Will B.J. command an extension after this year?

[millennial_legend]

Awuzie seems like an All-Pro in the making... follows 2 steller PBUs on third down with a 1st down big tackle for loss.

But B. Jones is proving that he is a very good corner as well. He's not committing interference, he's not allowing anything beat him to his side. Soon, very soon we may have elite bookend corners to go along with elite bookend edge defenders.

How much money will he command, and will he be willing to play on that 5th year option money or not??

 

[The Natural]

Oh please, wait for the season to start.

 

[Proof]

Best part of all the position shuffling has been wasting his rookie contract and moving him into the expensive position shortly before he’s due

 

[J12B]

He's definitely playing on that 5th year contract. Even if he puts up 4+ INTs

 

[HungryLion]

Best part of all the position shuffling has been wasting his rookie contract and moving him into the expensive position shortly before he’s due

Coaches are a joke for not realizing he is a CB sooner.

 

[millennial_legend]

Best part of all the position shuffling has been wasting his rookie contract and moving him into the expensive position shortly before he’s due

He's not a good safety. He's outstanding in man coverage against anybody, WRs or TEs you name it. He's bad at zone coverage as a safety and he's not going to block shed against most TEs and definitely not against linemen, so putting him at box safety was terrible.

You have to make him a corner. Man coverage is his best trait by far.

 

[Proof]

He's not a good safety. He's outstanding in man coverage against anybody, WRs or TEs you name it. He's bad at zone coverage as a safety and he's not going to block shed against most TEs and definitely not against linemen, so putting him at box safety was terrible.

You have to make him a corner. Man coverage is his best trait by far.

I know. I’m lame ring the fact he has t been there all along and is back just in time to drive up his price. (Potentially )

 

[gimmesix]

He's not a good safety. He's outstanding in man coverage against anybody, WRs or TEs you name it. He's bad at zone coverage as a safety and he's not going to block shed against most TEs and definitely not against linemen, so putting him at box safety was terrible.

You have to make him a corner. Man coverage is his best trait by far.

I hate this crap that gets regurgitated about Jones at safety. He was a solid starting safety, and one reason our secondary was much improved in 2016. In 2017, he was doing fine before the Cowboys switched him to strong safety because Heath was sucking at it. (To Heath's credit, he's looked more comfortable in that role this preseason.)

Jones sucked at strong safety, too. At free safety, he's a starting-caliber player. However, I will agree that it looks like he can be more than that at corner, especially the way Richard is using the corners.

 

[millennial_legend]

I hate this crap that gets regurgitated about Jones at safety. He was a solid starting safety, and one reason our secondary was much improved in 2016. In 2017, he was doing fine before the Cowboys switched him to strong safety because Heath was sucking at it. (To Heath's credit, he's looked more comfortable in that role this preseason.)

Jones sucked at strong safety. At free safety, he's a starting-caliber player. However, I will agree that it looks like he can be more than that at corner, especially the way Richard is using the corners.

He was a starting caliber FS, but not the playmaker you want and not the pro bowl caliber talent he is. Definitely more of a 3rd round pick type of FS vs. a 1st round pick type of corner vs. a 7th round strong/box safety.

 

[beware_d-ware]

Best part of all the position shuffling has been wasting his rookie contract and moving him into the expensive position shortly before he’s due

I think he signed his 5th year option as a FS, so he's due something like $6 million next year. Had he signed it as a CB, we'd probably owe him double that. That does make up for some of it.

 

[Clove]

He's not a good safety. He's outstanding in man coverage against anybody, WRs or TEs you name it. He's bad at zone coverage as a safety and he's not going to block shed against most TEs and definitely not against linemen, so putting him at box safety was terrible.

You have to make him a corner. Man coverage is his best trait by far.

You just slandered a coach and for good reason. If a coach doesn't know who should be playing where, that's on the coach. Does Garrett even have a say so on the defensive side of the ball? Does he have the required permission to veto an offensive call? I'm starting to have my doubts.

 

[dogunwo]

You just slandered a coach and for good reason.

It was written instead of spoken so he "libeled" him.

Just kidding.

 

[gimmesix]

He was a starting caliber FS, but not the playmaker you want and not the pro bowl caliber talent he is. Definitely more of a 3rd round pick type of FS vs. a 1st round pick type of corner vs. a 7th round strong/box safety.

Expectations for first-round picks are sometimes unrealistic. I consider a player to be a first-round-caliber player at his position if he does enough to earn a second contract. Not every late first-round safety becomes Ed Reed.

I have no doubt that Jones would have earned a second contract if left at free safety. He's very good covering TEs and his work on the back end made the corners better (see Carr and Claiborne in 2016) even if he didn't have the interception numbers that fans want from the position.

At strong safety, he was rightly removed from the field last year during run downs.

At corner, he appears to have the ability to be more than a starting-caliber player.

 

[dwreck27]

Coaches are a joke for not realizing he is a CB sooner.

This. If they wanted a safety that bad they let an all pro slide to the Giants in the 2nd round

 

[dogunwo]

He was a starting caliber FS, but not the playmaker you want and not the pro bowl caliber talent he is. Definitely more of a 3rd round pick type of FS vs. a 1st round pick type of corner vs. a 7th round strong/box safety.

I find all of that to be fair.

 

[Proof]

This. If they wanted a safety that bad they let an all pro slide to the Giants in the 2nd round

Only if they were willing to pay Vernon, snacks and Jenkins for 150 along with him

 

[mardwin]

Coaches are a joke for not realizing he is a CB sooner.

The sad part is that everyone on CZ knew it then and knows it now. I have 2 less INT than Byron Jones and I have played 48 fewer games than Byron has at FS.

 

[CouchCoach]

Coaches are a joke for not realizing he is a CB sooner.

They were plugging holes with the best athlete.

 

[dwreck27]

Only if they were willing to pay Vernon, snacks and Jenkins for 150 along with him

Lol you think that matters with Collins?

Collins is a great safety whose stood out amongst all those high priced goons

 

[HungryLion]

They were plugging holes with the best athlete.

Yeah yeah. Position flex and all that.