Why Do You Say "No" to Tatum Bell?

[redfog]

Garbage. I would rather draft a young guy and work with him.

 

[ayjackson]

Garbage. I would rather draft a young guy and work with him.

I don't think it's an either/or proposition. We'll likely be adding a back in FA and drafting one.

 

[AbeBeta]

I just think we can do better than him. 2006 he was a pretty good Back. I just am leery once a guy starts breaking down. I'd almost prefer 2 rookies behind Barber to a broken down Vet.

I don't think he broke down last year -- he just got benched.

 

[Spectre]

Cuz he freakin' sucks.



And it's not hate just cuz we don't want a subpar player on the Dallas Cowboys roster.

Bell, doesn't suck by any means.

He's not great either.

But he's MUCH better than Julius and Thompson.

He'd be a good signing.

Hos:
Just how has Bell become a "broken down vet"?

 

[AbeBeta]

Bell, doesn't suck by any means.

He's not great either.

But he's MUCH better than Julius and Thompson.

He'd be a good signing.

Hos:
Just how has Bell become a "broken down vet"?

In the right role Bell could be a nice addition -- however, last year he pissed and moaned about losing playing time so if we wanted to say use him as a change of pace guy, he's likely end up unhappy again.

He isn't better than Julius but he is better than TT.

 

[alancdc]

I thought the guy was pretty good in Denver. I would think that we would want a "home run" guy to spell MBIII as most on this board have said that he is not a home run threat. What exactly do we want? A third down back? I thought that is what MBIII is?

 

[Spectre]

Bell is the perfect compliment to a RB like Barber.
I wouldn't want Bell to be a feature back but if he is used to spell a more complete back who lacks speed such as MB3, it seems like the perfect fit to me.

I would still want a first day RB in the draft, as well, but Bell has starting experience and solid numbers if he ever needed to be called upon to carry the load. He is definitely a speedster who can produce with minimal carries. As long as he was willing to play along and accept his role which I'm sure most players feel like a small role in Dallas is better than a larger one elsewhere.

 

[GimmeTheBall!]

I notice a lot of posters here - and a friend who is a Boys fan -are against signing Tatum Bell.

I personally think he'd be a good practical signing to back up MB3.
Can anyone think of a better available option for backup RB?
I really think he'd be a definite upgrade over Tyson Thompson.

Then we'd need only draft a speedy RB who can catch in the 2nd or 3rd to compliment Marion.

Not understanding the "Tatum Hate"...

No hate here.
I just think Tatum Bell would be a lateral move. He would not be an upgrade to JJ and not even upgrade TThompson's spot.
Too, Bell was injured and did squat last year. So are we willing to gamble to get someone of JJ's performance level?
Does not make any sense to me.
Even the draft could do better for us than this retread.

 

[cowheel]

No hate here.
I just think Tatum Bell would be a lateral move. He would not be an upgrade to JJ and not even upgrade TThompson's spot.
Too, Bell was injured and did squat last year. So are we willing to gamble to get someone of JJ's performance level?
Does not make any sense to me.
Even the draft could do better for us than this retread.

How would Bell be a lateral move?
And how could you possibly believe that Tyson Thompson was as
good as Tatum Bell? lol

I don't recall Tyson Thompson ever running for 1000 yards.
Marion Barber either for that matter.LOL

And what is the gamble of signing a veteran former 1000 yard twenty-something year old rusher for a minimum-ish deal to be your 3rd string tailback?

Personally - I think it would be nice to have a back of Julius Jones' performance level as the 3rd RB on the depth chart.
Especially since Julius was 1st on the depth chart for the last few seasons!

I'd call Bell less of a gamble than wasting a 4th or 5th round draft pick on a back up 3rd string RB that has never played an NFL down.

Theres no way we should waste draft picks on 2 RBs.

"Too, Bell was injured and did squat last year."
...guess we're wasting a roster spot with Zach Thomas too...

 

[silverbear]

The reason I don't want Bell is that he is smaller than Tyson Thompson and he's been given his chance and sucked.

Bell's shorter than Thompson, but not really "smaller"... they both weigh in the 215 pound range, meaning that Bell is more compact, which is good for a running back...

It's silly to say he "sucks" anyway, in the 05 and 06 seasons with the Broncos, Bell had 1946 yards on 406 carries in 28 games (14 starts)... that's an average of 1130 yards for every 16 games played, and a very nice 4.8 yards per carry average... when given the chance to play, Bell has been pretty productive, and he's used to not being the featured back on his team...

If the price is right (and I don't imagine he'll be real costly), this move makes a lot of sense-- providing the Boys still look to a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round too...

 

[Dodger]

Because he's a whiner....and it's my duty to say no to whiners....

