Why Training Camp is outdated and what NFL should do about it

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I know. I get it. We are all starving for football and each year in late July, training camp marks the beginning of of preparation for a new football season. But may I suggest that TC is one of the most outdated ideas since the rotary land line phone?

In the mid 20th century, NFL coaches and executives figured out that before their season began, they needed some time to whip their players into shape. Even in the 1950s and 60s, NFL players were part timers. In the off season most players sold cars or insurance to make ends meet. The big pay days for players that allowed them to train full time didn’t start happening until the mid-late 70s so almost all players worked off season jobs.

So players in those days were out of shape in July and needed some time to get in football shape and prep for the season. And “getting away” from family and “distractions” were considered part of the formula for getting players ready.

Today’s players stay in shape year round. They have mini-camps in the off season to fine tune schemes and new wrinkles to their offense and defense. Veteran starters have the least to gain and most to lose by going through six weeks of TC practices and “exhibition” preseason games that are really mostly about selecting the last few members of the 53 man roster.

So here are some suggestions to make TC more modern:

1. The first 3 weeks of TC should be for rookies and FAs trying to make the team. Veterans can report in mid August, 3-4 weeks before the season starts. (By the way, if Zeke ends up missing most of TC this year it will have little effect on the season if he ends up playing anyway- see Emmitt Smith, 1993)

2. Cut preseason games from 4 to 3. Let’s face it, it’s terrible football. And coaches don’t game plan or reveal much of their schemes that will be used in regular season. They are usually just making final roster decisions. And those could be made without ps games. College fb does it that way.

3. College football doesn’t have “preseason games”. They have 4 weeks of practice and the games start. I contend the only reason we have NFL ps games is for the owners to pad their wallets.

4. And less than half of NFL teams don’t spend a small fortune traveling far away to hold TC. Most teams know it can easily be done at home facilities with far less cost. I think JJ uses the camp in Oxnard as a marketing tool as much as anything else.
Almost every veteran NFL player will say when asked that they mostly hate TC. The team comraderie is cool. But 4-6 weeks of practices and meaningless games, mostly away from home?

Training camp needs a face lift and modernizing. I know many here will say this is sacrilege. But probably only because of the starvation for football, lol.
 
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It's garbage. Camp consists of 10 practices in a 1 month span. lol Soon every player can stay home and take video lessons. The whole team can facetime.
 
Fans love it. Players hate it. I wouldn’t be surprised if Zeke is just holding out to miss some TC time, lol.


Who likes practice? But it does seem necessary to prepare for the season adding schemes and wrinkles etc. 10 practices just seems ridiculous.
 
Who likes practice? But it does seem necessary to prepare for the season adding schemes and wrinkles etc. 10 practices just seems ridiculous.
Practices are needed for sure. What is outdated is the long TC routine spent 1,000 miles from their home base. The latest labor agreement doesn’t allow a ton of consecutive practices, so there is a ton of down time. Just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me for these guys to be in Oxnard, CA for a month.
 
Practices are needed for sure. What is outdated is the long TC routine spent 1,000 miles from their home base. The latest labor agreement doesn’t allow a ton of consecutive practices, so there is a ton of down time. Just doesn’t make a lot of sense to me for these guys to be in Oxnard, CA for a month.


Everything's a show. Shouldn't they have camp at the star?
 
The last one I attended was in Austin and it was nothing more than something to make extra money. And it was boring as hell.

Gone are the days of the weight fines on the lineman and putting time locks on their fridges, year round training negates the "get in shape" aspect. And they don't have to play starters into shape using preseason games. They really serve no purpose. Some say that's the breaking point for some players and I say really? Scrubs playing against scrubs tells them what? And even if you put a backup in against the other starter, that will not be a real game situation unless that player is playing for his position.

One thing I don't get is the excitement some have because tc has started unless that sets the alarm for real football. But that's cool, just not for me. When it gets real, that's when I pay attention.

However, one thing I've noticed and this began about 5 years ago, The first games are really sloppy, almost like preseasons games but with starters. I think that's because of the injury situation and if a name player goes down early, we will see other HC's react.

I was around Bob Lilly on several occasions and I asked him one time about the preseason games. I asked "did you vets take it easy on each other in those games" and he just got this smile. He wouldn't say it but that smile answered my question. Back in his day, you could end a guy's career by injuring him in the preseason because not every HC had the rule you don't lose your starter status to injury. LOL, I guess Garrett doesn't have that either?
 
The last one I attended was in Austin and it was nothing more than something to make extra money. And it was boring as hell.

Gone are the days of the weight fines on the lineman and putting time locks on their fridges, year round training negates the "get in shape" aspect. And they don't have to play starters into shape using preseason games. They really serve no purpose. Some say that's the breaking point for some players and I say really? Scrubs playing against scrubs tells them what? And even if you put a backup in against the other starter, that will not be a real game situation unless that player is playing for his position.

One thing I don't get is the excitement some have because tc has started unless that sets the alarm for real football. But that's cool, just not for me. When it gets real, that's when I pay attention.

However, one thing I've noticed and this began about 5 years ago, The first games are really sloppy, almost like preseasons games but with starters. I think that's because of the injury situation and if a name player goes down early, we will see other HC's react.

I was around Bob Lilly on several occasions and I asked him one time about the preseason games. I asked "did you vets take it easy on each other in those games" and he just got this smile. He wouldn't say it but that smile answered my question. Back in his day, you could end a guy's career by injuring him in the preseason because not every HC had the rule you don't lose your starter status to injury. LOL, I guess Garrett doesn't have that either?
Coach, I’m like you. I don’t get excited about watching football until the real bullets start to fly in September. These preseason games are just bad football. Meaningless. No game planning, no creativity. Having to watch guys play for either team who will be working a real job in a month. It’s better than nothing I guess. But in my mind, not much better.
 
