Why is the 59th ranked player still available?
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ejthedj;1478413 said:
You want him but dont know the scoop on him,?
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Wouldn't be a bad pick-up at this point. Couldn't be any worse than Reeves or Jones (not intended to be a knock on either player). Give the kid a chance to see if he can beat one of them out. However, I'm not sure he'll be there when we pick.
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Maybe the height is an issue...
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David IronsHeight: 5-10
Weight: 188
Position: Cornerback
College: Auburn
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OVERVIEW
While the Irons family is not as recognizable as the Mannings -- Archie, Peyton and Eli -- they do boast a long history of relatives who have excelled at the collegiate and professional football levels over the years. David's father, David Sr., works with sports agent Pat Dye Jr. His brother, Kenny, was a teammate and standout running back at Auburn.
David's uncle, Grant, was a starting defensive end at Notre Dame and presently plays for the Oakland Raiders. Grant's brother, Jarrett, was a Michigan All-America linebacker and captain of the Wolverines in 1996. Grant's other brother, Gerald Jr., played football at Nebraska as a defensive lineman. Their father, Gerald Sr., played at Maryland-Eastern Shore, then spent six years with the Oakland Raiders and four with the Cleveland Browns as a linebacker.
Like his brother, Kenny, David was a standout running back at Dacula High School. The PrepStar All-American was a member of SuperPrep's Georgia Top 30 team, despite missing three games with a knee injury as a senior. He ran for 700 yards and 10 touchdown and caught 15 passes for 204 yards, including two scores that year.
As a junior, Irons rushed for 1,349 yards and 18 touchdowns while leading Dacula to an 11-2 record. He gained 247 yards on just nine carries and four scores in one game that year. He also caught 19 passes for more than 300 yards and six touchdowns. He lettered on the school's track team, capturing the region championships in the 200-meter and 400-meter dashes as a junior.
After graduating from high school, Irons sat out the 2001 season to have his left knee anterior cruciate ligament repaired. He then enrolled at Butler County Community College in 2002, where he started 11 regular season games at cornerback. He posted 45 tackles (39 solos) with two interceptions, 11 pass deflections and two forced fumbles, earning All-Kansas Jayhawk Community College Conference second-team honors.
Irons was a first-team all-conference selection at Butler College in 2003. In 12 games, he delivered 59 tackles (46 solos) with two stops for losses. He blocked three kicks, had three interceptions and nine pass break-ups. Irons then enrolled at Auburn in January 2004 but spent the season on the sidelines after undergoing further surgery on his left knee.
Irons finally got on the field for the Tigers in 2005. He earned Associated Press second-team All-Southeastern Conference honors while starting 11 games at left cornerback. He sat out the Ball State game with a bruised tailbone, but still produced 48 tackles (36 solos) with two stops behind the line of scrimmage. He also deflected 11 passes. Irons was named Rivals.com All-American second team in 2006. He started all 13 games at left cornerback, coming up with 42 tackles (23 solos) and a forced fumble, adding three more tackles on special teams. He was credited with three stops behind the line of scrimmage and 12 pass break-ups. He also picked off a pair of passes. Irons started all 24 games he played in for Auburn. He recorded 90 tackles (59 solos) with 5½ stops for losses of 20 yards. He caused one fumble and posted three special team tackles. He intercepted two passes and collected 23 pass deflections.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a compact frame with a tight midsection, V-shaped torso, thick chest and arm muscle development and excellent timed speed … Feisty, physical tackler who will surprise an opponent with the power he generates from his small frame (not really strong, but knows how to torque and put full force behind his hits) … Won't back down from the bigger blockers and competes until the whistle … Has excellent foot speed and flexibility, coming out of his breaks with the burst to stay right on the hip of the receiver … Lacks ideal change-of-direction agility (knee issues), but is very effective at making plays in front of him … Willingly challenges receivers to test his speed on deep routes … Is quick to read keys and diagnose plays, showing no hesitation closing on the ball … Best when he's facing the ball rather than his back to it, showing the short-area burst to close … Very active with his hands in attempts to press and reroute the receiver … Gets a good break on the ball and has the second straight-line gear to recover … Even vs. taller receivers, he knows how to mirror and impede the route's progression by getting his hands on the receiver's hip to push off without getting caught … Type of man coverage defender who rests in the "back pocket" of his opponent, frustrating receivers by not allowing any room for them to operate, especially in tight areas … Needs backpedal refinement (fails to stay in it), but is effective coming out of his breaks because of his explosive burst … Can flip his