Will the offensive scheme really change under Schott?

[Rockport]

You don't even know what his philosophy is, let alone if he even has one.

Right, he’s only been coaching for 3 decades is it?

 

[Ranching]

When you promote an in-house assistant to HC you want to keep continuity and don't force your players to learn a brand new scheme. Terminology is going to be the same, but will the scheme really change under Schott? We have heard that he wanted to tweak MM's system to add more modern concepts, but that never happened.

What we do know:

-Schott will be the primary play caller this season
-Has brought in young, coaches that he has no prior affliction with.
-Our new OC, is a former OL and TE assistant coach, which suggests a strong run background.
-They brought in several college coaches from different backgrounds

-I was around for the Schott's years with the Jets; ground and pound. Elite rushing team. Had limitations at QB.
-Heard his Seattle stop, he wanted to have Wilson throw more, but Carroll wanted a more conservative run 1st offense.
Two drastic differences, which tells me he will devise his scheme around his players strengths, not his scheme.

It's not always about scheme, it's more about having the talent to run the scheme and the buy in that you get from that talent.

 

[Cowboyny]

It's not always about scheme, it's more about having the talent to run the scheme and the buy in that you get from that talent.

Also it is executing the scheme.

 

[TNCowboy]

No way of knowing until we see it in action, but OC title or not, he had little more input into the kind of offense the Cowboys ran last year than one of us here did.

 

[quickccc]

What I'd like to see from. Schoty new offense is a scheme designed to get players open and on the move..that was thr concept of the rhythm time based offense vs the stop and comeback dink dunk methodical McCarthy offense .

Hopefully schotty and Ken dorsey implement a pass design to scheme players open.., bunch formations.., rub routes,.pushing the ball downfield...creatively .scheming RBs into the pass game..

 

[Johannes44]

Right, he’s only been coaching for 3 decades is it?

And that means what? What exactly is his philosophy from his 3 decade stint as a coach? Go on, let's hear it.

 

[darthseinfeld]

When you promote an in-house assistant to HC you want to keep continuity and don't force your players to learn a brand new scheme. Terminology is going to be the same, but will the scheme really change under Schott? We have heard that he wanted to tweak MM's system to add more modern concepts, but that never happened.

What we do know:

-Schott will be the primary play caller this season
-Has brought in young, coaches that he has no prior affliction with.
-Our new OC, is a former OL and TE assistant coach, which suggests a strong run background.
-They brought in several college coaches from different backgrounds

-I was around for the Schott's years with the Jets; ground and pound. Elite rushing team. Had limitations at QB.
-Heard his Seattle stop, he wanted to have Wilson throw more, but Carroll wanted a more conservative run 1st offense.
Two drastic differences, which tells me he will devise his scheme around his players strengths, not his scheme.

I think based on our coaching hires and taking an OG at 12, I think there will be a strong emphasis on the run. I think the personnel packages will be interesting. Will you see alot of 12 personnel? Could be. Schoonmaker looked alot better last year in both the pass game, and as a blocker. That could make 12 packages a viable option on 1st down and 3rd and short

 

[Ranching]

Also it is executing the scheme.

I was gonna say that, but I saw stupid comments coming.....so I tried to insinuate it...

 

[DCreppinBoysfan]

Hopefully, they add some WCO stuff and use a lot of motion and quick release plays.

This team has the personnel for it and it could help with the run game.

That’s not advantageous to Dak. He needs time to read and process. Quick reads means quick turnovers for Dak

 

[Rockport]

And that means what? What exactly is his philosophy from his 3 decade stint as a coach? Go on, let's hear it.

You need help.

 

[Johannes44]

You need help.

so nothing as usual?

 

[Rockport]

Also it is executing the scheme.

As Ranch said, that’s what talent and buying into the scheme gets you. Good execution.

 

[fivetwos]

It’s about what Coach Jerry would “like to see more of.”

