Will The Costa-Haters still hate If he shows improvement?

[SilverStarCowboy]

I didn't have to look up the source or the reasons for the ratings and I really don't take this stuff serious enough to get mad. I expect the worse when it comes to the center and guard positions. Undrafted free agents, late round picks and free agent jags are short on talent and tend to keep expectations low.

How or why anyone would want or regret revamping from Huson Houck, Cory Proctor, Mark Columbo, Leonard Davis, Montrea Holland, Kyle Kosier ZERO of which are even on an NFL Roster, plus moving Free back to the RT position, to what is entrenched on the Roster now, that my FRIENDS, is a true mystery for the ages.

 

[Idgit]

I didn't have to look up the source or the reasons for the ratings and I really don't take this stuff serious enough to get mad. I expect the worse when it comes to the center and guard positions. Undrafted free agents, late round picks and free agent jags are short on talent and tend to keep expectations low.

Fair enough. That's how many teams in the league source their interior OL positions--because so much at those positions depends on NFL development, anyway. But I really was just curious what the source of the particular ranking your were citing was. Rankings have varying worth to begin with---some are better than others, but none that I'm aware of really evaluate play the way NFL teams do. I give them about as much weight as I do the NFL Network's Top 100 players of 2011 rankings. Which is to say, not very much.

 

[FuzzyLumpkins]

I liked gimme's post from earlier and agree with it. He gets off balance and pushed around all too often. When he can fire off he is strong enough to get the job done but if you can get up into his chest very quickly or force him to move laterally he ends up off balance and on the turf.

I remember that Commanders game where Bowen had him tossing the ball over Romo's head and Cofield clubbed him to the ground over and again when he lunged to make contact.

It might be patience. It might be technique. It may be experience. It might be physically unable to play the position. I don't know but what I do know is that we need to get better at the position from what we got last year.

If its him then I will not hate. The guys that develop and become quality over time are the mark of a successful program. Player development is huge.

 

[jnday]

How or why anyone would want or regret revamping from Huson Houck, Cory Proctor, Mark Columbo, Leonard Davis, Montrea Holland, Kyle Kosier ZERO of which are even on an NFL Roster, plus moving Free back to the RT position, to what is entrenched on the Roster now, that my FRIENDS, is a true mystery for the ages.

I had a problem with Houck until I realized that he had little talent to work with. He did a great job with Tyron which proved to me that he only needed some talent to coach. I have no problem with revamping the line. I have a problem with the low quality talent that is being used to revamp and protect Romo. There has been very little upgrading with the exception of Tyron. They are throwing mud against the wall and hoping some of it sticks. That is too much of a gamble.

 

[CrazyMonster]

He sucks.

When will Costa apologists accept this fact?

:starspin

 

[burmafrd]

Quick...

Risen Star
Burmashave

woosienickie as usual is wrong.

but he has decided that Costa was OK and wil never admit otherwise

By the way Gurode started for us I believe for 2 years at Guard so calling him a complete failure by another poster with his head in the sand is of course wrong. He was mediocre to average at Guard, which was ten times better then Costa was. Costa by the way had more bad snaps last year then Gurode had in his entire career, congratulations.

 

[burmafrd]

I didn't have to look up the source or the reasons for the ratings and I really don't take this stuff serious enough to get mad. I expect the worse when it comes to the center and guard positions. Undrafted free agents, late round picks and free agent jags are short on talent and tend to keep expectations low.

PFF (pro football focus) had him at 30th for the year. Which shows just how bad he was at the beginning.

By the way I think very little of PFF's ratings since they lump TFL on first down with a sack on 3rd down as equivalent, among other head scratchers

 

[Zordon]

If you love Romo, you should hate Costa. :

(not the person, the fact that he might start again)

 

[Stash]

the better question is whether Costa haters would prefer that he continues to suck so that they can be right OR whether they would prefer that he actually improved.

I don't think this mindset truly exists here.

People may be tough on Costa and a lot of the criticisms was deserved. But ultimately we're all fans who want him to play well and help this team win.

I hope he steps up and plays well and is good enough to win the starting job. But I don't want to see the team struggle if they have no viable alternative if Costa does not improve.

 

[ilovejerry]

If during training camp and the pre-season Costa shows improvement in strength and technique and beats out all comers.. Will you say he still sucks? And his arms are too short. Or will you conceed that he just needed a full offseason and better players around him?

I hope he stays on personal friends with my DR.

 

[Boys122]

Gurode wasn't even smart enough to make the line calls..

Did Gurode neutralize the nose tackle and make good snaps when he played center for us? I believe he did, he struggled a little but adjusted he wasn't the best at line calls but for the most part he played the position way better than Costa ever could imagine.

The way teams are changing to the 3-4 defense guys like Costa won't make it long in this league.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

woosienickie as usual is wrong.

but he has decided that Costa was OK and wil never admit otherwise

By the way Gurode started for us I believe for 2 years at Guard so calling him a complete failure by another poster with his head in the sand is of course wrong. He was mediocre to average at Guard, which was ten times better then Costa was. Costa by the way had more bad snaps last year then Gurode had in his entire career, congratulations.

As usual... You got it wrong.

I don't think anyone said Costa was "OK".

What was typed (maybe some new specs would help) was that he improved as the season went along. Which is true.

The smarter fans are saying, "Hey lets see what Costa brings to the table this year before we write him off completely".

And then you have the other fans... Sigh.

And yes, Gurode was a flop at guard. That's why he was moved to center.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Did Gurode neutralize the nose tackle and make good snaps when he played center for us? I believe he did, he struggled a little but adjusted he wasn't the best at line calls but for the most part he played the position way better than Costa ever could imagine.

The way teams are changing to the 3-4 defense guys like Costa won't make it long in this league.

Actually Costa played best vs the big, lumbering 3-4 lineman like Soliai, who Costa pretty much nuetralized in their matchup.

 

[Boys122]

Yeah, but Gurode was originally drafted to play center, it was Bill Parcells who tried him at guard then realized he was better at center.

 

[Boys122]

Actually Costa played best vs the big, lumbering 3-4 lineman like Soliai, who Costa pretty much nuetralized in their matchup.

I'll give him credit for one game, but can he do it throughout the entire season?

Any one player can give it their all one game and disappear after. Costa isn't consistent enough to be an every day starter at center IMO.

 

[SilverStarCowboy]

A good Oline works together as one.

Five to seven young Offensive Lineman together for the very first time in 2011, without an Offseason.


We should write them off.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Yeah, but Gurode was originally drafted to play center, it was Bill Parcells who tried him at guard then realized he was better at center.

No... That's not true.

Gurode definitely was not drafted as a center.

Him playing center was an afterthought because he had not played well at guard.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

I'll give him credit for one game, but can he do it throughout the entire season?

Any one player can give it their all one game and disappear after. Costa isn't consistent enough to be an every day starter at center IMO.

And he may not.

And if not, then the Cowboys will need to have an alternate plan.

 

[xwalker]

My experience is that CZ posters always formulate their opinions calmly & rationally, modifying them as new data emerges, and readily confessing where they may have been wrong previously if that results.

I expect nothing different in regards to Costa.

 

[Langonelives]

If during training camp and the pre-season Costa shows improvement in strength and technique and beats out all comers.. Will you say he still sucks? And his arms are too short. Or will you conceed that he just needed a full offseason and better players around him?

The fact is last year he sucked. If he improves and can be a decent center obviously the hate will go away. All he has to beat out this year is another UDFA, whcih shouldn't be hard. He was not ready last year.