hips and break back for the ball, but needs to work on planting his feet better … Best when playing in man coverage, as his size sometimes gets him lost in zone assignments (lacks awareness and a feel in that coverage) … When he sees the ball, he is quick to get in position to make the play … Has good hands to snatch or deflect the pass … Showed good improvement in using his speed effectively to recover when he is caught out of position (was slow to get back in the action in 2005, possibly due to recovering from knee surgery) … Even though he gives up several inches to most receivers, he has great timing and judgment, contorting his frame to get to the ball at its high point … Shows good explosion behind his elevation and does a nice job of adjusting his body to get under the ball … Shows adequate ability to get his head turned around to track the ball … Not a natural hands catcher, but works his frame well to reach around or over to deflect the pass … Needs to stay in control flying to the ball in run force, but will generate good pop on contact … Physical striker who needs to break down better, but gets the ball carrier down with his low-cut hitting ability … When he opens his hips properly, he can flash to the ball in an instant … When facing up vs. the large offensive linemen, he puts himself in position to occupy the opponent, thus allowing another teammate to get free and make the play. Negatives: Packs a punch behind his hits, yet has only marginal strength … Even with his lean muscle tone, his frame appears small and light … Two major surgeries on his left knee brings up durability issues and further medical evaluation is advisable … Best when making plays in front of him, as he struggles some when having his back to the ball (will try to eye the backfield and the receiver is then able to slip past him) … Uses more of a shuffle technique in his backpedal, and while he has the speed to compensate, he fails to plant and drive cleanly, making him look choppy in transition … Will let the ball into his body too much and needs to extend and catch outside his frame (marginal as a pass thief) … Plays with good urgency, but tends to get reckless in his play (takes illegal swipes at the receiver), resulting in costly penalties … Better tackler in closed quarters, as he will ankle-bite and duck his head in the open, allowing the opponent to bounce off his tackles (needs to wrap and secure with better consistency) … Not an effective blitzer, as he lacks the bulk to prevent from getting engulfed working at the line … Times his leaps well, but bigger receivers have been effective at shielding him from the ball (results in penalties when he tries to grab for the pass) … Will fly to the ball, but would be more efficient if he had a better understanding of pursuit angles. Compares To: Aaron Glenn, Dallas Cowboys … Irons knows he lacks room on his frame to get bigger, but like Glenn he is a feisty player who can pester a receiver to frustration … He is best when making plays in front of him, but struggles when the ball is behind him … He lacks hands to be much of a pass thief, but his elevation and timing lets him get to most balls at its high point … His knee surgeries might see his stock slip a bit on draft day, even though he appeared to be on his way to full recovery with his improved play in 2006.
INJURY REPORT
2000: Missed three games of his high school senior year with a left knee injury.
2001: Did not attend college, undergoing surgery to repair a left knee torn anterior cruciate ligament. 2004: Missed the entire season to again repair anterior cruciate ligament damage in his left knee. 2005: Suffered a bruised tailbone in practice (Sept. 12) that forced him to sit out the Ball State game (Sept. 17).
AGILITY TESTSCampus: 4.46 in the 40-yard dash … 280-pound bench press … 303-pound power clean … 31½-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-6 broad jump … 31 1/8-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands … Right-handed. Combine: 4.54 in the 40-yard dash … 1.67 10-yard dash … 2.67 20-yard dash … 4.3 20-yard shuttle … 11.67 60-yard shuttle … 7.18 three-cone drill … Bench pressed 225 pounds 11 times.
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Weight: 188
Position: Cornerback
College: Auburn
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OVERVIEW
While the Irons family is not as recognizable as the Mannings -- Archie, Peyton and Eli -- they do boast a long history of relatives who have excelled at the collegiate and professional football levels over the years. David's father, David Sr., works with sports agent Pat Dye Jr. His brother, Kenny, was a teammate and standout running back at Auburn.
David's uncle, Grant, was a starting defensive end at Notre Dame and presently plays for the Oakland Raiders. Grant's brother, Jarrett, was a Michigan All-America linebacker and captain of the Wolverines in 1996. Grant's other brother, Gerald Jr., played football at Nebraska as a defensive lineman. Their father, Gerald Sr., played at Maryland-Eastern Shore, then spent six years with the Oakland Raiders and four with the Cleveland Browns as a linebacker.
Like his brother, Kenny, David was a standout running back at Dacula High School. The PrepStar All-American was a member of SuperPrep's Georgia Top 30 team, despite missing three games with a knee injury as a senior. He ran for 700 yards and 10 touchdown and caught 15 passes for 204 yards, including two scores that year.
