Why I think we win in Oakland

Do we want to get in a shoot out with the raiders? In the past I would have said no This season ..... I say bring it on.

Now normally, I would prefer JJ get his 100 yds......play ball control.etc.........

The 2005 O can score.....we have the QB, the running game, Witten, Glenn, Johnson, Price, Crayton.......Again I say bring it on Raiders.
 
kartr said:
Our best test so far will be how we play on the road against a desperate Oakland team that's winless, but playing everybody close.

It is a tough test. Offensively the Raiders are scary. Defensively they're solid against the run. Sounds like the formula for a shoot out. Pity we don't have Quincy Carter so we could air it out.:laugh2:
 
DLCassidy said:
It is a tough test. Offensively the Raiders are scary. Defensively they're solid against the run. Sounds like the formula for a shoot out. Pity we don't have Quincy Carter so we could air it out.:laugh2:

We'd probably have to air Quincy out first.
 
i'd take advantage of the raiders olb'ers... they are pathetically slow. jj and short passes to witten could be the easiest thing to do and eat up the clock.
 
kartr said:
Not to be a wet blanket, but the teams we beat are 28th and 32nd against the pass.

Uhh .. they are 28th and 32nd partly because they played against and got burned by the Cowboys receivers. Give our team a bit more props than that.
 
bula said:
Uhh .. they are 28th and 32nd partly because they played against and got burned by the Cowboys receivers. Give our team a bit more props than that.
Nice point. It will be totally ignored.
 
If we were 3-0, we would be the toast of the town.

The only way we garner any respect during this season is if we beat Philly in week 5.
 
silverbear said:
Guess you haven't checked the Faiders' pass defense rating lately...

They're next to last... giving up a nice even 300 yards per game...

So, if your theory is that we can only beat teams with bad pass defenses (a theory I reject, if only because we haven't really faced anybody with a good pass defense-- including the Skins-- yet, so we don't know how we'll deal with such a defense), then it should logically follow that the Faiders would be easy pickings for us, right??



And NOBODY screws up more than the Faiders these days, tied for the league lead in penalties, with a nice even dozen a game, and leading the league in penalty yards with 109 yards a game...

Once again, your argument actually seems to be an argument in favor of the Cowboys winning... besides, you don't reckon that maybe, just maybe, the Cowboys had something to do with those "red zone screw-ups", do you?? Is it your argument that we only won those games because the Niners and Chargers GAVE them to us??



Actually, from everything I've read, Parcells really likes his team... thinks they have character...



Now that's just a completely bogus argument, inasmuch as he was playing with a totally different team LAST YEAR... THIS year, he's already had one pretty fair ballgame against what is generally regarded as a strong defense (they're currently ranked 3rd in the NFL)... even if his team lost the game, he played rather well... or don't you consider a quarterback rating over 90, with no turnovers and a YPA average of 7.3, to be a pretty solid game??

I hope you'll excuse me when I say I think you ARE trying to be a wet blanket... or more accurately, you're being quite the little defeatist these days...

Courage, Camille...

I think Bledsoe will do well against the Raiders because their pass defense is bad, I don't think he will do well against the Panthers or Eagles because their defense is good. I never said he wouldn't do well against the Raiders. Against the Commanders he only got us 13 points because he missed a number of reads and made bad throws despite little or no blitzing. But I forget, since his name is not Carter, it's the coaches fault for being too conservative.
 
DLCassidy said:
It is a tough test. Offensively the Raiders are scary. Defensively they're solid against the run. Sounds like the formula for a shoot out. Pity we don't have Quincy Carter so we could air it out.:laugh2:

You seem to forget that Quincy had several 200 plus yard games with lesser receivers, running backs and Kurt Vollers at right tackle. You also seem to forget he played against defenses such as the Bills,Pats,Dolphins,Eagles twice,Panthers. He didn't get the easy defenses that Bledsoe will this year. You also seem to forget that he beat both Vinny and Bledsoe head-to-head, oh and let's see,C-Mart > Hambrick and Travis Henry > Hambrick. With a third consecutive year in this offense and against weak defenses(2005), yes he would it air it out quite well.
 
Portland Fanatic said:
We need to NOT turn the ball over in enemy territory like we did with the Niners...

Two picks
Fumble
Fake punt

That's 4 times turning the ball over with great field position...OAK has to much fire power if we give them a short field all night. We need to pin them deep evey chance we can.

word!
 
cobra said:
Actually that is exactly what he wants to be.

He is desperate to make it look like a fluke that our offense has been playing like it does. He has a vested interest in downplaying the positive play of Drew Bledsoe because if it becomes obvious what can be done with a real quarterback, then he will eventually have to face the reality that the worthless piece of garbage (Carter) that he is constantly propping up failed because of his abilities and not some other explanation.

Carter has a winning record against Bledsoe, so if he is garbage, what does that make Bledsoe. Bledsoe can't beat the good teams, that's why he is here. How does that make him a 'real qb'. Bledsoe hasn't got a team to the playoffs in years, but if he does this year, it'll be because of a schedule chocked with soft defenses, not his play-making skills. Bledsoe would never have qb'ed the 2003 team to the playoffs, cause there were too many defensive heavy-weights on that schedule. Why do you think that people feel that Matt Hassellbeck(sp) regressed last year? He played almost the identical schedule that we did in 2003, and even with a franchise back like Alexander, he still struggled. He didn't play poorly against last year, because our defense was crap, but he struggled mightily with Tampa, the Pats and the like.


Back to Bledsoe, everyone says that if we can protect him he'll do well, but our line didn't protect Carter very well and he still won games, including some dramatic comebacks. He was 13-10 from 2002 thru 2003 in regular season games, and most of games were against teams with tough defenses and/or against teams who been to the playoffs/superbowl recently. There were no Emitts or Irvins or Novaceks to prop him up either.
 
kartr said:
But I forget, since his name is not Carter, it's the coaches fault for being too conservative.

Why does everything turn into a "Quincy Carter got screwed" thing with you? He was a mediocre player that tossed out any chance he had by being stupid! Bledsoe has thrown for over 40,000 yards in his career! QC would never in his dreams have done that! The dude is gone! Out of football! The Jets didn't even try him! They brought back Vinnie, for Pete's sake! Do you really believe you know talent better than every GM in football?

Get over your love affair with Carter and quit trolling. Bledsoe is our QB, and a damn fine one at that.
 
kartr said:
Carter has a winning record against Bledsoe, so if he is garbage, what does that make Bledsoe. Bledsoe can't beat the good teams, that's why he is here. How does that make him a 'real qb'. Bledsoe hasn't got a team to the playoffs in years, but if he does this year, it'll be because of a schedule chocked with soft defenses, not his play-making skills. Bledsoe would never have qb'ed the 2003 team to the playoffs, cause there were too many defensive heavy-weights on that schedule.

C'mon dude, seriously. That '03 season basically had nothing to do with Carter. Our defense held the opponents offense to 16 or less points 10 times.

In the like 30 starts QC had, I think we won 1 game when the opponent scored more than 21 points. We've already done that twice under Bledsoe.

We only scored 4 offensive TD's one time in Carters 30 starts. We've already done that in one of Bledoses starts. We've also scored 5 offensive TD's in one of Bledsoes 3 starts. Something we never did with Carter at the helm.

These things cant be overlooked when we're comparing 30 starts to 3 even in taking different supporting cast players/coaches into consideration.
 

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