Why does it seem like our receivers struggle getting seperation?

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Why does it seem like our receivers struggle getting seperation? It just seems to me, that Romo is always having to throw a near perfect pass (or the receivers are having to make an extraordinary catch)
T. Owens could get seperation.
J. Witten gets seperation. (I agree it's tight at times)
J. Holley gets seperation

I know, some will say its because he's a surprise when he comes in the game, but it just seems he gets open when he's in the game. What would it hurt to give him more of a shot. See what he can do. I honestly think Holley runs very good routes and gets open because of it. It's how Witten gets open (lord knows its not his speed)

I noticed in what I think was the next to last offensive series. Third down, Tony hits Phillips short of the first. Just as the throw is off, I noticed Holley break across the middle wide open. Split second decision, but if Romo goes Holley instead of Phillips its a huge gain.

IMO ogletree doesnt see another snap unless someone gets hurt. Holley deserves a chance.
 
Because they do.

Witten gets it because he runs into dead spots in zones and knows how to play the game known as "football".

Austin can get it with speed. But he is made of paper mache.

Dez doesn't run his routes or have the moves yet. Give him time, he doesn't necessarily need a big lead, just a window for him to get the damn ball.

Robinson is lucky to be playing and hes making the most of it - he doesn't get huge separation but works to get his mitts on the ball when it comes.

Holley should be bagging groceries and runs slower than Witten but all he does is make catches.

We rarely scheme well enough to spring a receiver wide open.
 
It could either be poor route running or poorly designed routes...or both. It's been a problem on this team for a while now. Our receivers, other than Witten, just don't get open. They're completely smothered. Then on other teams, the receivers are just running freely in the open.
 
they run the same routes all the time never do we see slants to give the dbs something to worrie about. also when T.O was here garrett was in miami and when garrett arrived T.O. was already gone.
 
The offensive line doesnt help either, it is a lot easier for the Cardinals DBs to play aggressively when they know the QB has to get rid of the ball in a hurry.
 
budsboys;4293925 said:
they run the same routes all the time never do we see slants to give the dbs something to worrie about. also when T.O was here garrett was in miami and when garrett arrived T.O. was already gone.

:confused:

Garrett was T.O.'s offensive coordinator for 2 years: 2007 and 2008. Or did you mean something else?
 
We also dont incorporate the pik plays that other teams run that help separation at key points.....
 
budsboys;4293925 said:
they run the same routes all the time never do we see slants to give the dbs something to worrie about. also when T.O was here garrett was in miami and when garrett arrived T.O. was already gone.

TO and Garreet worked together. In fact TO and Garrett went 13 -3 the first year. If you recall, the following the wheels came of...TO was causing a disruption in the lockeroom and said Witten/Romo/Garrett were drawing up plays in the dirt for Witten etc...
 
budsboys;4293925 said:
they run the same routes all the time never do we see slants to give the dbs something to worrie about. also when T.O was here garrett was in miami and when garrett arrived T.O. was already gone.

TO was here for Garrett's first two years as OC.
 
They run the same routes over and over again. All I ever see are go and flat routes. We need to run some slant passes.
 
sbark;4293943 said:
We also dont incorporate the pik plays that other teams run that help separation at key points.....

Robinson is here so he should be working on it with the WRs. I've seen us try and run it but the two guys ran into each other.

I think the biggest reason is that we don't draft good route runners. They are all biggish, physical guys but none of them have been good route runners. The last player we had who was a good route runner was Terry Glenn and he was open all the time.

We could really benefit from a small, quick guy who runs good routes. Maybe a guy like Ryan Broyles from OU? With the injury maybe he's available in the second or third round in the next draft.
 
Dallas Cowboys Fan;4293964 said:
They run the same routes over and over again. All I ever see are go and flat routes. We need to run some slant passes.

I've seen Dez run those and get blanketed.

I've seen Robinson run one and cause a pick six.

The biggest problem is these guys aren't good route runners.

Maybe a whole year of Jimmy Robinson will help.

I think we need to change our whole organizational philosophy to WRs.

The only WR we have who actually gets open on his routes is Austin. Dez just outphysicals DBs for the ball. Robinson only gets open against zones or busted plays.
 
SDCowboy85;4293897 said:
It could either be poor route running or poorly designed routes...or both. It's been a problem on this team for a while now. Our receivers, other than Witten, just don't get open. They're completely smothered. Then on other teams, the receivers are just running freely in the open.

We need more formation, and routes, like that of the Chargers.

We need to bunch our WR's more, let them line up tight ect...all that spreading out crap is to easy on a defender.

When you bunch them up, and have them all going in every direction, it makes it hard, especially for man 2 man coverage
 
Terence Newman700;4293969 said:
We need more formation, and routes, like that of the Chargers.

We need to bunch our WR's more, let them line up tight ect...all that spreading out crap is to easy on a defender.

When you bunch them up, and have them all going in every direction, it makes it hard, especially for man 2 man coverage

Have you seen how badly those guys do with bunch formations?

I think Robinson needs a full offseason to work with this group.

I hope he also starts to influence our draft process to bring in better route runners. Lord knows they managed to fill a team full of such guys on GB.
 
SDCowboy85;4293897 said:
It could either be poor route running or poorly designed routes...or both. It's been a problem on this team for a while now. Our receivers, other than Witten, just don't get open. They're completely smothered. Then on other teams, the receivers are just running freely in the open.

We need a better design regarding our patterns. We need our WR's to work the middle of the field a lot more.
 
It's partly because of the style of WR that Dallas likes. Big, YAC types who don't necessarily run good routes. Also, I don't feel like our OC is up to par.
 
The Cowboy WRs needs to learn the route tree like Miles Austin has... Bottom line, that guy can run every route at the same speed.
 
The reason other team's WR look like they have great separation is that they are playing against Newman and Ball. If our WR played against them, they would be getting great separation too. :bang2:
 
Mr Cowboy;4293997 said:
The reason other team's WR look like they have great separation is that they are not playing against Newman and Ball. If our WR played against them, they would be getting great separation too. :bang2:

Nah, even Newman and Ball could cover our WRs. Why do you think we always hear about these great camps they're having?
 
Eskimo;4293968 said:
I've seen Dez run those and get blanketed.

I've seen Robinson run one and cause a pick six.

The biggest problem is these guys aren't good route runners.

Maybe a whole year of Jimmy Robinson will help.

I think we need to change our whole organizational philosophy to WRs.

The only WR we have who actually gets open on his routes is Austin. Dez just outphysicals DBs for the ball. Robinson only gets open against zones or busted plays.


This.

Bryant is an exceptional athlete but he's got a ways to go as a route runner. As coachscout pointed out last week, when a CB is able to match him athletically, he struggles to get away from coverage. Now with that said, he's still going to finish with good #s as a 2nd year WR. I still think the sky's the limit if he puts the work in. He has all the physical tools needed. Still a very young player with limited experience above the HS level.

Robinson is a long strider. He's got good speed but doesn't seem to have much explosion which is key in getting separation from coverage. Ideally, he's a good #3 when the #1 is in place.

Austin is the one guy who can consistently defeat man coverage due to his route running and ability to explode out of cuts. Combine that with his size/speed, he's a tough cover. I can't imagine Arizona woud've challenged us with so much man-coverage if Austin played.

What i find interesting is our WR dont seem to challenge the middle of the field as much with Austin out of the lineup.
 

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