Why Not Dave Wannstedt?

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Since apparently we are consumed with nostalgia even to the point of hiring failed head coaches with links to our glory days, why not Wannstedt?

He didn't do worse with Miami. He can coach defense. So why not?

I'd like a legitimate reason why he would be any worse than Turner.
 

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Miami always was competitive and had great Ds in Miami, why not? can't be worse than the failed Norval
 

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Alexander;1343458 said:
Since apparently we are consumed with nostalgia even to the point of hiring failed head coaches with links to our glory days, why not Wannstedt?

He didn't do worse with Miami. He can coach defense. So why not?

I'd like a legitimate reason why he would be any worse than Turner.

i'd love to have him back as defensive coordinator.
 

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BigDFan5;1343473 said:
BRING BACK DAVE! lol

It is no more ludicrous than bringing back Turner. Except that Turner did even worse in his other head coaching stops than Wannstedt did in Chicago or Miami.

I keep pinching myself to say it's not a dream, but it's true. Jerry Jones actually believes this is a smart idea to hire a complete limp phallis like Norv Turner to hold the hand of Jason Garrett until it is determined he no longer needs diapers and can move on to the big boy potty.

Meanwhile, we are ignoring the real issues on this team, like our completely lifeless and clueless defense.

Is Jason Garrett worth all of this?

If so, why not just make him head coach then?
 

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There's really no difference between the two when it comes to being a HC, they've both failed twice.

In fact, why not bring back Campo....he's only failed once.
 

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Wannstedt?

Ridiculous.

Do you really think Jerry wants everyone to go around thinking he's hired a puppet?
 

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VA Cowboy;1343480 said:
There's really no difference between the two when it comes to being a HC, they've both failed twice.

In fact, why not bring back Campo....he's only failed once.

Might as well.

We could hire any imbecile really.

All we are out to do now is pave the way for Jason Garrett.

I cannot say I have ever heard of any idea by any GM that profoundly stupid. Nobody hires a coach to "mentor" some kid they just hired on staff. It makes no sense. It shows no sense of timing. The NFL is a microwave league where you can turn around your fortune in literally one year. Yet Jones is looking exclusively at the future and is banking it on a person with exactly one year of professional coaching experience. Norv Turner would be a highly paid nanny.

At least a senile fool like Al Davis has the guts to hire his infant and doesn't care what anyone thinks. I have lost a lot of respect for Jones over the last week and I will lose more if he continues this foolishness.

Jerry Jones is trying to peddle off the glory days to recapture a very dimwitted segment of the fan base that believes that our 1990s teams were the result of outstanding coaching. That talent could have been coached but complete buffoons and win. See Barry Switzer for additional details.
 

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Alexander;1343489 said:
Might as well.

We could hire any imbecile really.

All we are out to do now is pave the way for Jason Garrett.

I cannot say I have ever heard of any idea by any GM that profoundly stupid. Nobody hires a coach to "mentor" some kid they just hired on staff. It makes no sense. It shows no sense of timing. The NFL is a microwave league where you can turn around your fortune in literally one year. Yet Jones is looking exclusively at the future and is banking it on a person with exactly one year of professional coaching experience. Norv Turner would be a highly paid nanny.

At least a senile fool like Al Davis has the guts to hire his infant and doesn't care what anyone thinks. I have lost a lot of respect for Jones over the last week and I will lose more if he continues this foolishness.

Jerry Jones is trying to peddle off the glory days to recapture a very dimwitted segment of the fan base that believes that our 1990s teams were the result of outstanding coaching. That talent could have been coached but complete buffoons and win. See Barry Switzer for additional details.

jerry really does need to just sign paychecks and keep the hell out of everything else.
 

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Alexander;1343489 said:
Jerry Jones is trying to peddle off the glory days to recapture a very dimwitted segment of the fan base that believes that our 1990s teams were the result of outstanding coaching. That talent could have been coached but complete buffoons and win. See Barry Switzer for additional details.

it's funny, since those '90s teams didn't rely on any elaborate schemes on O or D

if JJ wants an offensive mind to develop Romo, why not just keep Chris Palmer, and isn't that part of the reason Garrett is here?
 

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summerisfunner;1343500 said:
it's funny, since those '90s teams didn't rely on any elaborate schemes on O or D

if JJ wants an offensive mind to develop Romo, why not just keep Chris Palmer, and isn't that part of the reason Garrett is here?

