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That was posted on NFL's twitter feed. The league is watching this... So incredibly dumb by Levis. He's gained 5 pounds of muscle, and lost millions in money. (My read on it, anyways)
 

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Most linemen don't have thighs that big. Be shocked if he didn't have "enhancements" of some kind. BTW I read it didn't help his cause with decision makers.
 

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That was posted on NFL's twitter feed. The league is watching this... So incredibly dumb by Levis. He's gained 5 pounds of muscle, and lost millions in money. (My read on it, anyway)

Every single prospect at the combine, including Levis, was drug tested and I have heard of no reports of Levis testing positive. In fact, I have never heard of Levis testing positive for PEDs at the college level either. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am not aware that Levis has ever tested positive for PEDs at any level, correct?

I find it very hard to believe any NFL team would take Levis off their board because he looks jacked in a couple of bathroom pics despite never testing positive for PEDs in his life.

So the dude has never tested positive for PEDs in his life, but he lost millions because he took a couple of bathroom pics looking jacked.:huh:
 

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Every single prospect at the combine, including Levis, was drug tested and I have heard of no reports of Levis testing positive. In fact, I have never heard of Levis testing positive for PEDs at the college level either. Correct me if I am wrong, but I am not aware that Levis has ever tested positive for PEDs at any level, correct?

I find it very hard to believe any NFL team would take Levis off their board because he looks jacked in a couple of bathroom pics despite never testing positive for PEDs in his life.

So the dude has never tested positive for PEDs in his life, but he lost millions because he took a couple of bathroom pics looking jacked.:huh:
I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this bizarre selfie would get posted on the NFL official Twitter stream. They post lots of draftee bathroom selfies, don't they on their official Twitter channel? :rolleyes:

And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Levis has been falling out of the top-ten in the past few weeks. :rolleyes:

This guy is going to crash down the boards. Stuuupid füül.
 

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I'm sure it's just a coincidence that this bizarre selfie would get posted on the NFL official Twitter stream. They post lots of draftee bathroom selfies, don't they on their official Twitter channel? :rolleyes:

And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that Levis has been falling out of the top-ten in the past few weeks. :rolleyes:

This guy is going to crash down the boards. Stuuupid füül.
I’m really confused by this in 2 ways…

1. You think the NFL is purposely promoting a prospect on steroids? You think that would be good for their branding??

2. Why would adding muscle hurt his draft stock? You can argue if Levis deserved to be top 10 from the beginning, but how would this hurt him and make him “crash down the boards”?

Literally makes 0 sense.
 

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I have not seen anything that indicates that his draft stock is imploding. All I know is that the ball absolutely explodes out of his hand.
 

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Don’t believe you need all that bulk to play QB. Brady and Manning focused on being fit but not bulking. Lots of stretching and resistance training instead of weight training to focus on core stability and agility.
 

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I’m really confused by this in 2 ways…

1. You think the NFL is purposely promoting a prospect on steroids? You think that would be good for their branding??

2. Why would adding muscle hurt his draft stock? You can argue if Levis deserved to be top 10 from the beginning, but how would this hurt him and make him “crash down the boards”?

Literally makes 0 sense.
He's getting publicly mocked. (IMO) And when you look around at other NFL insider messaging you hear this:

"Arrogance, entitlement. Plus just bizarre." - tweet from NFLDraft Bites.

Saw another tweet comparing him to Johnny Manziel.

That 8 week muscle-build is highly suspic.
 

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He's getting publicly mocked. (IMO) And when you look around at other NFL insider messaging you hear this:

"Arrogance, entitlement. Plus just bizarre." - tweet from NFLDraft Bites.

Saw another tweet comparing him to Johnny Manziel.

That 8 week muscle-build is highly suspic.
There are some reports that he has bombed some interviews, seemed really nervous and didnt really impress teams with his knowledge of plays, ect....

I have heard of no reports that teams are concerned that he has used PEDs.

So, to me at least, it seems like the bathroom pics really dont have anything to do with his draft stock falling, it just appears he is a bad interviewer. Maybe he has social anxiety and gets real nervous and cant think straight in these interviews or something like that.

And yes, you can add significant muscle build in only 8 weeks if you train hours per day (muscle and cardio) and have strict nutrition (low carb, mainly complex only, and high protein, although this can increase your creatin levels to an unsafe level).

I worked as an assistant to an athletic trainer while at UT..............like I said, it is possible to "get jacked" like Levis apparently did in just 8 weeks without PEDs, but I would not recommend it, could be dangerous as I mentioned above.
 

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I have heard of no reports that teams are concerned that he has used PEDs.
Taboo to talk about. Such talk in these days get you into trouble all kinds of ways. Teams aren't going to say it. League isn't going to say it. Media isn't going to say it. The league's curious reposting of the tweet is statement enough.
I worked as an assistant to an athletic trainer while at UT
Dealing with bad hamstrings or twisted ankles in a secondary intern capacity 20 years ago (?) doesn't seem remotely relevant to the discussion, nor give you special credibility in the discussion. No more than the 3 medical doctors and other multiple Phd's in my family affords me.
 

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Dealing with bad hamstrings or twisted ankles in a secondary intern capacity 20 years ago (?) doesn't seem remotely relevant to the discussion, nor give you special credibility in the discussion. No more than the 3 medical doctors and other multiple Phd's in my family affords me.
I was speaking specifically about nutrition and weight training in terms of building muscle mass..............carbs, proteins, and lipids have not changed bro, same principles still apply.

You just seem to be confusing correlation and causation.

Person A looks jacked.............people who use PEDS look jacked...........therefore person A must be using PEDS. (logical fallacy)

Just because using PEDs can make one look jacked (correlation) does not automatically mean that person is using PEDs (causation)............other factors, like nutrition and training could be the reason a person looks jacked, you just cant automatically assume that correlation dictates causation.
 

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There are some reports that he has bombed some interviews, seemed really nervous and didnt really impress teams with his knowledge of plays, ect....

I have heard of no reports that teams are concerned that he has used PEDs.

So, to me at least, it seems like the bathroom pics really dont have anything to do with his draft stock falling, it just appears he is a bad interviewer. Maybe he has social anxiety and gets real nervous and cant think straight in these interviews or something like that.

And yes, you can add significant muscle build in only 8 weeks if you train hours per day (muscle and cardio) and have strict nutrition (low carb, mainly complex only, and high protein, although this can increase your creatin levels to an unsafe level).

I worked as an assistant to an athletic trainer while at UT..............like I said, it is possible to "get jacked" like Levis apparently did in just 8 weeks without PEDs, but I would not recommend it, could be dangerous as I mentioned above.
If he can't handle interviews would be a huge red flag, anxiety issues from interviews is < playing in the spotlight in front of millions.
 

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If he can't handle interviews would be a huge red flag, anxiety issues from interviews is < playing in the spotlight in front of millions.
Excellent point my friend..........if you get so nervous in an interview that you literally freeze up and cant remember plays, formations, ect....

Then what is going to happen when there is 2:00 left in a road playoff game and the team is down by a TD and you are playing in front of 80,000 hostile people and another 35 million watching on TV and you got to drive the team 75 yards to tie the game?

Is your anxiety going to kick in at that point?

I would be way more concerned about this than some rumors the dude used PEDs to recover from an injury.
 

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Are people here saying that he couldn't have gained 4 pounds of muscle in 3 months? And as for the trick photography of lighting and probably filters, meh.
 
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