As a junior, Irons rushed for 1,349 yards and 18 touchdowns while leading Dacula to an 11-2 record. He gained 247 yards on just nine carries and four scores in one game that year. He also caught 19 passes for more than 300 yards and six touchdowns. He lettered on the school's track team, capturing the region championships in the 200-meter and 400-meter dashes as a junior.
After graduating from high school, Irons sat out the 2001 season to have his left knee anterior cruciate ligament repaired. He then enrolled at Butler County Community College in 2002, where he started 11 regular season games at cornerback. He posted 45 tackles (39 solos) with two interceptions, 11 pass deflections and two forced fumbles, earning All-Kansas Jayhawk Community College Conference second-team honors.
Irons was a first-team all-conference selection at Butler College in 2003. In 12 games, he delivered 59 tackles (46 solos) with two stops for losses. He blocked three kicks, had three interceptions and nine pass break-ups. Irons then enrolled at Auburn in January 2004 but spent the season on the sidelines after undergoing further surgery on his left knee.
Irons finally got on the field for the Tigers in 2005. He earned Associated Press second-team All-Southeastern Conference honors while starting 11 games at left cornerback. He sat out the Ball State game with a bruised tailbone, but still produced 48 tackles (36 solos) with two stops behind the line of scrimmage. He also deflected 11 passes. Irons was named Rivals.com All-American second team in 2006. He started all 13 games at left cornerback, coming up with 42 tackles (23 solos) and a forced fumble, adding three more tackles on special teams. He was credited with three stops behind the line of scrimmage and 12 pass break-ups. He also picked off a pair of passes. Irons started all 24 games he played in for Auburn. He recorded 90 tackles (59 solos) with 5½ stops for losses of 20 yards. He caused one fumble and posted three special team tackles. He intercepted two passes and collected 23 pass deflections.
ANALYSIS
Positives: Has a compact frame with a tight midsection, V-shaped torso, thick chest and arm muscle development and excellent timed speed … Feisty, physical tackler who will surprise an opponent with the power he generates from his small frame (not really strong, but knows how to torque and put full force behind his hits) … Won't back down from the bigger blockers and competes until the whistle … Has excellent foot speed and flexibility, coming out of his breaks with the burst to stay right on the hip of the receiver … Lacks ideal change-of-direction agility (knee issues), but is very effective at making plays in front of him … Willingly challenges receivers to test his speed on deep routes … Is quick to read keys and diagnose plays, showing no hesitation closing on the ball … Best when he's facing the ball rather than his back to it, showing the short-area burst to close … Very active with his hands in attempts to press and reroute the receiver … Gets a good break on the ball and has the second straight-line gear to recover … Even vs. taller receivers, he knows how to mirror and impede the route's progression by getting his hands on the receiver's hip to push off without getting caught … Type of man coverage defender who rests in the "back pocket" of his opponent, frustrating receivers by not allowing any room for them to operate, especially in tight areas … Needs backpedal refinement (fails to stay in it), but is effective coming out of his breaks because of his explosive burst … Can flip his hips and break back for the ball, but needs to work on planting his feet better … Best when playing in man coverage, as his size sometimes gets him lost in zone assignments (lacks awareness and a feel in that coverage) … When he sees the ball, he is quick to get in position to make the play … Has good hands to snatch or deflect the pass … Showed good improvement in using his speed effectively to recover when he is caught out of position (was slow to get back in the action in 2005, possibly due to recovering from knee surgery) … Even though he gives up several inches to most receivers, he has great timing and judgment, contorting his frame to get to the ball at its high point … Shows good explosion behind his elevation and does a nice job of adjusting his body to get under the ball … Shows adequate ability to get his head turned around to track the ball … Not a natural hands catcher, but works his frame well to reach around or over to deflect the pass … Needs to stay in control flying to the ball in run force, but will generate good pop on contact … Physical striker who needs to break down better, but gets the ball carrier down with his low-cut hitting ability … When he opens his hips properly, he can flash to the ball in an instant … When facing up vs. the large offensive linemen, he puts himself in position to occupy the opponent, thus allowing another teammate to get free and make the play. Negatives: Packs a punch behind his hits, yet has only marginal strength … Even with his lean muscle tone, his frame appears small and light … Two major surgeries on his left knee brings up durability issues and further medical evaluation is advisable … Best when making plays in front of him, as he struggles some when having his back to the ball (will try to eye the backfield and the receiver is then able to slip past him) … Uses more of a shuffle technique in his backpedal, and while he has the speed to compensate, he fails to plant and drive cleanly, making him look choppy in transition … Will let the ball into his body too much and needs to extend and catch outside his frame (marginal as a pass thief) … Plays with good urgency, but tends to get reckless in his play (takes illegal swipes at the receiver), resulting in costly penalties … Better tackler in closed quarters, as he will ankle-bite and duck his head in the open, allowing the opponent to bounce off his tackles (needs to wrap and secure with better consistency) … Not an effective blitzer, as he lacks the bulk to prevent from getting engulfed working at the line … Times his leaps well, but bigger receivers have been effective at shielding him from the ball (results in penalties when he tries to grab for the pass) … Will fly to the ball, but would be more efficient if he had a better understanding of pursuit angles. Compares To: Aaron Glenn, Dallas Cowboys … Irons knows he lacks room on his frame to get bigger, but like Glenn he is a feisty player who can pester a receiver to frustration … He is best when making plays in front of him, but struggles when the ball is behind him … He lacks hands to be much of a pass thief, but his elevation and timing lets him get to most balls at its high point … His knee surgeries might see his stock slip a bit on draft day, even though he appeared to be on his way to full recovery with his improved play in 2006.
