Why does Dak play so great against the Eagles yet so bad against the Commanders?

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I didn't think he played great against the Eagles. They were playing a loose defense against him and the Cowboys still nearly lost.
The Commanders wanted to win, and didn't play loose.
Make no mistake; if the Eagles had been playing to win, that game would have been a loss for Dallas.
cowboys scored 40 points. if we lose that game, it would be because of defense.

but yeah, I get it. defense culpability is irrelevant to the argument of wanting to bash dak.

and why wouldn't the eagles playing to win? or is this your way of knocking Dak, by saying the other team didn't want to win, laid down to lose and thus Dak had a good performance because he is not capable of playing well.

yeah, I don't buy that shiet.
 

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Because Dak is Dak

Good Dak top 10 QB
Bad Dak bottom 10 QB

Depends on which one shows up.

The multiple int's are a new thing that's very disturbing. He cannot let that happen in playoffs.
That is exactly what i said a week ago or so. We got a lot if bickering about dak...fact is he's as good as his biggest fans say he is. AND as bad as his biggest critics say.

Fun times.
 

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cowboys scored 40 points. if we lose that game, it would be because of defense.

but yeah, I get it. defense culpability is irrelevant to the argument of wanting to bash dak.

and why wouldn't the eagles playing to win? or is this your way of knocking Dak, by saying the other team didn't want to win, laid down to lose and thus Dak had a good performance because he is not capable of playing well.

yeah, I don't buy that shiet.
Any critism of dak....even earned...like last game....is "bashing dak" and makes your blood boil.
 

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Any critism of dak....even earned...like last game....is "bashing dak" and makes your blood boil.
no, justified criticsm is welcomed. I have done the same. but to say it would be his fault if we lost a game after we scored 40 point, is called pure hatred...

any positive comments about Dak makes Dak haters heads explode violently...such as like yourself. you just can't stand anyone even saying he made a good throw, it causes you to stump your feet and throw a hissy fit.
 

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That is exactly what i said a week ago or so. We got a lot if bickering about dak...fact is he's as good as his biggest fans say he is. AND as bad as his biggest critics say.

Fun times.
It's not one play, one series or even one game that determines if a player is good or bad. It's his body of work that should be examined. Dak's body of work says he's a good quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe not great, but more than good enough to accomplish what we as fans want the team to accomplish. I think we will find out next year that without 6 or 7 balls that receivers batted to defenders he will go back to not throwing more than 9-10 INTs per season. I don't believe for a second that 15-20 INTs is going to become the norm for him so I am not inclined to use this flukey *** season to define him. There is no question that he crossed over the line in terms of making more aggressive throws this year.. But I believe he has it within him to dial that back just enough to eliminate at least half of the interceptions that came from them. But as I have stated previously, I don't think it's something he can fix in season. So this Dak is who we got until the Cowboys are eliminated.
 

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Ran very vanilla plays since we clinched. After egirls game they have been experimenting with the best players for the best position at best formations. Hoping we see some 12 formation and run the ball first, establish run and play action. Play good Defense and ST. That’s the formula. The ST needs to make up for last weeks sudden drop off. Those 2 turnovers early really did us in. We weren’t planning on lighting it up.
 

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It's not one play, one series or even one game that determines if a player is good or bad. It's his body of work that should be examined. Dak's body of work says he's a good quarterback. Nothing more, nothing less. Maybe not great, but more than good enough to accomplish what we as fans want the team to accomplish. I think we will find out next year that without 6 or 7 balls that receivers batted to defenders he will go back to not throwing more than 9-10 INTs per season. I don't believe for a second that 15-20 INTs is going to become the norm for him so I am not inclined to use this flukey *** season to define him. There is no question that he crossed over the line in terms of making more aggressive throws this year.. But I believe he has it within him to dial that back just enough to eliminate at least half of the interceptions that came from them. But as I have stated previously, I don't think it's something he can fix in season. So this Dak is who we got until the Cowboys are eliminated.
There certainly is a lot more good than bad. Someone accused me of saying (or implying) "dak sucks". I've said or felt that way with just a handful of plays.
Of course every player has 'em. But they are so ineptly bad (to me) they really stand out.

Last year he had Noah wide open to the sidelines and threw it in the dirt to lose the game. Then the weird slide. This year the pick six after the exact same play should-have-been-pick 6. Real head-scratcher.

But no...generally I don;t think he sucks.
 

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no, justified criticsm is welcomed. I have done the same. but to say it would be his fault if we lost a game after we scored 40 point, is called pure hatred...

any positive comments about Dak makes Dak haters heads explode violently...such as like yourself. you just can't stand anyone even saying he made a good throw, it causes you to stump your feet and throw a hissy fit.
LOL....you are seriously deluded about Dak, dude.

When have I ever argued when Dak gets praised?

Never.

You are nuts...and a liar. You've convinced yourself of these falsehoods to justify a totally unreasonable Crusade.

Nuts.
 

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There certainly is a lot more good than bad. Someone accused me of saying (or implying) "dak sucks". I've said or felt that way with just a handful of plays.
Of course every player has 'em. But they are so ineptly bad (to me) they really stand out.

Last year he had Noah wide open to the sidelines and threw it in the dirt to lose the game. Then the weird slide. This year the pick six after the exact same play should-have-been-pick 6. Real head-scratcher.

But no...generally I don;t think he sucks.

