptight and lacking a sense of humor altogether.
I don't know if I want that at headcoach.

 

[Chief]

Wade wanted Reeves for the reasons Chocolate Lab stated.

Jerry wasn't comfortable with a powerful presence like Reeves around, which is why he sabotaged the contract.

 

[cowboyjoe]

But why would the highest paid Assistant in the NFL need someone to hold his hand?

I'm not saying you are wrong, I just don't know if I understand the move.

just look at the difference in the scoring in games from 2007 to 2008, thats why wade wanted another guy that had called games etc and could give some insight to jason garrett like tony sparano did

you saw how the dolphins scored their first year under sparano right?
thats why

granted teams get films of you and then they tend to shut you down and you have to keep evolving offensively

thats why wade wanted reeves
im sure your aware that young john garrett is in the press box calling some plays down to garrett or telling him what he sees on the field

john garrett hasnt been in the league long enough to do that, you need a veteran

i think jason garrett would be better up in the press box calling plays, thats what norv turner did under jimmy johnson when we won the championship game against the 49ers in candlestick

if you look on the sidelines you will see sherman, houch-offensive line coach,
wade wilson, skip peete and john garrett are up in the press box sending plays in what they see from the field;

 

[cowboyjoe]

wade also wanted a coach like reeves that would get onto the players offensively, thats what dan reeves has done in the past

would be a very smart move to me, if jerry jones was to swallow his pride and allow dan reeves to be that consultant offensively to help garrett out

 

[theogt]

Wade wanted Reeves for the reasons Chocolate Lab stated.

Jerry wasn't comfortable with a powerful presence like Reeves around, which is why he sabotaged the contract.

Unless you believe Jerry in that it's a standard provision he has in his coaches' contracts. In which case, it's just Jerry's business practice and Dan acted like a child about it.

 

[cowboyjoe]

Wade wanted Reeves for the reasons Chocolate Lab stated.

Jerry wasn't comfortable with a powerful presence like Reeves around, which is why he sabotaged the contract.

totally true, thats the problem on this team, jerry jones doesnt want a powerful presence like another jimmy johnson with total control, but till jerry jones sees that, we are doomed to a degree

just like jerry jones talked about what coughlin did by changing his style some midseason in 2007 and eli manning growing up, jerry is hoping the same things happens to the cowboys with wade and romo

 

[jazzcat22]

I'm not sure, can't remember, but wasn't he being brought in prior to Owens' release.
Maybe it was more for TO than for Garrett and Wade.

 

[masomenos]

Garrett is getting on my nerves the more and more I see him.
He seems too uptight and lacking a sense of humor altogether.
I don't know if I want that at headcoach.

:laugh2:

 

[dbair1967]

Unless you believe Jerry in that it's a standard provision he has in his coaches' contracts. In which case, it's just Jerry's business practice and Dan acted like a child about it.

Yeah, its popular for everyone to blame Jones for everything, but if its true that its the same clause he's put in every coaches contract, its not his fault.

 

[jobberone]

Yeah, its popular for everyone to blame Jones for everything, but if its true that its the same clause he's put in every coaches contract, its not his fault.

And Jones could have just as easily told Dan that but not to worry about it. It's silly to have that in their contract anyway. If they don't come to work and do a good job they're going to get fired anyway. It seems to me to be another way for Jerry to tell people he's in control.

I love Jerry. I do. But he has his faults and control is one of them. I truly believe we will be a better team when Stephan takes over. Watch him melt into the background.

 

[theogt]

And Jones could have just as easily told Dan that but not to worry about it. It's silly to have that in their contract anyway. If they don't come to work and do a good job they're going to get fired anyway. It seems to me to be another way for Jerry to tell people he's in control.

I love Jerry. I do. But he has his faults and control is one of them. I truly believe we will be a better team when Stephan takes over. Watch him melt into the background.

I wouldn't call it silly unless I knew the actual language and was able to compare it against other "market" contracts in the league.

 

[dbair1967]

I wouldn't call it silly unless I knew the actual language and was able to compare it against other "market" contracts in the league.

I agree. I doubt there is anyone in this forum who has a clue of what the other 31 teams do from a contract standpoint. Obviously if some (or alot) of other teams are doing it, it isnt a joke at all and just standard operating procedure.

Or maybe there's another reason Jones puts it in there. Perhaps at some point in the past he has had reason to question how long some of his coaches are really working.