INJURY REPORT
2000: Missed three games of his high school senior year with a left knee injury.
2001: Did not attend college, undergoing surgery to repair a left knee torn anterior cruciate ligament. 2004: Missed the entire season to again repair anterior cruciate ligament damage in his left knee. 2005: Suffered a bruised tailbone in practice (Sept. 12) that forced him to sit out the Ball State game (Sept. 17).
AGILITY TESTSCampus: 4.46 in the 40-yard dash … 280-pound bench press … 303-pound power clean … 31½-inch vertical jump … 9-foot-6 broad jump … 31 1/8-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands … Right-handed. Combine: 4.54 in the 40-yard dash … 1.67 10-yard dash … 2.67 20-yard dash … 4.3 20-yard shuttle … 11.67 60-yard shuttle … 7.18 three-cone drill … Bench pressed 225 pounds 11 times.
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Didn't he score a 4 or 5 on the wonderlic? The guys on the ticket were discussing that last night.
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I'd rather go with one of these corners from Baylor
good size/special teams
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C.J. WilsonHeight: 6-1
Weight: 195Position: Cornerback/Free Safety
College: Baylor
Campus: 4.53 in the 40-yard dash … 275-pound bench press … Bench pressed 225 pounds 12 times … 379-pound squat … 274-pound power clean … 32½-inch vertical jump … 32-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands … Right-handed. Combine: 4.63 in the 40-yard dash … 1.63 10-yard dash … 2.7 20-yard dash … 4.2 20-yard shuttle … 11.3 60-yard shuttle … 6.81 three-cone drill … 37½-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-7 broad jump.
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Anthony ArlineHeight: 6-2
Weight: 199Position: Cornerback/Free Safety
College: Baylor
Positives: Rare size for the position … Good agility despite his size and flashes potential as both a man and zone defender … Played opposite a more proven cornerback in C.J. Wilson at Baylor and held up well … Legitimate upside … Helped himself with a strong week of practice and game at the Hula Bowl. Negatives: Flashes upside, but has failed to take the next step … Lacks consistency from play to play … More quick than fast … Sometimes seems resigned to allowing the reception and making the tackle rather than aggressively playing the ball … Despite size, doesn't offer much in terms of run support.
good size/special teams
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Weight: 195Position: Cornerback/Free Safety
College: Baylor
Campus: 4.53 in the 40-yard dash … 275-pound bench press … Bench pressed 225 pounds 12 times … 379-pound squat … 274-pound power clean … 32½-inch vertical jump … 32-inch arm length … 9 1/8-inch hands … Right-handed. Combine: 4.63 in the 40-yard dash … 1.63 10-yard dash … 2.7 20-yard dash … 4.2 20-yard shuttle … 11.3 60-yard shuttle … 6.81 three-cone drill … 37½-inch vertical jump … 10-foot-7 broad jump.
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Weight: 199Position: Cornerback/Free Safety
College: Baylor
Positives: Rare size for the position … Good agility despite his size and flashes potential as both a man and zone defender … Played opposite a more proven cornerback in C.J. Wilson at Baylor and held up well … Legitimate upside … Helped himself with a strong week of practice and game at the Hula Bowl. Negatives: Flashes upside, but has failed to take the next step … Lacks consistency from play to play … More quick than fast … Sometimes seems resigned to allowing the reception and making the tackle rather than aggressively playing the ball … Despite size, doesn't offer much in terms of run support.