Why I think the Cowboys kept Bill Callahan

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It's quite possible that Monte Kiffin is still on the Dallas coaching staff because of Rod Marinelli's wishes and accepting or rejecting the defensive coordinator job.

With that being said, if the Cowboys would've allowed Bill Callahan to go to Cleveland or Baltimore as the OC, I believe that Frank Pollack would have followed him. The Cowboys were more afraid of losing Pollack, and not so much Callahan.

It's pretty apparent that the running game (when committed to) and the offensive line progressed in 2013, and I believe it was mainly because of Pollack.

Thoughts?
 

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It's quite possible that Monte Kiffin is still on the Dallas coaching staff because of Rod Marinelli's wishes and accepting or rejecting the defensive coordinator job.

With that being said, if the Cowboys would've allowed Bill Callahan to go to Cleveland or Baltimore as the OC, I believe that Frank Pollack would have followed him. The Cowboys were more afraid of losing Pollack, and not so much Callahan.

It's pretty apparent that the running game (when committed to) and the offensive line progressed in 2013, and I believe it was mainly because of Pollack.

Thoughts?

Possible.

I still think it is a mistake to force an employee to stay that doesn't want to. I have seen situations like that in the workplace and it never ends up well.
 

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I can see that, I understand Kiffin staying because of Marinelli but didn't understand Callahan.
 

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It's quite possible that Monte Kiffin is still on the Dallas coaching staff because of Rod Marinelli's wishes and accepting or rejecting the defensive coordinator job.

With that being said, if the Cowboys would've allowed Bill Callahan to go to Cleveland or Baltimore as the OC, I believe that Frank Pollack would have followed him. The Cowboys were more afraid of losing Pollack, and not so much Callahan.

It's pretty apparent that the running game (when committed to) and the offensive line progressed in 2013, and I believe it was mainly because of Pollack.

Thoughts?

Interesting theory, but I do not think Pollack has any sort of real deep allegiance to Callahan, at least like how Marinelli does to Kiffin. He was coached by Callahan, but I think that is it and it is not like he got his first real break thanks to him.

I just think Jones kept Callahan out of simple fear.
 

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Interesting theory, but I do not think Pollack has any sort of real deep allegiance to Callahan, at least like how Marinelli does to Kiffin. He was coached by Callahan, but I think that is it and it is not like he got his first real break thanks to him.

I just think Jones kept Callahan out of simple fear.

That's possible as well, but maybe Callahan would've wanted to bring some of "his guys" to Cleveland or Baltimore. Callahan brought Pollack in last year after Bill received the promotion to OC in Dallas.
 

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Its because Jerry intends on clearing out all the losers once 2014 inevitably circlea the drain.
 

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It's quite possible that Monte Kiffin is still on the Dallas coaching staff because of Rod Marinelli's wishes and accepting or rejecting the defensive coordinator job.

With that being said, if the Cowboys would've allowed Bill Callahan to go to Cleveland or Baltimore as the OC, I believe that Frank Pollack would have followed him. The Cowboys were more afraid of losing Pollack, and not so much Callahan.

It's pretty apparent that the running game (when committed to) and the offensive line progressed in 2013, and I believe it was mainly because of Pollack.

Thoughts?

More likely they didn't want to mess with OL which is just starting to play well. Look at what happened with they asked Free to change his footwork when Callihan took over. It took him an entire season to adjust.
 

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Interesting theory, but I do not think Pollack has any sort of real deep allegiance to Callahan, at least like how Marinelli does to Kiffin. He was coached by Callahan, but I think that is it and it is not like he got his first real break thanks to him.

I just think Jones kept Callahan out of simple fear.

Plus he could just block Pollack from leaving if this were the case.
 

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Plus he could just block Pollack from leaving if this were the case.

Which I am sure he would if he could. Not sure if that would be possible if he were offered a position above his current title of "assistant OL coach".
 

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I think the offensive line improved because it had better players.

I actually don't think anyone on the line needs to be "upgraded", but I would agree that some quality starting depth needs to be drafted somewhere in rounds 2-4.
 

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Pollack seemingly made a difference in one year with the offensive line. I do want to keep him badly. Especially after you read/hear about the blocking scheme we use being tricky (from opposing defenses in a somewhat recent article). I wouldn't want to start over with a new offensive line block scheme.
 

