Will Darren McFadden Return As The Starter?

[jterrell]

They said all of this last year, too old, washed up, no fast enough, injury prone and what does he do? Plays entire year and rushes for 1000 yards. All haters were eating crow and still are.

no, they are not man enough to eat crow.
instead they are busy lying to themselves and everyone else about what happened.
it really is completely absurd.

 

[KJJ]

They said all of this last year, too old, washed up, no fast enough, injury prone and what does he do? Plays entire year and rushes for 1000 yards. All haters were eating crow and still are.

If he still had speed he would have had more yards than he did. Under 1100 yards and only 3 rushing TD's is average behind this OL. He produced almost the same numbers Julius Jones produced in 06 behind a far lesser OL. The ones who are eating crow are the FANS who claimed if he stayed healthy he would have 1500 to 1700 yards and produce longer runs than Murray. LOL Go back and read some of the predictions for McFadden running behind our OL they're pretty amusing.

 

[jterrell]

If he still had speed he would have had more yards than he did. Under 1100 yards and only 3 rushing TD's is average behind this OL. He produced almost the same numbers Julius Jones produced in 06 behind a far lesser OL. The ones who are eating crow are the FANS who claimed if he stayed healthy he would have 1500 to 1700 yards and produce longer runs than Murray. LOL Go back and read some of the predictions for McFadden running behind our OL they're pretty amusing.

What was your prediction exactly?

 

[Doomsday101]

Not saying you are trying to put McFadden in the same group as Peterson no one is but I saw his performance as average behind this OL. In 239 attempts he only had 3 rushing TD's that's unacceptable. When he had Romo in the opener he only averaged 2.7 a carry. In week 2 Romo played into the 3rd quarter and McFadden only averaged 3.1 a carry on 10 carries. Romo started the Carolina game and McFadden only avenged 1.1 a carry on 10 carries. He started the season with the same role Randle excelled in, in 2014 and wasn't producing. Had it not been for Randle's injury and release McFadden would have never gotten the opportunities he did. He only looked good in one game Romo played in.

I saw it as better than avg playing with no QB. Yes Romo played vs Carolina and got us behind the 8 ball quick with int for TD and then would throw another in the 2nd. Fact is he was 4th overall in the NFL that can't be disputed it is fact people can spin as they choose but it is what it is and did this with no QB

 

[Doomsday101]

If he still had speed he would have had more yards than he did. Under 1100 yards and only 3 rushing TD's is average behind this OL. He produced almost the same numbers Julius Jones produced in 06 behind a far lesser OL. The ones who are eating crow are the FANS who claimed if he stayed healthy he would have 1500 to 1700 yards and produce longer runs than Murray. LOL Go back and read some of the predictions for McFadden running behind our OL they're pretty amusing.

This is about eating crow? LOL Myself I made no predictions of what McFadden would or would not do but he sure as hell did better than the vast majority of RB finishing 4th overall. Yes OL was a big help and he needed lots of it with Weeden, Cassel and Moore leading the way.

 

[MRV52]

If he still had speed he would have had more yards than he did. Under 1100 yards and only 3 rushing TD's is average behind this OL. He produced almost the same numbers Julius Jones produced in 06 behind a far lesser OL. The ones who are eating crow are the FANS who claimed if he stayed healthy he would have 1500 to 1700 yards and produce longer runs than Murray. LOL Go back and read some of the predictions for McFadden running behind our OL they're pretty amusing.

After we wasted how many games with our saviour Randle. Look at facts man he didn't even have many reps while Randle was here. What would he have done if he was our #1 back from the beginning? Who cares we don't need 1800 rushing to be successful, look at the Patriots for one.

 

[KJJ]

No, there aren't lots of examples.
Adrian Peterson is an exception. He makes 14 million per year.

DeMarco Murray outproduced what DMC did last year 2 times in his entire career. He makes 8mil a year now....

Jamal Lewis was getting 300 carries a season.

DMC produced the 4th highest total in the league in his first year in the offense without even being named starter to begin the season.

His production is only debatable to completely hard-headed or foolish people.

