Why Dont We Press?

[texbumthelife]

Some posters here seem to have a telepathic relationship with the coaches and players on the team. Could those with such gifts give me a little insight?

I dont need explanations of how schemes work in general as I have a very good understanding of that. However, it seems to me that several of our deficiencies this season could be at least eased a bit by lining up right over the WR and pressing them.

1) Pressing the WR's would give our front seven another second or so to get the the QB. For Ware, another second could result in 1-2 more sacks/game.

2) Pressing WR's gives Roy a chance to play even closer to the LOS and make more plays, keeping him out of the deep and deep-intermediate zones.

3) The year we had the #1 defense, didn't we press the wide receiver's?

So my proposal is this, when not employing zone blitzes, which we need to emply more often, I think we should press the wide receiver's on the outside and filter them to the middle of the field, right where Roy lurks. Then, after pressing and filtering plays to the inside, we should drop the cornerback's and Hamlin into a cover-3 zone system.
- IMO this would allow us to keep our linebackers on the field more, give more looks in zone blitzing packages and maximize the ability of play-makers (Ware and Roy).

*This is not criticism, just open debate and idea, keep your flaming between you and your boyfriend.

 

[Clove]

I can't give a definitive answer, but I can tell you that we press sometimes. Occasionally Newman comes up to press, and almost always when he's in the slot.

I'm thinking they want our guys to jump routes or whatever, or maybe read the QB more.

 

[texbumthelife]

I think the main reason is that the secondary can support the run better and give up less big plays when the sag off the wide receiver, however in our defense I think it would be mutually benefitial to all on the field to at least press more.

 

[Clove]

I think the main reason is that the secondary can support the run better and give up less big plays when the sag off the wide receiver, however in our defense I think it would be mutually benefitial to all on the field to at least press more.

OTH, Henry has been able to thrive in this type of coverage jumping routes left and right.

I have no clue why Phillips does this, but I'd also like to see MORE, not all the time, but a lot more than we have been.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Because savy WR's can beat the press often, and unless you have Newman caliber make-up speed you're in a world of hurt.

 

[theogt]

Yeah, this has been a major gripe of mine all season. It hands the offense the key to beating the "pressure defense.

Perhaps when both starting corners are healthy, we'll see a difference.

 

[dallasfaniac]

Because savy WR's can beat the press often, and unless you have Newman caliber make-up speed you're in a world of hurt.

Exactly. Especially if the DB allows the WR to get to the outside. That's usually a sure TD because the safety won't be able to get over in time.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Exactly. Especially if the DB allows the WR to get to the outside. That's usually a sure TD because the safety won't be able to get over in time.

Especially our safeties.

 

[LittleBoyBlue]

1) Pressing the WR's would give our front seven another second or so to get the the QB. For Ware, another second could result in 1-2 more sacks/game.

I would like to see more of it too. Can you disguise a "press"? LOL

I would like to see use it to disrupt timing of QB and WR

I can't give a definitive answer, but I can tell you that we press sometimes. Occasionally Newman comes up to press, and almost always when he's in the slot.

I'm thinking they want our guys to jump routes or whatever, or maybe read the QB more.

I like this idea/philosophy. I think we can accel at it.... but I would like to see us mix it up and not be predictable.

QB tells team in huddle.... "ok they are gonna give you a 10 yard cushion... here is the play"..... not good

 

[Wood]

you really put alot of pressure on Hamlin if Dallas were to press with Reeves. You need physical CB to effectively press.

 

[InmanRoshi]

Actually the most important characteristics in a press corner are hips and make up speed, because a press corner's game is turning and running. Sam Madison (5'11", 180 lbs) is a great example a protoype press corner, and he's very good at it. That's all he did at Miami, and he struggled mightily when he came to the Giants and they asked him to do other things.

 

[sacase]

Well I think part of it has to do with the secondary not having both its starting corners. I also think that part of it has to do with the recievers. With a press you give recievers a chance to beat you as soon as the ball is snapped. The reciever actually has the advantage when you are pressed since he can choose several different releases depending on the play.

 

[InmanRoshi]

I hope we never see Anthony Henry in press coverage.

 

[dcowboysfan76]

I hope we never see Anthony Henry in press coverage.

We haven't pressed because we haven't been healthy at the CB positions.....IMO........How many plays have we had with both of our starters in their regular positions LCB and RCB no slot? IMO, Henry is strong enough to press and with Hamlin over the top we are protected.....Newman has good enough speed to catch up if someone slaps his hands away or shoves him to the side..........so therefore maybe we will see it after the bye

 

[dallasfaniac]

We haven't pressed because we haven't been healthy at the CB positions.....IMO........How many plays have we had with both of our starters in their regular positions LCB and RCB no slot? IMO, Henry is strong enough to press and with Hamlin over the top we are protected.....Newman has good enough speed to catch up if someone slaps his hands away or shoves him to the side..........so therefore maybe we will see it after the bye

Even if Henry is strong enough and Hamlin can cover any mistakes, you are still taking away Henry's ability to jump the routes when they appear open.

 

[dcowboysfan76]

Even if Henry is strong enough and Hamlin can cover any mistakes, you are still taking away Henry's ability to jump the routes when they appear open.

True, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a QB's 1st read. Usually a QB knows before hand who he's going to attempt to throw the ball to. If Henry can press the WR good enough to disrupt the timing, our pass rush should be able to cause some havoc by pressuring the QB or causing a holding penalty....IMO

 

[InmanRoshi]

The jam at the line is not some awesome , unstoppable technique that can't be negated. If you've ever been to a training camp, you'll see WR's working on drills for 15-20 minutes at a time working on hand techniques that nullify the jam at the line. Typically, WR's can't even get on the field until they've learned how to beat press coverage, because it's basic NFL 101. Against a WR who knows what he's doing, the jam at the line is either completely useless or does more harm than good as often as it's effective. Unless you can turn and run with a WR step for step when the jam doesn't work, it's a horrible technique to use and will give up a ton of big plays.

 

[rathalarge]

We haven't pressed because we haven't been healthy at the CB positions.....IMO........How many plays have we had with both of our starters in their regular positions LCB and RCB no slot? IMO, Henry is strong enough to press and with Hamlin over the top we are protected.....Newman has good enough speed to catch up if someone slaps his hands away or shoves him to the side..........so therefore maybe we will see it after the bye

Seems to me that over the years when the Cowboys used "press coverage", they do not get their hands on the receivers, they just really man up close to the line of scrimmage and run with them. That's why there are so many passes completed, with our corners right there, but not knocking down enough balls or getting picks. Even with re-routing the reciver a little bit, I believe we woiuld really see our Cb's with a lot mote INT's.

 

[dallasfaniac]

True, but I'm thinking more along the lines of a QB's 1st read. Usually a QB knows before hand who he's going to attempt to throw the ball to. If Henry can press the WR good enough to disrupt the timing, our pass rush should be able to cause some havoc by pressuring the QB or causing a holding penalty....IMO

But if Henry plays off and those that can press do, then the QB may be more inclined to throw it against Henry, who then jumps the route and laterals backward to Ware for the TD in place of his missed sack. Presto.

 

[dcowboysfan76]

But if Henry plays off and those that can press do, then the QB may be more inclined to throw it against Henry, who then jumps the route and laterals backward to Ware for the TD in place of his missed sack. Presto.

LOL!! I like Henry's instinct, he reads routes well kind of like Everson Walls back in the day........Not a fast player, but an instinctive player