Why We Keep Flo

[rcaldw]

Thought someone else might find this interesting. Why in the world keep an offensive lineman who commits penalties at a frightening rate, and seemingly at the worst possible moment?

Well, here is your answer. This comes from the Maple Street Press 2009 Cowboys annual. And, by the way, its not just Flo's numbers that are interesting in what I'm about to share.

This is a chart that reflects "Blocking Metrics". This was accomplished by 70 hours of film study, done by the author of the article, looking at every game from the 2008 season. There are two statistics I'm going to share. One is POA WIN %. (Point of attack) This is when a play is run behind a particular offensive lineman and he "wins" his battle by opening a lane for the runner to get through. The second is POA YPA. How many yards are averaged when his POA block opens the lane.

What makes both of these statistics interesting is that THEY TAKE THE PENALTIES INTO ACCOUNT. That is, every time you commit a penalty on a play, (holding for example), you lose any POA win you accomplished. You also lose any yardage on that play. In fact, worse than that, the negative yards on the penalty are figured AGAINST your YPA.

80% and above is considered average and above with 90% among the best at your position. Below 80% is considered average or worse.

Note: These are RUN blocking numbers from last season

FIRST POA WIN %

Flozell Adams 85.9
Marc Columbo 84.4
Jason Witten 84.4
Deon Anderson 84.3
Montrae Holland 82.4
Cory Proctor 79.0
Leonard Davis 77.5
Andre Gurode 77.0
Kyle Kosier 76.9
Tony Curtis 74.5
Martellus Bennett 71.5

POA YPA

Flozell Adams 6.0
Jason Witten 5.5
Andre Gurode 5.2
Cory Proctor 5.2
Martellus Bennett 5.1
Leonard Davis 5.0
Montrae Holland 4.9
Marc Columbo 4.6
Kyle Kosier 4.2
Deon Anderson 4.1
Tony Curtis 4.1

Now, the only other thing I'll say, is that I don't know how they handle pre-snap penalties, and that is the VAST MAJORITY of Flozell's infractions.

Not making a case for anything here, just found the numbers interesting. ALSO, AS A SIDE NOTE, these numbers say that Cory Proctor isn't as bad as some people want to believe.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Because we don't have anyone better

 

[rcaldw]

Because we don't have anyone better

Did you even read the statistics , I agree with your assessment , but wanted to discuss the numbers the article threw out.

 

[burmafrd]

or these metrics leave something out.

 

[Yeagermeister]

Did you even read the statistics , I agree with your assessment , but wanted to discuss the numbers the article through out.

No because I already knew the answer :laugh2:

 

[rcaldw]

or these metrics leave something out.

Well, I'm the guy who argues that football isn't baseball, and the author of the article states that he represents a new field in statistics that they believe will allow football to compete with baseball, in a numbers way. It is called "performance metrics". He has a bunch of other breakdowns in the article as well, which I might share later on.

But I did think the numbers were interesting.

 

[rcaldw]

No because I already knew the answer :laugh2:

Hehe, well read them and tell me what you make of the numbers?

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

this is a good read but it doesn't address his pass blocking which is nothing short of God Awful to Horrific at times. It literally looks like his feet are stuck in cement. I can do nothing but shake my head in shame everytime I see him resort to holding or tripping because he can't move is pass protection.

 

[Future]

this is a good read but it doesn't address his pass blocking which is nothing short of God Awful to Horrific at times. It literally looks like his feet are stuck in cement. I can do nothing but shake my head in shame everytime I see him resort to holding or tripping because he can't move is pass protection.

That doesn't happen all that often. He might have lost a step this year, but it's rare that he gets beat consistently.

 

[THEHEREAFTER]

That doesn't happen all that often. He might have lost a step this year, but it's rare that he gets beat consistently.

True.. I may be magnifying the issue a bit.. but it's been glaring at times and cause for concern. I'm hoping he steadies himself in pass blocking

 

[BrAinPaiNt]

 

[Temo]

I think the problem most people have with Flozel other than penalties is his pass blocking, where he's not as consistent as he used to be.

Same goes for Proctor really, who got abused by interior pass rushers when he was in there last year.

I dont' know that anyone said either one was bad at run blocking.

 

[rcaldw]

I think the problem most people have with Flozel other than penalties is his pass blocking, where he's not as consistent as he used to be.

Same goes for Proctor really, who got abused by interior pass rushers when he was in there last year.

I dont' know that anyone said either one was bad at run blocking.

Like I already said, I'm not trying to make a case for either. I personally wonder sometimes if Flozell has some side money on the games, he false starts so often in crunch time situations.

I just found the numbers interesting.

 

[big dog cowboy]

Because we don't have anyone better

Did you even read the statistics

No because I already knew the answer :laugh2:

 

[rcaldw]

Lol.... You guys are missing the point. I'll state it again. These numbers might offer some objective evidence as to why the Cowboys are still high on Adams. Me, personally? I don't care. I just want us to win. Just thought I would share the numbers and find the discussion about them interesting.

Side note: The hammer icon might be the most overused icon in cowboyszone history.

 

[Mansta54]

We keep Flo because we have nobody else. In Flo's defense, rarely do we hear from his man and he plays against the other teams best pass rusher every week. Go back and look at the stats of the cats he's played against so far this year. They aren't impressive at all. Yes, Flo makes too many penalties but he also handles his busness against the best pass rushers weekly...

 

[big dog cowboy]

Side note: The hammer icon might be the most overused icon in cowboyszone history.

 

[rcaldw]

Point demonstrated

 

[AlcoholicNinja]

:laugh2:

 

[Kangaroo]

We keep Flo because we have nobody else. In Flo's defense, rarely do we hear from his man and he plays against the other teams best pass rusher every week. Go back and look at the stats of the cats he's played against so far this year. They aren't impressive at all. Yes, Flo makes too many penalties but he also handles his busness against the best pass rushers weekly...

Please Dumerville was abusing Romo all day. If you are using sacks as a measure of not hearing a name you are crazy.

Dumerville was making Romo throw early on throws because Flo was getting beat like a rented mule

The reason the penalties like Holding and tripping are him taking out a player that just abuse him and would have a sack

People put way to much stock in sacks as causing issues when QB pressures are just as important

Let's not forget a player can beat a lineman and not get a tackle because the rb has to change his direction and a lb cleans up the mess caused by penetration