Why does everyone want DeCastro so much?

ABQCOWBOY;4425028 said:
This is not true. There are scouts who believe that he does not have very good lateral movement, which could mean that he is a RG. This is why the combine is going to be so important for him. If he shows that he does have it, then it's a huge deal for him. He will make a lot of money. If not, it will cost him.

Why the heck did you take Decastro for the panthers in the mock draft?!?
 
GloryDaysRBack;4425068 said:
Why the heck did you take Decastro for the panthers in the mock draft?!?

They needed an interior lineman. I can not evaluate on info that I don't have I have to go on what is there and right now then, he was the best interior OL prospect available to me. I mean, it's not rocket science.

Why do you get so defensive about the fact that not all scouts believe he is the best?

That is precisely why you have a combine.
 
RS12;4425063 said:
Incorrect. He played RG his years at Stanford and the scouts still have him going this high. He has the feet to play either guard spot though. He made his money and rep on three years worth of film.

Exactly what do you think is incorrect?

I will tell you now, if DeCastro is just a RG, there is no way he will go top 10.

I would think that every person on this board would want all questions on this player answered. Why not be in favor of getting any questions answered? Makes no sense not to.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4425126 said:
Exactly what do you think is incorrect?

I will tell you now, if DeCastro is just a RG, there is no way he will go top 10.

I would think that every person on this board would want all questions on this player answered. Why not be in favor of getting any questions answered? Makes no sense not to.

You think the combine has a big impact on his draft status and I dont. Unless he totally falls on his face (highly doubtful) he goes top 15. If he performs and interviews as I think he will, good chance he goes before the Cowboys draft.
 
ABQCOWBOY;4425117 said:
They needed an interior lineman. I can not evaluate on info that I don't have I have to go on what is there and right now then, he was the best interior OL prospect available to me. I mean, it's not rocket science.

Why do you get so defensive about the fact that not all scouts believe he is the best?

That is precisely why you have a combine.

You took what I said the wrong way..I agree w you on Decastro..I was literally wondering why you took him..wasnt being sarcastic
 
dantheman41;4424929 said:
Your taking my forum out of context. I didn't say DeCastro isn't great or even the best guard in the class. My argument is that if the decline in guard from 1st to 2nd or even 3rd is not that big a difference, then why take a guard in the 1st when you can have a defensive player that is a much bigger difference in talent then a guy in the 2nd or 3rd. Obviously I want a MUCH better offensive line then last year, but I also want where the best value is


This is a deep year for guards but DeCastro is being called a can't miss pick. That's the key. The assumption is that he could/will be the BPA at a position of need. He is the best of a deep class. It's not like deep classes at any certain position make the 2nd and 3rd rounders chosen at that position automatically safe picks. Most draft picks don't work out, deep class or no. It's still basically a crap shoot, even if the the odds are somewhat, or even significantly, better.
 
Yeah, it's a mystery why anyone would want the best guard prospect since Steve Hutchinson.
 
burmafrd;4424855 said:
I do not get why people would NOT want Decastro.

He is by consensus the best guard in the draft.

Our guard play pretty much stank.

So you have the rare oppurtuinity- like last year- of having the likely BPA at your pick be also in a position of need.

Passing on him would just be DUMB.

TheCount;4424856 said:
Answer is simple really. Time has passed since we last saw Romo getting his lunch eaten by an opposing defender and offensive line is not a sexy pick.

RS12;4424865 said:
From draft scout:


9. OG David DeCastro
Stanford, 6-5, 312 pounds
Stanford's pro-style offense has prepared DeCastro to plug-and-play in somebody's NFL line. He is one reason why Stanford averaged more than 200 yards rushing a game for the last two years and he is easily the top guard prospect in this draft. DeCastro plays with a solid base, necessary aggression and knows how to use his hands to control defenders. His mobility is especially impressive when he pulls and leads through the hole. He also uses those quick feet and great body balance to mirror pass rushers effectively. DeCastro, a finalist for the Outland Trophy as top offensive lineman in the country, is regaled by teammates for his non-stop work ethic both in the weight room and in practice.

Hmmm just don't see it if you all would be so kind as to point to which game of his he was blocking a pretty sure 1st rnder I would like to watch it...from all I can gather (granted haven't look to hard at it)that the best guy he was suppose to have blocked was the potential 3rd rnd NT from Washington and if that is true than expectations might need to be lowered on this guy.
 
41gy#;4424933 said:
The Jets drafted D'Brickashaw Ferguson (top 10) and Nick Mangold in the first round, and those two players have been the heart and soul of their team.

Drafting blue-chip offensive linemen is a smart, safe, solid way to build your team. The offensive line is literally the life-blood of your team, imso.

So, I don't want cheap building materials or band-aides when it come to the Cowboys offensive line. I don't want the 2nd, 3rd, or 4th floors of the building to get blown away by the Giants or Eagles or Commanders. Those floors need to be quality and strong, too. It takes more than a foundation to build a solid building.

