Why did Parcells fail here?

[jman]

Okay, this thread is a tad premature, but let's assume that we struggle the rest of the season and Bill departs. Why did he turn around the Giants, Patriots, and Jets but not the Cowboys? Bad personnel decisions? Never found a QB? Headbutting with Jerry? Game passed him by? Players not buying into what he's selling?

Sorry, I wasn't aware he has failed already.

Give him his time...or we will end up back where most losing teams are mired...coaching changes every other year and never waiting it out to see if a coach can actually do what he says he can.

 

[austintodallas]

Man, the negativity around here just blows me away.

Our talent level is vastly improved this season. It will take some time for these new players, especially on defense, to start reaching their full potential but when they do, look out! We may go 8-8 this year, or even 7-9. Deal with it.

Does anybody actually think we could have hung with Oakland (in their house with their backs to the wall) like we did on Sunday with last year's team? Please. We've won 2 out of three on a tough road stretch. We've been in every game we've played thus far with a chance to win.

The Boys are getting better and Parcells is a major reason why. Patience. Geez.

 

[STSINAZ]

parcells hasnt failed yet in his estimation...he has drafted rookies and is playing them so....that he can get the team up to snuff Next year...one year into the 3-4 we will be better he thinks...and all of the rookies will be better..thats why he is playing them...AND he is going to get a contract extension...i think he knew this year would be tough...he doesnt care...he wants to get the team ready for NEXT YEAR TO MAKE A RUN...thats the only reasonable explanation i can think of...

 

[bbgun]

I just love it when the long knives come out whenever someone fails to genuflect at the altar of Big Bill. You'd think I submitted this post after game four of season one instead of season three--which is where we find ourselves today. Bill turned his previous teams around in two mere years. Now we're into year three of the Dallas Tuna project and the results are still wanting. I took great pains to state that he hasn't technically failed yet, but the current course of the team isn't cause for optomism. This isn't panic or unfairness on my part; it's a serious recitation of the facts. In terms of your cute little cartoons, I'll continue to put the cart before the horse while the rest of you put your heads in the sand.

 

[NorTex]

Let's see, we're 2-2, we've been competitive in all four games, could have won all four games. All this with a bunch of rookies and 2nd and 3rd year players.

And you say Parcells is a failure...cookoo, cookoo, cookoo...you must be nuts.

 

[MikeD17]

this thread makes me want to puke . seriously im going to go puke right now

 

[Givincer]

I just love it when the long knives come out whenever someone fails to genuflect at the altar of Big Bill. You'd think I submitted this post after game four of season one instead of season three--which is where we find ourselves today. Bill turned his previous teams around in two mere years. Now we're into year three of the Dallas Tuna project and the results are still wanting. I took great pains to state that he hasn't technically failed yet, but the current course of the team isn't cause for optomism. This isn't panic or unfairness on my part; it's a serious recitation of the facts. In terms of your cute little cartoons, I'll continue to put the cart before the horse while the rest of you put your heads in the sand.

Actually the 94 patriots went 10-6 and made the playoffs (in parcells first year)but lost in the first round(like the 2003 cowboys) the 95 patriots went 6-10 (like the 2004 cowboys) and the 96 patriots with a second year back in curtis martin (who avg'd 3.6ypc similar to jones 3.5ypc) went 11-5 with a trip to the superbowl and a loss in the superbowl. So I'd say what he did with the patriots 94-95 so far have been comparable to 2003-2004 I don't know if what he did with the 96 pats is in the cards for what he's goin gto do with the 2005 cowboys but it sure gives us some hope I believe.

 

[trickblue]

I just love it when the long knives come out whenever someone fails to genuflect at the altar of Big Bill. You'd think I submitted this post after game four of season one instead of season three--which is where we find ourselves today. Bill turned his previous teams around in two mere years. Now we're into year three of the Dallas Tuna project and the results are still wanting. I took great pains to state that he hasn't technically failed yet, but the current course of the team isn't cause for optomism. This isn't panic or unfairness on my part; it's a serious recitation of the facts. In terms of your cute little cartoons, I'll continue to put the cart before the horse while the rest of you put your heads in the sand.

+10 for mixing in "genuflect"...

 

[jman]

I just love it when the long knives come out whenever someone fails to genuflect at the altar of Big Bill. You'd think I submitted this post after game four of season one instead of season three--which is where we find ourselves today. Bill turned his previous teams around in two mere years. Now we're into year three of the Dallas Tuna project and the results are still wanting. I took great pains to state that he hasn't technically failed yet, but the current course of the team isn't cause for optomism. This isn't panic or unfairness on my part; it's a serious recitation of the facts. In terms of your cute little cartoons, I'll continue to put the cart before the horse while the rest of you put your heads in the sand.

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Dude...you can't see the changes?

Year one...Played who he had...got lucky and thought he may have had more than he thought...He was wrong and admitted it.

Year two...Brought in some old former player of his to set the tone. They are now for the most part gone. And they weren't necessarly brought in as play makers as much as locker room leaders to rid this team of the stench of losers.

Years three...Drafted and signed the future of the next, hopefully, great Dallas defense. And at the same time, fixed alot of the offensive problems. He has to deal with a salary cap. He can't just cut everyone. He can get this ship righted if given a chance.

He may not win a Super Bowl here, but he's been the best chance we've had since Jimmy Johnson.

