Why taking a knee is respectful

[65fastback2plus2]

Most people dont follow issues like I do, and many more dont have a good memory if they do so.

Inundated with constant things makes remembering what someone said or did just a few months ago a major chore.

So, for a flashback:

Colin started out by just sitting on the bench and chilling; an actual sign of disrespect.

But Colin was just acting out as best he saw fit at the time. Nate Boyer, former NFL player and Green Beret noticed that Colin's cause was a good one, but wanted him to know that chilling was disrespectful.

Nate had an open letter posted for Colin, the two met and talked. Colin listened.

What you really dont remember, is why Colin went from sitting to kneeling.

I'll let the Green Beret tell you why:

"We sorta came to a middle ground where he would take a knee alongside his teammates," Boyer says. "Soldiers take a knee in front of a fallen brother's grave, you know, to show respect. When we're on a patrol, you know, and we go into a security halt, we take a knee, and we pull security."

If kneeling is disrespectful, then everyone has been disrespecting people for a long time. But it isnt. Its a sign of attention

We can even look to the definition of kneeling from the 1600's and the latin word for it genuflect:

lower one's body briefly by bending one knee to the ground, typically in worship or as a sign of respect; show deference

https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/news/...in-kaepernick-to-go-from-sitting-to-kneeling/

 

[EST_1986]

its the hue of the people doing it thats makes it an issue

 

[65fastback2plus2]

its the hue of the people doing it thats makes it an issue

I completely disagree. I believe it is people not sure of their stances being easily swayed to outrage.

 

[JoeKing]

Not buying your premise because it ignores the kneeling during the national anthem is intended to contradict a communal tradition of standing during the anthem to show respect to the flag and nation.

However the kneeling the Cowboys did was actually a genuflect to pray before the national anthem... it's completely respectful. Tim Tebow ring a bell?

 

[65fastback2plus2]

Not buying your premise because it ignores the kneeling during the national anthem is intended to contradict a communal tradition of standing during the anthem to show respect to the flag and nation.

However the kneeling the Cowboys did was actually a genuflect to pray before the national anthem... it's completely respectful. Tim Tebow ring a bell?

Just because it goes against your personal tradition DOESNT make it disrespectful. And thats what EVERYONE flipping out has missed about this entire thing.

 

[EST_1986]

Home of the free, as long as you do as I say

 

[Cowboys22]

So players are kneeling out of respect in order to protest? Sorry, your reaching. Standing and removing your hat for the anthem is the norm and that is how you show respect. It isn't the same as a greeting or any other circumstance where kneeling is a sign of respect. Their intention is to show disrespect to the flag and the country on the biggest stage they have in order to protest. If kneeling for the anthem was a sign of respect, they wouldn't be doing it. This is juvenile attempt at justifying something you know in your heart is wrong. I have no issue with anyone who identifies with the underlying complaints that started this but there is a time and a place to express those concerns and there are things you just don't do. Kneeling, sitting, or just not showing up for the anthem is not the way to go about anything and no one should be surprised that a majority of Americans are going to be offended if you do it.

 

[65fastback2plus2]

So players are kneeling out of respect in order to protest?

Absolutely...per Nate Boyer, Green Beret.

You think they went from sitting to kneeling for no reason and by accident?!

 

[EST_1986]

So players are kneeling out of respect in order to protest? Sorry, your reaching. Standing and removing your hat for the anthem is the norm and that is how you show respect. It isn't the same as a greeting or any other circumstance where kneeling is a sign of respect. Their intention is to show disrespect to the flag and the country on the biggest stage they have in order to protest. If kneeling for the anthem was a sign of respect, they wouldn't be doing it. This is juvenile attempt at justifying something you know in your heart is wrong. I have no issue with anyone who identifies with the underlying complaints that started this but there is a time and a place to express those concerns and there are things you just don't do. Kneeling, sitting, or just not showing up for the anthem is not the way to go about anything and no one should be surprised that a majority of Americans are going to be offended if you do it.

I agree they're not kneeling to respect the Anthem, thats a reach beyond reachers and something as racist as the anthem shouldn't be respected.

 

[JoeKing]

Just because it goes against your personal tradition DOESNT make it disrespectful. And thats what EVERYONE flipping out has missed about this entire thing.

Stop it. You know darn well the tradition is to stand for the national anthem with your hand on your heart. Taking a knee during that time is purely a selfish move to make it about you and your cause rather than respecting the flag and nation. Your logic will also accept when I'm flipping you off I'm really saying you are number one. Disrespect is apparent when we see it so stop with the BS.

 

[EST_1986]

Stop it. You know darn well the tradition is to stand for the national anthem with your hand on your heart. Taking a knee during that time is purely a selfish move to make it about you and your cause rather than respecting the flag and nation. Your logic will also accept when I'm flipping you off I'm really saying you are number one. Disrespect is apparent when we see it so stop with the BS.

So you agree locking arms instead of the "traditional" hand over heart is a form of a protest, in which the Cowboys did last night

 

[JoeKing]

So you agree locking arms instead of the "traditional" hand over heart is a form of a protest, in which the Cowboys did last night

Locking arm in arm is a symbol of unity for equality... yes it was a protest. But who is against equality?

 

[EST_1986]

Locking arm in arm is a symbol of unity for equality... yes it was a protest. But who is against equality?

look around here, theres plenty sifting through this website now against it or in ignornat denial that blacks aren't equally treated in this country

 

[Cowboys22]

Absolutely...per Nate Boyer, Green Beret.

You think they went from sitting to kneeling for no reason and by accident?!

Protesting of any kind during the anthem is blatant disrespect to the flag and our country. Period! You can twist and twist and you will never be right. The flag and the anthem are sacred and they have nothing to do with the issue some have with the police. They don't represent or honor police officers. They represent us all and the men and women who have served and/or died for all of us. To do anything other than stand at attention is disrespectful. Everyone is free to do what they want and therefore people are free to disagree and criticize those that show blatant disrespect.

 

[JoeKing]

look around here, theres plenty sifting through this website now against it or in ignornat denial that blacks aren't equally treated in this country

Equality is not something universally afforded to all Americans in this country. It's unfortunate that some assume that all Americans do share in that equality but that's out of ignorance, not malice. It's generational and it will get better as time progresses.

 

[EST_1986]

Equality is not something universally afforded to all Americans in this country. It's unfortunate that some assume that all Americans do share in that equality but that's out of ignorance, not malice. It's generational and it will get better as time progresses.

This is 110% true, well said.

 

[JoeKing]

This is 110% true, well said.

See there, we don't have to be at loggerheads over this issue. We can fuss and discuss and make progress.

 

[EST_1986]

See there, we don't have to be at loggerheads over this issue. We can fuss and discuss and make progress.

 

[Diehardblues]

The ones objecting to the protest are playing the Patriot card and hypocritical in nature.

They need to read the Constitution which the 1st Amendment doesn't mention where or when is the appropriate place or time to protest which the flag represents those freedoms.

It's a dogwhistle to deeply embedded divisions in our culture .

 

[JoeKing]

No, I still want to punch you in the face. But then I will buy you a beer and then we can be friends.