Why isn't pressure creating more turnovers?

ghst187

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It happens nearly every game and esp when we play against the skins....
we are in the QBs face every time he drops back but then he casually side-steps our player and flips an easy pass for a third down conversion. I know our D isn't giving up a lot of points and its really playing great so i'm not downing them, it just seems like generate a ton of pressure that is not equating to the bad throw/INT that usually, eventually follows. This game was a perfect example. We blitzed seemingly every passing down and although we were in Campbell's face he made most of the throws anyway. At one point he was like 10 of 10 passing on third down, many didn't go for first downs but still, our only INT was off a tipped pass. Seems like we make Campbell (as well as a bunch of other mediocre QBs) look like a decent QB every time we play him. Normally, when a team gets that much pressure, the QB throws one right to us (like Delhomme did to TNew earlier this season), that doesn't seem to happen as often as it should. All this to say, why isn't our pressure creating more TOs?

Couple of theories...
1) We just not making the plays on the ball and catching the INTs when we have the chance
2) Our scheme is based largely on winning one-on-one matchups which we don't always win
3) Our scheme is too simplistic or easy to read, we hardly ever fake the blitz and its always abundantly evident when we are blitzing
4) Campbell is a good QB (just kidding)

I'm leaning towards a combo of 1-3 but I'd love to hear what others think....
 

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Cambell is one of those QBs that just doesn't care if he gets hit. If he didn't basically suck he'd be great.
 

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Well, you got one to win the game today.

Allan Ball missed a pick when he wasn't looking for the ball.
 

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#1 Campo has them playing the wr and not the ball
#2 they're not that good
 

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QB's dont even seem fazed by our pressure sometimes. Guys are so wide open because of the cream puff zones at times, that its still easy to make completions.

Our defense made Campbell look like a real NFL QB, again.
 

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Rampage;3094556 said:
#1 Campo has them playing the wr and not the ball
#2 they're not that good

hmmm, good ones. :bang2:
 

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dbair1967;3094565 said:
QB's dont even seem fazed by our pressure sometimes. Guys are so wide open because of the cream puff zones at times, that its still easy to make completions.

Our defense made Campbell look like a real NFL QB, again.

I thought he looked worse today than he has in 3 games.

They didnt even sniff A TD and you are bagging on the defense? Count me in as confused.
 

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theebs;3094599 said:
I thought he looked worse today than he has in 3 games.

They didnt even sniff A TD and you are bagging on the defense? Count me in as confused.

They've hardly sniffed tds against anybody this yr, we didnt slam the door on the 1984 Dolphins today. It was a BAD football team missing a number of key guys, and playing with a patchwork OL.

Campbell is medicore, yet the guy just went something like 12/12 or 13/13 throwing the ball on 3rd downs against our defense.
 

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dbair1967;3094617 said:
They've hardly sniffed tds against anybody this yr, we didnt slam the door on the 1984 Dolphins today. It was a BAD football team missing a number of key guys, and playing with a patchwork OL.

Campbell is medicore, yet the guy just went something like 12/12 or 13/13 throwing the ball on 3rd downs against our defense.
I still can't believe they didn't try to pick up the first down before the 50 yard field goal miss, they ran the ball up the middle for about a two yard loss on third down. Huge play.
 

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jimmy40;3094623 said:
I still can't believe they didn't try to pick up the first down before the 50 yard field goal miss, they ran the ball up the middle for about a two yard loss on third down. Huge play.

Yeah, talk about a really stupid play call.

They were playing pitch and catch on 3rd down all game, and they ran that crap?
 

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dbair1967;3094626 said:
Yeah, talk about a really stupid play call.

They were playing pitch and catch on 3rd down all game, and they ran that crap?

I couldn't believe it.
 

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Because our defense fold like a lawn chair on 3rd and long, which is when many TOs are supposed to happen.
 

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It is a combination of many things.

Soft zone
Pass rushers blowing by the QB
DBs having to cover too long
Lane discipline
DBs and LBs dropping the would be INTs
 

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dbair1967;3094617 said:
They've hardly sniffed tds against anybody this yr, we didnt slam the door on the 1984 Dolphins today. It was a BAD football team missing a number of key guys, and playing with a patchwork OL.