If you're referring to the Raiders game on Thanksgiving Brown was not wide open and the throw was not "in the dirt." It was low and behind.. A poor throw to be sure.. but no need to exaggerate. That throw was the first indication that his calf was not right to me. That's one of the throws that Dak absolutely excels at. Rolling out, on the move he has an uncanny ability to work is feet and torque his body so that the throw is on the money. His footwork on that throw showed me he did not trust that outside leg. Because to make that throw reliably you have to launch off that outside leg, torque your body pointing the inside foot at the target and then land on the outside foot. Dak basically refused to put any pressure on that outside leg on that throw and as a result it was terrible. He missed a number of throws like that after coming back which is why I never believed him when he said his calf was "fine." Maybe physically it was, but psychologically? Not even close. What we have seen from him throwing on the move this season confirmed that for me. He has gone back to being absolutely lethal outside the pocket.

Most of the head scratchers have come from within the pocket.. and those generally involve bodies in his line of sight or bodies hanging on his arm. Then there are balls that are tipped at the line which people also seem to completely brush aside when discussing his interceptions. There was one against the Packers that replay showed was tipped and then another against Houston. That's why it's so frustrating that people want to go to the "Dak needs to quit throwing interceptions" argument as if all of them or even most of them were just brain dead throws. If you watched the games you saw at least 6 that hit receivers in the hands/chest/face and bounced up. You had two where his arm was hit and two others tipped at the line of scrimmage. That's 10 of the 15 right there which fall squarely on someone other than the QB. If someone wants to go ahead and beat the hell out of him for the other 5 then fine.. but know that you look silly doing so.
 

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If you're referring to the Raiders game on Thanksgiving Brown was not wide open and the throw was not "in the dirt." It was low and behind.. A poor throw to be sure.. but no need to exaggerate. That throw was the first indication that his calf was not right to me. That's one of the throws that Dak absolutely excels at. Rolling out, on the move he has an uncanny ability to work is feet and torque his body so that the throw is on the money. His footwork on that throw showed me he did not trust that outside leg. Because to make that throw reliably you have to launch off that outside leg, torque your body pointing the inside foot at the target and then land on the outside foot. Dak basically refused to put any pressure on that outside leg on that throw and as a result it was terrible. He missed a number of throws like that after coming back which is why I never believed him when he said his calf was "fine." Maybe physically it was, but psychologically? Not even close. What we have seen from him throwing on the move this season confirmed that for me. He has gone back to being absolutely lethal outside the pocket.

Most of the head scratchers have come from within the pocket.. and those generally involve bodies in his line of sight or bodies hanging on his arm. Then there are balls that are tipped at the line which people also seem to completely brush aside when discussing his interceptions. There was one against the Packers that replay showed was tipped and then another against Houston. That's why it's so frustrating that people want to go to the "Dak needs to quit throwing interceptions" argument as if all of them or even most of them were just brain dead throws. If you watched the games you saw at least 6 that hit receivers in the hands/chest/face and bounced up. You had two where his arm was hit and two others tipped at the line of scrimmage. That's 10 of the 15 right there which fall squarely on someone other than the QB. If someone wants to go ahead and beat the hell out of him for the other 5 then fine.. but know that you look silly doing so.
Im sorry, i thought i made it very clear im not beating him up. My bad.
 

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Im sorry, i thought i made it very clear im not beating him up. My bad.

Not really you specifically.. but obviously a lot of people harp on the "15 interceptions" without any regard to the genesis of them. Easily two thirds of them had little or nothing to do with him.. yet people continually site the number like they don't know that. If they watched the games and still do so then they are either blind idiots or they have an agenda.
 

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LOL....you are seriously deluded about Dak, dude.

When have I ever argued when Dak gets praised?

Never.

You are nuts...and a liar. You've convinced yourself of these falsehoods to justify a totally unreasonable Crusade.

Nuts.
What is wrong with you?
 

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What is wrong with you?
Whats wrong with me is that i dont like liars. We got these insane crusaders lying just to increase the dak hate head count to justify their insane crusade.

What is wrong with you?
 

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That's what I don't get about Dak. He can play really really well at times. Several instances where he has done that this season and throughout his career. So why does he play so God awful at times? Let's hope we get the good Dak against the Bucs and hopefully in the divisional and beyond.
Dak is mostly a 1 read/2 read QB. When that 1/2 reads works, he does great. When it doesn't, he looks terrible.
 

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That's what I don't get about Dak. He can play really really well at times. Several instances where he has done that this season and throughout his career. So why does he play so God awful at times? Let's hope we get the good Dak against the Bucs and hopefully in the divisional and beyond.
umm you need that mansplained?? the OL looks like garbage, wrs looked lie they were running the same plays over and over not getting open, SRTs played like crud, d while respectable also didn't play well.. so against the Eagles the TEAM played better, against the commodes, they all stunk it us. Maybe have a run game, OL pass protection, more creative gameplan, and play solid mistake freeish ball..

I mean what were you watching? you think outside Dak everyone showed up to play , i hope not..so stop the what's wrong with dak and start with what's wrong with the team.

sure would be nice to establish a run game, have the OL play better and not be one dimensional and easy to defense,.
 

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Not really you specifically.. but obviously a lot of people harp on the "15 interceptions" without any regard to the genesis of them. Easily two thirds of them had little or nothing to do with him.. yet people continually site the number like they don't know that. If they watched the games and still do so then they are either blind idiots or they have an agenda.
5 are clearly on him a few were both and many were not close to a dak issue. one dimensional ball with a poor OL, no run game, and some odd routes being called will sometimes make qb try and do too much.
 

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Whats wrong with me is that i dont like liars. We got these insane crusaders lying just to increase the dak hate head count to justify their insane crusade.

What is wrong with you?
You're a closet Dak hater. Crusaders? What you responded to wasn't anything to cry about. I'd say you let your emotions take over over dumb ****.
 
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