There's plenty of examples over the years of runners especially in the 70's, 80's and 90's producing with subpar passing games. Marshawn Lynch put up consistently big rushing numbers from 2011 to 2014 with a below average to average passing attack. In 2011 he put up over 1200 yards and 12 TD's with Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehorse at QB. Murray outproduced McFadden twice and once behind an OL in 2013 that had yet to add Martin. The OL was strengthened even more in 2015 by adding Collins.

Murray put up a franchise record 253 yards in 2011 behind a transitioning OL. As for Jamal Lewis he got 300 carries because he was producing just like Murray got almost 400 carries in 2014 because he was getting it done. McFadden's wasn't named the starter in week one and wasn't receiving many carries because he wasn't producing. He only got his opportunity to start because Randle got hurt and was released.

 

[Doomsday101]

After we wasted how many games with our saviour Randle. Look at facts man he didn't even have many reps while Randle was here. What would he have done if he was our #1 back from the beginning? Who cares we don't need 1800 rushing to be successful, look at the Patriots for one.

I would prefer if we just look at the Cowboys. We had 0 passing game, no one was backing off the line worried about our QB and for the 1st 5 games McFadden got very few carries when he did he came in an produced. I don't think he should be handed the job on opening day of the reg season but I think in camp he should be the starter and earn the starting role. If we pick up someone who shows they are better then great make them the starter but who ever gets it needs to go out and earn it.

 

[CATCH17]

I'm not saying he played poorly I'm saying he was average when you consider he was running behind arguably the best OL in football. Adrain Peterson put up almost 2100 yards in 2012 with a bad QB situation. Ponder had under 3000 yards passing and only 18 TD's. I know Peterson is special but even Murray had more production in 2013 than McFadden.

If you have a great OL and an elite runner they're going to produce regardless who you have at QB. The Rams have a bad QB situation and despite missing 3 games Todd Gurley put up 1106 yards and 10 TD's. Despite Tony Banks and Trent Dilfer at QB in 2000 Jamal Lewis put up 1364 yards and 6 TD's. There's many examples of RBs producing on offenses that didn't have a real passing game.

He finished top 4 in rushing and didn't play the first few games of the year..

He also had a playcaller that told everyteam in the league when we were running and we didn't have a passing game at all that could help us keep drives going..


We need to upgrade the position but McFadden isn't some weakness.

 

[KJJ]

What was your prediction exactly?

I said if McFadden stayed healthy "which I doubted" he would produce somewhere around 700 yards as part of a rotation not thinking he would end up being the starter receiving a "career high" in carries. I predicted Randle would start which he did until he got injured and in trouble again. McFadden received 16 more carries this past season than he received in Oakland in 2010 running behind an average OL but still gained 68 more yards and scored 3 more TD's in 2010.

 

[jnday]

I know Murray was definitely a better back for this offense...but all the doom and gloom about the OLine not being dominant...

"Over the course of the final 11 games,1) McFadden averaged over 87 rushing yards and 20 receiving yards per game on less than 21 touches. Prorate those final 11 games over the course of a season, and you get 1,725 yards on 335 touches (5.15 yards per touch). That would’ve put him third in the entire NFL."

The weirdest part about McFadden to me was how often he'd get chased down once he broke into the open. He's definitely lost a step or two.

He had good numbers , but very little impact. Defenses didn't fear him at all. He showed up every week is his biggest accomplishment.

 

[MRV52]

There's plenty of examples over the years of runners especially in the 70's, 80's and 90's producing with subpar passing games. Marshawn Lynch put up consistently big rushing numbers from 2011 to 2014 with a below average to average passing attack. In 2011 he put up over 1200 yards and 12 TD's with Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehorse at QB. Murray outproduced McFadden twice and once behind an OL in 2013 that had yet to add Martin. The OL was strengthened even more in 2015 by adding Collins.

Murray put up a franchise record 253 yards in 2011 behind a transitioning OL. As for Jamal Lewis he got 300 carries because he was producing just like Murray got almost 400 carries in 2014 because he was getting it done. McFadden's wasn't named the starter in week one and wasn't receiving many carries because he wasn't producing. He only got his opportunity to start because Randle got hurt and was released.

RB isn't our problem on this team not sure what you expect from the guy. If you are are a Murray lover than I can understand.