The foundation is here. Tyron Smith

The building is no where near finished, imo.

This! Many of us have been screaming for Dallas to fortify the trenches for years. You don't pass up blue chip talent - especially in an area of need. We didn't get cute and, wisely, picked Tyron last year. If DeCastro is there, it SHOULD be a no-brainer (regardless of who we sign in FA). Unfortunately, I'm not so sure that he'll be there. He is one of the few prospects with essentially no negatives. Those guys usually end up being Pro Bowlers. If DeCastro fell to us, it would be an absolute gift. I will flip out if he is there and we pass him up, much like I did when we didn't take Steven Jackson - a top player (that filled a need) who fell to us.
 
Zaxor;4425364 said:
Hmmm just don't see it if you all would be so kind as to point to which game of his he was blocking a pretty sure 1st rnder I would like to watch it...from all I can gather (granted haven't look to hard at it)that the best guy he was suppose to have blocked was the potential 3rd rnd NT from Washington and if that is true than expectations might need to be lowered on this guy.


Really poor analogy. What great Pass Defenses did Cam Newton go up against?

I could find a lot of examples like that.

IF you have serious doubts about a prospect then seeing who he went up against might have validity.

But downrating a guy everyone else is praising as a top pick for THAT means you just want an excuse.
 
Even if we sign Nicks in FA i'd still want him at 14, i'm tired of watching this offense suck cause of poor OL play
 
ABQCOWBOY;4425028 said:
This is not true. There are scouts who believe that he does not have very good lateral movement, which could mean that he is a RG. This is why the combine is going to be so important for him. If he shows that he does have it, then it's a huge deal for him. He will make a lot of money. If not, it will cost him.

There were scouts that thought Ryan Leaf would be better then Peyton Manning. Only a few though.

Pretty much the same few you are talking about, I bet.
 
Sign a Center and draft a guard. Specifically DeCastro. (Now, odds are not good that that is even possible, but more on that later)

btw, to those that say a guard can't go top 10 I think you're wrong. I think a player like DeCastro can go top 10.

Why? If teams are easily willing to sign top guards to $50+ million dollar contracts, I can't see why they wouldn't draft a guard who is as close to a sure thing at guard as you can get in the top 10.

Lets go back to 2001. Knowing what you know today, would you be willing to draft Steve Hutchinson with a top 10 pick? What about other guards. Would you draft Larry Allen, Logan Mankins, Carl Nicks, or Alan Faneca with a top 10 pick?

DeCastro is big and powerful. He is definitely a + to a running game. The guy needs a little work in his pass protection, but he is young and extremely smart. (he plays at Stamford) He doesn't give up on plays even when he makes mistakes. IMO, this guy is going to be the standard by which guards are measured by in a couple of years. He won't be the next Larry Allen, but I do think he will be the next Steve Hutchinson.

Now, if I were the Cowboys I would be all over this kid at 14 as I think the best defensive front guys will be gone. Problem is, I think this kid is gone in the top 10. If for some reason he is not, he definitely won't be there at 14.
 
Ren;4425383 said:
Even if we sign Nicks in FA i'd still want him at 14, i'm tired of watching this offense suck cause of poor OL play
I couldn't agree more..let's finish the job on the OL
 
Gosselin: DeCastro is the safest, may be the best pick. You look at Tony Romo, he's 32 this fall. He's got probably a window of two years left as an elite quarterback. They've got to maximize Romo in these next two seasons. Last year, he had no confidence with the interior of his line. You plug in a DeCastro, a guard with some size, I think Tony Romo is a better quarterback. And the whole thing hinges on Romo. They think he's the guy whose going to lead them to the promised land. They've got to get him comfortable again. That wouldn't solve the cornerback and the pass-rush issues, but it would make Romo a better player.
 
garyv;4425508 said:
Gosselin: DeCastro is the safest, may be the best pick. You look at Tony Romo, he's 32 this fall. He's got probably a window of two years left as an elite quarterback. They've got to maximize Romo in these next two seasons. Last year, he had no confidence with the interior of his line. You plug in a DeCastro, a guard with some size, I think Tony Romo is a better quarterback. And the whole thing hinges on Romo. They think he's the guy whose going to lead them to the promised land. They've got to get him comfortable again. That wouldn't solve the cornerback and the pass-rush issues, but it would make Romo a better player.

Hell it would make Felix and Murray better players and clearly give Romo more time to make his 2nd and 3rd reads instead of having to take off on the run and trying to find a target on the move.

I know there are some other good G out there but there is a concensus that DeCastro is the best enough so that most have him going early to mid 1st rd. I don't see any other G being thought of that highly. Not to say they are not good players but they are not to the level of DeCastro.
 
Why do I want DeCastro? Did you see what the Giants defensive line did to us? Did you see what the Eagles pass rush did to Romo?

That is exactly why I want him.
 

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