Why Peterson?

[ChooChoo73]

Please help me with why Patrick Peterson is so coveted on this board a others. I have seen him and he looks good but I am not blown away with his skills. I am amazed at his athleticism. If he did not have the special teams elite play, would he still rate over Prince as a cover corner? I have seen him but only the equivalent of 3-4 games and I did not focus entirely on him. I liked his play against Bama.

 

[RoyTheHammer]

He's a good player and he had alot of media hype going for him. He also comes from a football family.

I think its his rare size/speed combo that brings him the most attention. How it will translate to the NFL, im not sure. I honestly question whether he has the quickness to turn and cut with the quicker receivers in the NFL. Seems to have stiff hips.

 

[TheDallasDon]

Please help me with why Patrick Peterson is so coveted on this board a others. I have seen him and he looks good but I am not blown away with his skills. I am amazed at his athleticism. If he did not have the special teams elite play, would he still rate over Prince as a cover corner? I have seen him but only the equivalent of 3-4 games and I did not focus entirely on him. I liked his play against Bama.

I'm ur huckleberry

 

[marchetta]

Guys, he's 220+ lbs. How many sucessful CBs do you see that big? None. I can't wait until the combine to see if he has a NFL CB's agility. Waiting for those shuttle times, and 3-cone drills, to see his change of direction. Waiting to see his hip-flip. Those are the tools that sucessful NFL CBs have. If he's just a big, fast, dynamic punt returner that we'd have to project to S because he lacks the hip-flip and agility of a NFL CB then I'd pass. It takes more than speed and size to make a NFL S. You have to have a complete understanding of the D since you're basically the quarterback of the defense. And, if you haven't proved you could do it in college, I'm not risking a top 10 pick on you. JMO

 

[realtick]

Guys, he's 220+ lbs. How many sucessful CBs do you see that big? None. I can't wait until the combine to see if he has a NFL CB's agility. Waiting for those shuttle times, and 3-cone drills, to see his change of direction. Waiting to see his hip-flip. Those are the tools that sucessful NFL CBs have. If he's just a big, fast, dynamic punt returner that we'd have to project to S because he lacks the hip-flip and agility of a NFL CB then I'd pass. It takes more than speed and size to make a NFL S. You have to have a complete understanding of the D since you're basically the quarterback of the defense. And, if you haven't proved you could do it in college, I'm not risking a top 10 pick on you. JMO

Not all succesful NFL corners have fluid hips.

Deion Sanders didn't have great hips, neither do guys like T. Newman, Q. Jammer, to name a few.

Some do, like Champ Bailey, Revis and Mike Jenkins (his play last season notwithstanding).

 

[TheDallasDon]

Guys, he's 220+ lbs. How many sucessful CBs do you see that big? None. I can't wait until the combine to see if he has a NFL CB's agility. Waiting for those shuttle times, and 3-cone drills, to see his change of direction. Waiting to see his hip-flip. Those are the tools that sucessful NFL CBs have. If he's just a big, fast, dynamic punt returner that we'd have to project to S because he lacks the hip-flip and agility of a NFL CB then I'd pass. It takes more than speed and size to make a NFL S. You have to have a complete understanding of the D since you're basically the quarterback of the defense. And, if you haven't proved you could do it in college, I'm not risking a top 10 pick on you. JMO

That my good sir is preposterous propaganda, where did u cone up with the hypothesis that he has tight hips???

 

[jnday]

LSU does a good job with the hype machine. The more people that actually watch Peterson , the more flaws are being found. He may be a good NFL player one day , but he will not be a Deion Sanders shut-own corner.

 

[marchetta]

That my good sir is preposterous propaganda, where did u cone up with the hypothesis that he has tight hips???

Read it again. Where does it say that I said he has tight hips? I said, I want to see him during the combine to SEE if he has good hip flip... amongst other things before I label him a NFL CB. Being a big, fast, good returner, shutdown college CB isn't enough to prove he can do it at 220lbs in the NFL. I want to see his agility drill numbers first.

 

[TheCount]

Please help me with why Patrick Peterson is so coveted on this board a others. I have seen him and he looks good but I am not blown away with his skills. I am amazed at his athleticism. If he did not have the special teams elite play, would he still rate over Prince as a cover corner? I have seen him but only the equivalent of 3-4 games and I did not focus entirely on him. I liked his play against Bama.

I don't really understand why people have him as high as they do either. I like him as a prospect but I really, really doubt he goes #2 overall like some places are predicting.

 

[marchetta]

LSU does a good job with the hype machine. The more people that actually watch Peterson , the more flaws are being found. He may be a good NFL player one day , but he will not be a Deion Sanders shut-own corner.

Exactly. Everyone's acting like he's the 2nd coming of Deion. 220lbs is a lot of weight to carry around for a NFL corner. That's a lot of weight that has to start, stop, and redirect on a dime like a CB has to do. From a sheer physics perspective, it just doesn't add up. I have this funny feeling that after we see his combine numbers, he's going to project to S, and no way in heck do you pick a project S in the top 10. Until then, I'm withholding judgment and patiently waiting.

 

[TheDallasDon]

Exactly. Everyone's acting like he's the 2nd coming of Deion. 220lbs is a lot of weight to carry around for a NFL corner. That's a lot of weight that has to start, stop, and redirect on a dime like a CB has to do. From a sheer physics perspective, it just doesn't add up. I have this funny feeling that after we see his combine numbers, he's going to project to S, and no way in heck do you pick a project S in the top 10. Until then, I'm withholding judgment and patiently waiting.

Happens alot so ur wrong eric berry went in the top 5 just last year

 

[Cover 2]

Happens alot so ur wrong eric berry went in the top 5 just last year

Berry wasn't a project safety. If Peterson did move to safety that is what he would be, though I don't see it happening. At least not for a few years. Kind of like with Antrel Rolle.

 

[marchetta]

Happens alot so ur wrong eric berry went in the top 5 just last year

Dude, are you dyslexic? Do you even read what is written before responding? Eric Berry wasn't a CB in college. He was a PROVEN ELITE Safety. And, that is what he was drafted as. I said, and I'll type slow so you can read it, that if PP's combine numbers show that he can't make an effective NFL CB, that I wouldn't draft a project Safety in the top 10. There's a world of difference between the CB and S positions. As a S, you're the quarterback of the secondary. And if he hasn't proven he could do it in college, I'm not risking that he could make the conversion in the pros. Understand?

 

[burntricersx]

Berry wasn't a project safety. If Peterson did move to safety that is what he would be, though I don't see it happening. At least not for a few years. Kind of like with Antrel Rolle.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/eric -berry?id=496723

Eric Berry - SS.

 

[dbair1967]

Happens alot so ur wrong eric berry went in the top 5 just last year

Eric Berry was a better football player at Tennesse than Peterson is at LSU.

He was a better safety than Peterson is a CB

 

[Cover 2]

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2010/profiles/eric -berry?id=496723

Eric Berry - SS.

I'm afraid I don't understand the point of this. It says he was a safety in college.

 

[burmafrd]

still waiting for someone to find a 220 LB CB in the NFL that was really good.

 

[marchetta]

still waiting for someone to find a 220 LB CB in the NFL that was really good.

There are none that I can recall. They're usually called Safeties. And, no way in heck am I choosing a project S in the top 10. Just because a player is a big CB, doesn't mean he can make the conversion to the S position. The S position is the quarterback of the secondary. And the player has to have a complete understanding of the D as well as situational awareness to be a successful S. And, if he hasn't proven he could do it in college, I'm not risking a top 10 pick that he can do it in the pros.