That’s not me ripping into the guy. He has publicly admitted he does that. They fail repeatedly. Go ahead and say that has nothing to do with things.

 

[Cowboyny]

What I'd like to see from. Schoty new offense is a scheme designed to get players open and on the move..that was thr concept of the rhythm time based offense vs the stop and comeback dink dunk methodical McCarthy offense .

Hopefully schotty and Ken dorsey implement a pass design to scheme players open.., bunch formations.., rub routes,.pushing the ball downfield...creatively .scheming RBs into the pass game..

I hope these young college coaches have some input in putting the scheme together.

 

[Cowboyny]

As Ranch said, that’s what talent and buying into the scheme gets you. Good execution.

You know this team has self destructed for years with mental mistakes, that might be the biggest area to fix

 

[Whyjerry]

#Shotty has a demonstrated history of being a garbage OC. That’s why he never became a head coach and Jerry is the only guy dumb enough to hire him. We best remember that.

Our hope is that he has VERY little to do with the offense.

 

[Rockport]

You know this team has self destructed for years with mental mistakes, that might be the biggest area to fix

Yeah, the coaching sucked.

 

[gimmesix]

When you promote an in-house assistant to HC you want to keep continuity and don't force your players to learn a brand new scheme. Terminology is going to be the same, but will the scheme really change under Schott? We have heard that he wanted to tweak MM's system to add more modern concepts, but that never happened.

What we do know:

-Schott will be the primary play caller this season
-Has brought in young, coaches that he has no prior affliction with.
-Our new OC, is a former OL and TE assistant coach, which suggests a strong run background.
-They brought in several college coaches from different backgrounds

-I was around for the Schott's years with the Jets; ground and pound. Elite rushing team. Had limitations at QB.
-Heard his Seattle stop, he wanted to have Wilson throw more, but Carroll wanted a more conservative run 1st offense.
Two drastic differences, which tells me he will devise his scheme around his players strengths, not his scheme.

With Klayton Adams as OL coach, the Arizona Cardinals were one of the top gap-blocking teams in the league, using at least one pulling offensive lineman on just under two thirds of their run plays in 2024. They also found great success running counter, finishing second in the NFL in counter run plays but showing a wide variation of formations they ran it from.

They excelled in pass protection too: their 28.0% pressure rate was the sixth-best in the league, ranking one spot ahead of the Cowboys, despite losing both starting tackles to injured reserve and playing with a quarterback in Kyler Murray whose frequent scrambling ability often makes it harder on the offensive line to hold up.

Part of this was accomplished through an insanely high play-action rate, something Schottenheimer has already mentioned as a priority for his offense. Only three other quarterbacks had a higher play-action rate than Murray last year, and only four quarterbacks threw for more yards off play-action.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...dams-brian-schottenheimer-run-game-tight-ends

 

[Cowboyny]

With Klayton Adams as OL coach, the Arizona Cardinals were one of the top gap-blocking teams in the league, using at least one pulling offensive lineman on just under two thirds of their run plays in 2024. They also found great success running counter, finishing second in the NFL in counter run plays but showing a wide variation of formations they ran it from.

They excelled in pass protection too: their 28.0% pressure rate was the sixth-best in the league, ranking one spot ahead of the Cowboys, despite losing both starting tackles to injured reserve and playing with a quarterback in Kyler Murray whose frequent scrambling ability often makes it harder on the offensive line to hold up.

Part of this was accomplished through an insanely high play-action rate, something Schottenheimer has already mentioned as a priority for his offense. Only three other quarterbacks had a higher play-action rate than Murray last year, and only four quarterbacks threw for more yards off play-action.

https://www.bloggingtheboys.com/202...dams-brian-schottenheimer-run-game-tight-ends

Dak has always been excellent in play action, however, to effectively work they have to establish a ground game teams respect. Also, would like to see Dak more under center to help disguise their intentions, this really helped Murray as well.