Campbell is medicore, yet the guy just went something like 12/12 or 13/13 throwing the ball on 3rd downs against our defense.

There are other things involved in football, like momentum and emotion.

The skins had field position most of the day because of their defenses strong play. Their offense never had to do anything. And they didnt. Campbell made two really good throws all day.

I cant believe someone who is always calling everyone else stupid is saying our defense didnt play well today. They closed the door everytime the skins started to mount a drive and pushed them back when they got in the redzone forcing longer field goals.

and for the whining about how they missed two field goals, we missed one and fumbled at the 12. pretty much evens that out.

This is a game we would have lost in the past. this game was very similar to the eagles game in december of 07, missed throws, dropped balls, a couple of turnovers and we lost that one late. Today we won it late.

These two games this week are all about winning them. Style means nothing. Get the two and then get ready for the season, which begins december 6th.

and again, for someone who is always calling everyone stupid, your blaming romo for all the passing games problems today is welll...whats the word I am looking for?
 

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dbair1967;3094626 said:
Yeah, talk about a really stupid play call.

They were playing pitch and catch on 3rd down all game, and they ran that crap?

You wanna bag on the offense? Than fine by me.

But this defense has been playing extremely well in a league where the offense has just about every significant advantage possible.


No Touchdowns todays. None.

Our defense did everything but score for the Offense today.
 

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theebs;3094654 said:
There are other things involved in football, like momentum and emotion.

there's also the fact one team limped in here with a ton of injuries, and had a couple more offensive guys go out during the game

The skins had field position most of the day because of their defenses strong play. Their offense never had to do anything. And they didnt. Campbell made two really good throws all day.

we held them without a TD, that was really good...we pretty much stopped the run except for a couple of plays...thats good...we still managed to let them roll up over 300 yds, convert almost half their 3rd dows, allow the other teams medicore QB to complete every 3rd down pass and only got a turnover because our DL tipped a ball at the end of the game...they rank at the botom of the league in almost everything offensively, I saw nothing to make me think we should be pounding our chest over that effort

I cant believe someone who is always calling everyone else stupid is saying our defense didnt play well today. They closed the door everytime the skins started to mount a drive and pushed them back when they got in the redzone forcing longer field goals.

hey we held a team that struggles to score tds without one...thats good

and for the whining about how they missed two field goals, we missed one and fumbled at the 12. pretty much evens that out.

guess you miss the point...it shouldnt have come down to that

This is a game we would have lost in the past. this game was very similar to the eagles game in december of 07, missed throws, dropped balls, a couple of turnovers and we lost that one late. Today we won it late.

I'd agree with that...except this team we beat today is really lousy

These two games this week are all about winning them. Style means nothing. Get the two and then get ready for the season, which begins december 6th.

It is all about wins and losses, but if you think for a freaking second that the kind of play we saw today and last sunday gets us anywhere most weeks, let alone against really good teams in December and January, you need to put down the bong

and again, for someone who is always calling everyone stupid, your blaming romo for all the passing games problems today is welll...whats the word I am looking for?

Romo was God-awful today, except for the final drive..it wasnt all his fault, but he played bad...maybe it was the back, but whatever it was he was poor

I didnt expect us to win by 6 tds...but I didnt expect us to struggle to get any pts for the 2nd staight game either
 

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How bout the defense lacks play makers. Ware and Ratliff are the only two consistent playmakers. Occasionally Jenkins and Sensabaugh.
 

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we dont have that pure pass rusher opposite ware;

till spencer steps it up another notch, it will be a slug fest for the rest of the games

spencer is slowly improving, but he must develop some pass rush moves besides the one pass rush move he has
 

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cowboyjoe;3094973 said:
we dont have that pure pass rusher opposite ware;

till spencer steps it up another notch, it will be a slug fest for the rest of the games

spencer is slowly improving, but he must develop some pass rush moves besides the one pass rush move he has

What about Victor Butler?
 
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That's easy... it's the Campo soft zone. The scheme works fine against teams that can't execute (like our's) because eventually they screw up and have to punt or kick a field goal. It does make lame QBs look like All-Pros though,,,
 
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