 

[joseephuss]

How would Bell be a lateral move?
And how could you possibly believe that Tyson Thompson was as
good as Tatum Bell? lol

I don't recall Tyson Thompson ever running for 1000 yards.
Marion Barber either for that matter.LOL

And what is the gamble of signing a veteran former 1000 yard twenty-something year old rusher for a minimum-ish deal to be your 3rd string tailback?

Personally - I think it would be nice to have a back of Julius Jones' performance level as the 3rd RB on the depth chart.
Especially since Julius was 1st on the depth chart for the last few seasons!

I'd call Bell less of a gamble than wasting a 4th or 5th round draft pick on a back up 3rd string RB that has never played an NFL down.

Theres no way we should waste draft picks on 2 RBs.

"Too, Bell was injured and did squat last year."
...guess we're wasting a roster spot with Zach Thomas too...

Bell's shorter than Thompson, but not really "smaller"... they both weigh in the 215 pound range, meaning that Bell is more compact, which is good for a running back...

It's silly to say he "sucks" anyway, in the 05 and 06 seasons with the Broncos, Bell had 1946 yards on 406 carries in 28 games (14 starts)... that's an average of 1130 yards for every 16 games played, and a very nice 4.8 yards per carry average... when given the chance to play, Bell has been pretty productive, and he's used to not being the featured back on his team...

If the price is right (and I don't imagine he'll be real costly), this move makes a lot of sense-- providing the Boys still look to a RB in the 2nd or 3rd round too...

Bell is used to not being the featured back on a team, but that doesn't mean that is the role he wants to maintain. His whining stems from wanting more carries and a bigger role.

It would be a lateral move. He and Julius Jones are very similar backs. It is fair to say that Julius has been better than Bell. At least more productive.

Since both came into the league Julius has played in 6 more games, had 360 more carries, gained 960 more yards, scored 4 more TDs and caught 23 more passes for 310 more yards than Bell.

It is a big assumption to think that Bell can be had for the minimum salary and accept a role as the 3rd string back. It may be a role he can fit nicely into, but that is not what he will be seeking out when he signs with a team.

 

[cowheel]

Bell is used to not being the featured back on a team, but that doesn't mean that is the role he wants to maintain. His whining stems from wanting more carries and a bigger role. .

It basically comes down to who would sign him as a feature back... my guess is no one. My guess is everyone else feels the way you guys do about this guy. This would be his 3rd team - in 5? years.... I'd be willing to bet he'd take a back up gig. He doesn't have much leverage.

It would be a lateral move. He and Julius Jones are very similar backs. It is fair to say that Julius has been better than Bell. At least more productive.
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It could never be a lateral move. Julius was our starter. We'd be signing Bell as a 3rd stringer. So comparing him to Julius is inaccurate. You should compare him to our 3rd RB from last year - Tyson Thompson.

Definite upgrade.

Tell me where else would you be able to find Julius Jones productivity for a 3rd string RB? LOL... I'd love to keep Julius if he'd agree to be our 3rd stringer. Chances are he wouldn't go for it. - he still has feature back asperations -and there are a few teams (like Carolina) that may give him a shot...
So why not get a guy that is "similar"?

It is a big assumption to think that Bell can be had for the minimum salary and accept a role as the 3rd string back. It may be a role he can fit nicely into, but that is not what he will be seeking out when he signs with a team.

So who would sign him to be a starter or feature back at this point?
Yes - i'm assuming nobody would... I'm assuming most people view him the way you do.

 

[joseephuss]

It basically comes down to who would sign him as a feature back... my guess is no one. My guess is everyone else feels the way you guys do about this guy. This would be his 3rd team - in 5? years.... I'd be willing to bet he'd take a back up gig. He doesn't have much leverage.


It could never be a lateral move. Julius was our starter. We'd be signing Bell as a 3rd stringer. So comparing him to Julius is inaccurate. You should compare him to our 3rd RB from last year - Tyson Thompson.

Definite upgrade.

Tell me where else would you be able to find Julius Jones productivity for a 3rd string RB? LOL... I'd love to keep Julius if he'd agree to be our 3rd stringer. Chances are he wouldn't go for it. - he still has feature back asperations -and there are a few teams (like Carolina) that may give him a shot...
So why not get a guy that is "similar"?



So who would sign him to be a starter or feature back at this point?
Yes - i'm assuming nobody would... I'm assuming most people view him the way you do.

I don't see many if any teams wanting to sign him as a featured back/starter. That doesn't mean he will sign to be a 3rd string guy. He will at least want to be the 2nd string back, so I don't see how he is being compared to Thompson.

Although Julius would start games I viewed him as the 2nd string back last year. Being on the field the first series of the game does not mean as much as being on the field during the critical series of the game. Barber was the top back on the team and Julius was the back up.

I also don't view Bell as a guy who can be a 3rd down back. He doesn't catch well or pass block well. I would just leave Barber in on 3rd downs. In that regards Bell is a clear step down to Julius.