 

[Alexander]

Okay, this thread is a tad premature, but let's assume that we struggle the rest of the season and Bill departs. Why did he turn around the Giants, Patriots, and Jets but not the Cowboys? Bad personnel decisions? Never found a QB? Headbutting with Jerry? Game passed him by? Players not buying into what he's selling?

This is the first stop where he did not bring along his coaches.

Making due without his assistants is what is making things difficult. I am convinced of that now.

 

[Givincer]

This is the first stop where he did not bring along his coaches.

Making due without his assistants is what is making things difficult. I am convinced of that now.

If you're talking about belichick - belichick hasn't been with parcells since the days of the giants. Weis left parcells and joined belichick. Last I checked Parcells rebuilt two franchises without belichick though...

 

[Wolverine]

Not a bad post at all.

Parcells has done as great a job as anyone coulda for bringing in top talent. Props to the man for that.

But his coaching and choices of assistant coaches are a joke. The Cowboys have to be one of the most unprepared teams come game time and the coachng is just laughable.

If I were to give Parcells grades for his drafts and improving talent I would give him a A+

But for his coaching and choices for assistant coaches and preparing for games I would have to give him a big F.


Bill record here as Cowboys coach is 18 wins and 19 losses. Below .500.

 

[SteveTheCowboy]

Until BP leaves I will reserve my right too, but with that said he really did draft well :laugh2: .

At a minimum we will have FAR MORE talent on this team then before he got here, especially on D.

Most understated post of the whole season.


Yeah... just a bit more talent.

 

[bbgun]

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Dude...you can't see the changes?

Year one...Played who he had...got lucky and thought he may have had more than he thought...He was wrong and admitted it.

Year two...Brought in some old former player of his to set the tone. They are now for the most part gone. And they weren't necessarly brought in as play makers as much as locker room leaders to rid this team of the stench of losers.

Years three...Drafted and signed the future of the next, hopefully, great Dallas defense. And at the same time, fixed alot of the offensive problems. He has to deal with a salary cap. He can't just cut everyone. He can get this ship righted if given a chance.

He may not win a Super Bowl here, but he's been the best chance we've had since Jimmy Johnson.

Dude, I give him a pass for years 1 & 2 because the cupboard was more or less completely bare. You can't make filet mignon out of hamburger. But this is a quick-fix league where bad teams can turn it around overnight (i.e. Panthers two years ago). The jury is very much out on Bill's FA and draft choices. Tuna has drafted his fair share of turds, and that was supposed to stop when he was hired.

 

[Deacon Moss]

If you're talking about belichick - belichick hasn't been with parcells since the days of the giants. Weis left parcells and joined belichick. Last I checked Parcells rebuilt two franchises without belichick though...

Belichik and Weis were with him with the Jets!!!

 

[Kilyin]

I think people give Parcells too much credit for the success Belicheck has had, and will hopefully soon stop having. Anyway...

The Bill Parcells Coaching Tree
Bill Parcells, DAL — His legacy has really taken off the last few seasons. Parcells was on Ray Perkins' staff in New York, but even more than Schottenheimer and Holmgren, he's really crafted himself. Maurice Carthon, who played and coached under Parcells, and Eric Mangini, the new defensive coordinator in New England, are both hot prospects who might expand the Parcells coaching tree within the next several years.

Bill Belichick, NE — This is the one every fan knows. Belichick was an assistant for Perkins, too, and Parcells kept him on when he became head coach. Belichick also worked for Parcells with the Patriots and Jets before returning to New England in 2000.

Romeo Crennel, CLE — Perkins may not have been an exceptional coach, but he knew how to pick 'em. The 1981-82 Giants had Parcells, Belichick, and Crennel as assistants. Crennel stayed with the Giants until 1992, then went to the Pats when Parcells came out of retirement in 1993. He also followed Parcells to the Jets before joining Belichick's staff in '01.

Nick Saban, MIA — Saban is hard to pin down, but the Parcells tree is where he fits best, having spent four years with Belichick in Cleveland. Saban got his NFL start from Jerry Glanville in Houston in the late 1980s.

Tom Coughlin, NYG — The Parcells influence is clear in the way he runs his teams. Coughlin spent three years with Parcells, including the Giants' 1990 Super Bowl campaign.

Between Schottenheimer, Holmgren, and Parcells, 20 of the league's 32 head coaches are accounted for. That's an awfully impressive résumé for those three men. The remaining trees have fewer branches.

http://www.sports-central.org/sports/2005/04/12/the_nfl_coaching_tree.php

 

[Signals]

Chicken little claimed the sky was falling, God declaired: " The universe is expanding."

Principles apply here. Don't subject yourself to fear when faith pays a greater dividend.

Don't be afraid.

Your life is going to be exactly the same weather the Cowboys and Bill Parcells win or lose.

Expend your emotional energy on something that is going to impact your life directly. Please don't get me wrong, I get as excited as the next Cowboys fan about the outcome of the 2005 season.

I don't pretend as if the Dallas Cowboys success or failure is going to impact my life like it will Bill Parcells, Jerry Jones or the other 53 men who's financial future will be different given success or failure.

I've got to admit it's hard for me to relax on Sunday when our opponents defense takes the field when our offense failed on the previous series.

Remember to be just as occupied by your own success as you may be with BP or DeMarcus Ware.

 

[bbgun]

Forgive me father for I have sinned ...