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I think the offensive line improved because it had better players.

Aside from Frederick, the same players were in place. While time working with the scheme certainly helped, Pollack brought first hand coaching tips from Alex Gibbs, who has been far more effective getting more with less with the scheme over the years than Callahan, who needed multiple high draft picks in New York before it gelled.
 

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It's quite possible that Monte Kiffin is still on the Dallas coaching staff because of Rod Marinelli's wishes and accepting or rejecting the defensive coordinator job.

With that being said, if the Cowboys would've allowed Bill Callahan to go to Cleveland or Baltimore as the OC, I believe that Frank Pollack would have followed him. The Cowboys were more afraid of losing Pollack, and not so much Callahan.

It's pretty apparent that the running game (when committed to) and the offensive line progressed in 2013, and I believe it was mainly because of Pollack.

Thoughts?

That makes no sense. If Jerry can block Callahan from leaving, he can block Pollack from leaving.

Also, why would Pollack want to leave? He would be getting promoted to OL coach from assistant OL coach. Who would want to move from Dallas to Cleveland for an equivalent job?

I'm not seeing where they overlapped with any other teams:

Frank Pollack:
As player:
As coach:
Bill Callahan:
Team(s) as a player
1975–1978 Benedictine
Team(s) as a coach/administrator
1980–1986
1987–1988
1989
1990–1994
1995–1997
1998–2001
2002–2003
2004–2007
2008–2011
2012–present Illinois (assistant) Northern Arizona (OL) Southern Illinois (OC) Wisconsin (OL) Philadelphia Eagles (OL) Oakland Raiders (OC)
Oakland Raiders Nebraska New York Jets (AHC/OL) Dallas Cowboys (OC/OL)
 
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Aside from Frederick, the same players were in place. While time working with the scheme certainly helped, Pollack brought first hand coaching tips from Alex Gibbs, who has been far more effective getting more with less with the scheme over the years than Callahan, who needed multiple high draft picks in New York before it gelled.

Frederick was a huge upgrade over Costa. Tyron had a year under his belt playing LT. Leary was ready to play in the league. Waters was better while he played.

I don't think coaching has anything to do with the improvement. Hudson Houck was a good OL coach. He had no talent to work with.
 

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That makes no sense. If Jerry can block Callahan from leaving, he can block Pollack from leaving.

Also, why would Pollack want to leave? He would be getting promoted to OL coach from assistant OL coach. Who would want to move from Dallas to Cleveland for an equivalent job?

I'm not seeing where they overlapped with any other teams:

Frank Pollack:
As player:
As coach:
Bill Callahan:
Team(s) as a player
1975–1978 Benedictine
Team(s) as a coach/administrator
1980–1986
1987–1988
1989
1990–1994
1995–1997
1998–2001
2002–2003
2004–2007
2008–2011
2012–present Illinois (assistant) Northern Arizona (OL) Southern Illinois (OC) Wisconsin (OL) Philadelphia Eagles (OL) Oakland Raiders (OC)
Oakland Raiders NebraskaNew York Jets (AHC/OL) Dallas Cowboys (OC/OL)

It's possible that the Browns or Ravens would've given Pollack a "promotion," such as assistant head coach and so forth. You can give a coach a promotion via a new title, but in essence his responsibilities remain the same. They're loopholes around these things IMO...
 

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It's possible that the Browns or Ravens would've given Pollack a "promotion," such as assistant head coach and so forth. You can give a coach a promotion via a new title, but in essence his responsibilities remain the same. They're loopholes around these things IMO...

The NFL eliminated the loopholes in terms of promotions. The only move that a coach under contract can make without permission from his current team is to become a Head Coach.
 

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The NFL eliminated the loopholes in terms of promotions. The only move that a coach under contract can make without permission from his current team is to become a Head Coach.

Interesting. I didn't know that.
 

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It's possible that the Browns or Ravens would've given Pollack a "promotion," such as assistant head coach and so forth. You can give a coach a promotion via a new title, but in essence his responsibilities remain the same. They're loopholes around these things IMO...

That rule no longer applies. Its only if you are being promoted to HC not OC or assistant HC. Just HC
 
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