Garrett is here because Jones believes he's hoodwinked the rest of the NFL in unearthing some diamond in the rough.

What's frightening is the lengths he is going to protect his little treasure. I can see him like Gollum, looking at a picture of Garrett and dryly whispering "my precious".

If he has that much faith, just hire him to be the head coach.

I wouldn't think any less of him for at least standing behind the man he believes is the key to the future. Then, once it has failed, he can go back to being a miserable general manager again.
 

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Alexander;1343458 said:
Since apparently we are consumed with nostalgia even to the point of hiring failed head coaches with links to our glory days, why not Wannstedt?

Because at Pittsburgh he doesn't have to worry about being replaced by Garrett at the first sign of trouble.
 

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Alexander;1343503 said:
Garrett is here because Jones believes he's hoodwinked the rest of the NFL in unearthing some diamond in the rough.

What's frightening is the lengths he is going to tresure his little treasure. I can see him like Gollum, looking at a picture of Garrett and dryly whispering "my precious".

it's gonna be funny when a team snatches Garrett away in a couple of years, and we can't do anything about it because we already have an HC

or he doesn't turn out to be that smart at all
 

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Alexander;1343489 said:
All we are out to do now is pave the way for Jason Garrett.

I cannot say I have ever heard of any idea by any GM that profoundly stupid. Nobody hires a coach to "mentor" some kid they just hired on staff. It makes no sense. It shows no sense of timing. The NFL is a microwave league where you can turn around your fortune in literally one year. Yet Jones is looking exclusively at the future and is banking it on a person with exactly one year of professional coaching experience. Norv Turner would be a highly paid nanny.

At least a senile fool like Al Davis has the guts to hire his infant and doesn't care what anyone thinks. I have lost a lot of respect for Jones over the last week and I will lose more if he continues this foolishness.
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Jerry is a reactor. He's now trying to react to the Sean Payton, young "genius" that got away, so now he's wanting to invent Garrett in that role.

When it comes to football the man is a total moron. He got lucky with Johnson. If they weren't former teammates I doubt he would've ever hired him. Then thinking he could make all the GM decisons himself once Jimmy left, to hiring guys like Switzer, Gailey and Campo...it's just a constant with this buffoon.

At least he gained a little sense in his head when he finally got desperate and brought in Bill. The worst thing about Bill not taking us farther is that apparently Jerry now thinks there's no need to hire a big time high-priced HC again. He went with guys like Barry/Chan/Campo time and again, but now that BP didn't take us all the way I suppose JJ is one and done with that philosophy so now he's going back to the lame glorified-OC-as-HC route.

As bad an option as Wade seems, at least he has a history of being a marginally winning HC. Norv is just bad. And yeah, it is totally ludicrous to just hire a guy in order to keep the seat warm for QB coach with only two years experience.
 

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summerisfunner;1343505 said:
it's gonna be funny when a team snatches Garrett away in a couple of years, and we can't do anything about it because we already have an HC

or he doesn't turn out to be that smart at all

Yeah, that'll be a real knee-slapper
 

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VA Cowboy;1343507 said:
Jerry is a reactor. He's now trying to react to the Sean Payton, young "genius" that got away, so now he's wanting to invent Garrett in that role.

That is exactly what it is.

Just like he overreacted to Troy Aikman's whining about Gailey's system and went back to the timing offense, irregardless of who he had to employ to do it.

At least he gained a little sense in his head when he finally got desperate and brought in Bill. The worst thing about Bill don't taking us farther is that apparently Jerry now thinks there's no need to hire a big time high-priced HC again. He went with guys like Barry/Chan/Campo time and again, but now that BP didn't take us all the way I suppose JJ is one and done with that philosophy so now he's going back to the lame glorified-OC-as-HC route.

He is also very reactive in making decisions in general.

Wait until free agency. I can all but guarantee a very slow and very uneventful period. He was blistered by the failure of Vanderjagt and also did not appreciate spending millions on players like Rocky Boiman to have to cut them or like Fabini to have them on the bench. He will pat his wallet, wish upon a star and honestly believe we are going somewhere any time soon with him right back in the driver's seat in the draft room.

As bad an option as Wade seems, at least he has a history of being a marginally winning HC. Norv is just bad. And yeah, it is totally ludicrous to just hire a guy in order to keep the seat warm for QB coach with only two years experience.

You might as well hire a person and completely castrate him in front of the entire organization.
 
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