 

[jterrell]

There's plenty of examples over the years of runners especially in the 70's, 80's and 90's producing with subpar passing games. Marshawn Lynch put up consistently big rushing numbers from 2011 to 2014 with a below average to average passing attack. In 2011 he put up over 1200 yards and 12 TD's with Tavaris Jackson and Charlie Whitehorse at QB. Murray outproduced McFadden twice and once behind an OL in 2013 that had yet to add Martin. The OL was strengthened even more in 2015 by adding Collins.

Murray put up a franchise record 253 yards in 2011 behind a transitioning OL. As for Jamal Lewis he got 300 carries because he was producing just like Murray got almost 400 carries in 2014 because he was getting it done. McFadden's wasn't named the starter in week one and wasn't receiving many carries because he wasn't producing. He only got his opportunity to start because Randle got hurt and was released.

You are so far out in the left field you can't even see the plate.

You have yet to name a RB who hasn; been All Pro, much less a Pro Bowler, much less is AVERAGE.
You've also covered 20 years for your LOTS of examples.

Dude, just stop while you are behind.
Lynch averaged 4.0 yards per carry and 61 yards for game for Buffalo.
McFadden was at 4.6 yards per carry last year and 68 yards per game even when he wasn't a starter added in,
As a starter he averaged 87 yards per game.
OH and Beastmode is NOT AVERAGE.

 

[Doomsday101]

He had good numbers , but very little impact. Defenses didn't fear him at all. He showed up every week is his biggest accomplishment.

I think had we had any type of passing game his numbers and impact would be greater. I did not expect McFadden to carry the offense but I think if you give defense something to worry about behind center then his impact would have been much better

 

[jterrell]

He had good numbers , but very little impact. Defenses didn't fear him at all. He showed up every week is his biggest accomplishment.

who had an impact last year?

 

[JoeKing]

Let the training camp competition sort that out. We should always be seeking good talent at all positions but only give the starting jobs to the guys that earn it at practice.

 

[KJJ]

I saw it as better than avg playing with no QB. Yes Romo played vs Carolina and got us behind the 8 ball quick with int for TD and then would throw another in the 2nd. Fact is he was 4th overall in the NFL that can't be disputed it is fact people can spin as they choose but it is what it is and did this with no QB

Due to the Cowboys QB situation they were forced to lean on the running game and McFadden still couldn't crack 1100 yards or more than 3 TDs behind the best OL in football. Would you be satisfied in 2016 if McFadden starts and duplicates his production from 2015? Do you think those rushing numbers and TD's will take enough pressure off Romo that he can stay healthy and not have to carry the offense like he did in the opener?

 

[Doomsday101]

who had an impact last year?

I do think Murray had a big impact especially down in the redzone. Problem with Dallas in my view was not the running game it was the fact there was no passing game. With Murray defense could not just tee off on him they had to defend Romo ability which helps offense stay balance and defense off balance

 

[jterrell]

I do think Murray had a big impact especially down in the redzone. Problem with Dallas in my view was not the running game it was the fact there was no passing game. With Murray defense could not just tee off on him they had to defend Romo ability which helps offense stay balance and defense off balance

Murray had zero impact in 2015 which was my question. Unless you mean the impact of getting Chip Kelly fired.
If DMC did not have an impact in 2015 for Dallas who did?

We won 4 games, so no one had an impact. Not a single one of those Pro Bowlers really impacted games or we'd have won more games.
And some of those guys are the best in the league at their position.

It is a CLEARLY pointless statement is what I was pointing out.

 

[KJJ]

RB isn't our problem on this team not sure what you expect from the guy. If you are are a Murray lover than I can understand.

With Romo aging and suffering injuries every year the running game we saw this season wasn't productive enough to keep him from having to win games on his own. He carried the team to a win in the opener attempting 45 passes and having to win the game on a last ditch drive. The running game was so ineffective he was using the backs as receivers because they combined for under 4.0 a carry.

Romo was on pace for another 40+ passing attempt game vs Philly when he was in injured in week 2. He won't last half the season in 2016 if we continue to struggle running the ball on 3rd and short. There's no excuse for being the worst team in the league on 3rd and one having arguably the best OL in football.