NFL sacrificed the quality of their product via less practice time in exchange for more money. It is what it is.
 
I know. I get it. We are all starving for football and each year in late July, training camp marks the beginning of of preparation for a new football season. But may I suggest that TC is one of the most outdated ideas since the rotary land line phone?

In the mid 20th century, NFL coaches and executives figured out that before their season began, they needed some time to whip their players into shape. Even in the 1950s and 60s, NFL players were part timers. In the off season most players sold cars or insurance to make ends meet. The big pay days for players that allowed them to train full time didn’t start happening until the mid-late 70s so almost all players worked off season jobs.

So players in those days were out of shape in July and needed some time to get in football shape and prep for the season. And “getting away” from family and “distractions” were considered part of the formula for getting players ready.

Today’s players stay in shape year round. They have mini-camps in the off season to fine tune schemes and new wrinkles to their offense and defense. Veteran starters have the least to gain and most to lose by going through six weeks of TC practices and “exhibition” preseason games that are really mostly about selecting the last few members of the 53 man roster.

So here are some suggestions to make TC more modern:

1. The first 3 weeks of TC should be for rookies and FAs trying to make the team. Veterans can report in mid August, 3-4 weeks before the season starts. (By the way, if Zeke ends up missing most of TC this year it will have little effect on the season if he ends up playing anyway- see Emmitt Smith, 1993)

2. Cut preseason games from 4 to 3. Let’s face it, it’s terrible football. And coaches don’t game plan or reveal much of their schemes that will be used in regular season. They are usually just making final roster decisions. And those could be made without ps games. College fb does it that way.

3. College football doesn’t have “preseason games”. They have 4 weeks of practice and the games start. I contend the only reason we have NFL ps games is for the owners to pad their wallets.

4. And less than half of NFL teams don’t spend a small fortune traveling far away to hold TC. Most teams know it can easily be done at home facilities with far less cost. I think JJ uses the camp in Oxnard as a marketing tool as much as anything else.
Almost every veteran NFL player will say when asked that they mostly hate TC. The team comraderie is cool. But 4-6 weeks of practices and meaningless games, mostly away from home?

Training camp needs a face lift and modernizing. I know many here will say this is sacrilege. But probably only because of the starvation for football, lol.
Some good points Bob.

Surely if the NFL thought it was a waste of time they’d abolish TC?

Veterans are already performing at a decreased role at Camp and preseason.

Practice is still important to get ready for the season.
 
Coach, I’m like you. I don’t get excited about watching football until the real bullets start to fly in September. These preseason games are just bad football. Meaningless. No game planning, no creativity. Having to watch guys play for either team who will be working a real job in a month. It’s better than nothing I guess. But in my mind, not much better.
Exhibition preseason games are what they are. Basically an organized scrimmage.

They aren’t must see Cowboys games. No need to torture yourself if you don’t want to see our young rookies and backups battling for a roster spot.
 
Some good points Bob.

Surely if the NFL thought it was a waste of time they’d abolish TC?

Veterans are already performing at a decreased role at Camp and preseason.

Practice is still important to get ready for the season.
Greggo I think the only reason Cowboys hold TC in California is for marketing purposes. They could hold it at the Star for less and better fan access. Most NFL teams have already stopped doing the far away TC.
 
NFL teams already come in unprepared for the first few weeks of every season. Practicing less isn't the answer.

Now preseason though, I can see doing away with that. The games themselves are worthless and the coaches aren't learning anything about their players that they can't see in practices and inter-squad scrimmages.
 
Greggo I think the only reason Cowboys hold TC in California is for marketing purposes. They could hold it at the Star for less and better fan access. Most NFL teams have already stopped doing the far away TC.
That’s probably part of it. That’s not why Landry held it there. It was to get out this smoldering heat.

And they now come home for last couple weeks at the Star. I went up there last year. Very nice and free indoors at Ford Stadium. You should make the drive over. Jerry’s built quite a practice facility and common grounds for Cowboys HQ’s.

Is it commercialized ? Of course. What would we expect . Not sure what your beef is?

Parking is free, admittance is free. You wouldn’t have to spend a dime to experience the Cowboys culture. I recommend to all fans.
 
That’s probably part of it. That’s not why Landry held it there. It was to get out this smoldering heat.

And they now come home for last couple weeks at the Star. I went up there last year. Very nice and free indoors at Ford Stadium. You should make the drive over. Jerry’s built quite a practice facility and common grounds for Cowboys HQ’s.

Is it commercialized ? Of course. What would we expect . Not sure what your beef is?

Parking is free, admittance is free. You wouldn’t have to spend a dime to experience the Cowboys culture. I recommend to all fans.
I don’t have a beef about the star at all. Been there three times. Seems like the best place to have TC if we must have it. And they have facilities to escape the heat.
 
This site doesn’t have TC schedule for Frisco yet but it will begin about Aug 16th with the last two preseason games at home.

https://www.dallascowboys.com/fans/training-camp

Normally there’s a morning and afternoon practice. Some days they only have one. And it’s all inside and free including covered parking garage.

I’d post pics but haven’t figured out yet how to from my iPhone. Only with URL site.,
 
I don’t have a beef about the star at all. Been there three times. Seems like the best place to have TC if we must have it. And they have facilities to escape the heat.
Ok. You just have a problem with it in Calif?
 

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