Why no love for Jeremy Langford

[BoysWin]

Key stat: Closed his career by rushing for more than 100 yards in 16 consecutive games against Big Ten opponents. Also rushed for 40 TDs over his last two seasons.

He has breakaway speed and great burst. The only other back that has ran so far that I have that has both qualities is Corey Grant.

Coleman and Gurley will probably slide in here as well.

Breakaway I calculated by looking at the time to get from 20-40. Burst is 10 yard time.

Scouting report on Langford says he is SOFT in between the tackles. The pick needs to be. Gurley Gordon Coleman Yeldon Dave Johnson Buck Allen Cam Artis-Payne

 

[SportsGuru80]

He's already 23

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

He's already 23

So?

This is a league where RB's are at their best from about 22-29. You draft him, he plays his rookie contract and then you move on to the next one.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I was surprised with that highlight reel, he has some toughness. Do I like others a little more, yes but I can see the attraction. Nice to see some new blood worthy of consideration.

As someone said, they SHOULD look great in their HIGHLIGHT videos. However, he does show power, speed and a little shiftiness, things which people are saying he doesn't have. I really like him as an option in the third. Would love him there if we got a starting CB and an impact DE/DT in the first two rounds.

 

[xwalker]

So?

This is a league where RB's are at their best from about 22-29. You draft him, he plays his rookie contract and then you move on to the next one.

Yes, if that makes him more ready than younger guys then that's a plus, IMO. I would only plan on a RB for 4 or 5 years anyway.

 

[Gaede]

Scouting report on Langford says he is SOFT in between the tackles. The pick needs to be. Gurley Gordon Coleman Yeldon Dave Johnson Buck Allen Cam Artis-Payne

I see the exact opposite. No way is he soft between the tackles

 

[BAT]

That's simply not true. I was a running back in college. Carrying the ball does slow you down a little, but never would I say that it slows one person down more than another.

Fast is fast, regardless. Endurance is the biggest factor that affects speed. A running back does it all, and it wears you out. You run the ball, taking hits. You block, you run routes. WR's run a lot, but they aren't taking the pounding. And they aren't in on as many plays.

Game speed and track speed does not always translate equally. Some backs slow down before making a move, the special ones do not gear down. There are really fast backs who don't have great vision or are slow through LOS, and there are those who see things in slow motion. Speed has to be taken in the context of the game otherwise every team would just draft sprinters.

 

[BlindFaith]

Game speed and track speed does not always translate equally. Some backs slow down before making a move, the special ones do not gear down. There are really fast backs who don't have great vision or are slow through LOS, and there are those who see things in slow motion. Speed has to be taken in the context of the game otherwise every team would just draft sprinters.

I never said that just because you're fast that you'd automatically be a good football player.
Im saying that if you're fast, carrying a football is not going to slow you down that much.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

I never said that just because you're fast that you'd automatically be a good football player.
Im saying that if you're fast, carrying a football is not going to slow you down that much.

There are a lot of players that slow down once they put the pads on. You get combine and workout warriors that NEVER duplicate on the field what they do on the track. For all intents and purposes, a back with Murray's 40 time should almost NEVER get caught from behind.

 

[BlindFaith]

There are a lot of players that slow down once they put the pads on. You get combine and workout warriors that NEVER duplicate on the field what they do on the track. For all intents and purposes, a back with Murray's 40 time should almost NEVER get caught from behind.

Everyone slows down with pads on. This idea that some players magically keep their all their speed while wearing pads is ridiculous. Time everyone while wearing pads and ALL times will be slower.

Murray ran a 4.3 while preparing for the draft 4 years ago. Wear and tear on the body will cause you to slow down. Especially for a running back. That's why their shelf life isn't typically that long.

And getting caught from behind is so subjective. There are angles involved. Conditioning factors. Injury factors. Bo Jackson got caught from behind.

"Work out warriors" is usually a label for a guy who didn't show up on tape as being a good player, but then puts up crazy measurables. Again, I'm not saying having great speed automatically makes you a good football player.

 

[Fla Cowpoke]

So Blind Faith....you think that pads affect every player the same way? Look at the professional scouting reports. Many talk about players not playing to their timed speed. What changes? What causes that? The only thing that changes is that they changed clothes, added a helmet and a football. BY the way, Murray's official combine 40 was 4.41, not 4.3. Handheld times don't count because there are so many variables. So a few years of injuries, wouldn't be surprised if he is a 4.55, which would be fairly average.

Pads affect everyone...that is a fair statement....but it doesn't add the same amount to every player. You can't just take a blanket increase and apply it to everyone.

 

[BlindFaith]

So Blind Faith....you think that pads affect every player the same way? Look at the professional scouting reports. Many talk about players not playing to their timed speed. What changes? What causes that? The only thing that changes is that they changed clothes, added a helmet and a football. BY the way, Murray's official combine 40 was 4.41, not 4.3. Handheld times don't count because there are so many variables. So a few years of injuries, wouldn't be surprised if he is a 4.55, which would be fairly average.

Pads affect everyone...that is a fair statement....but it doesn't add the same amount to every player. You can't just take a blanket increase and apply it to everyone.

Playing to timed speed has nothing to do with pads. Football is more than measurables. Its heart, desire, intelligence, toughness. If you're affraid to get hit, you'll hesitate. If you dont have a feel for the game, you'll be hesitant.

Playing fast means the game is instinctual. Not that you have some special talent to run fast with pads on.

 

[BoysWin]

I see the exact opposite. No way is he soft between the tackles

I am a Hawkeye fan. And i admit - I too like Langford and Tevin Coleman. Langford is bigger and faster at the combine - but is Langford faster on the field/ I find his bio a lot like david Johnson, UNI. - Both became RB's with a previous history as a WR and Langford additionally was attempting to play DB at Michigan State. Langford has to have some unique skills, playing DB, WR and RB at different pahases of his stay at Michigan State...