Winning Super Bowl Quarterbacks tend to be HOFers

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Quarterbacks that win Super Bowls tend to end up in the Hall of Fame or at least an All Pro - check out this list (Note: I've already pronounced P Manning, Favre, Roethlisberger, Warner and Brady HOF...I think Brees and Rodger will also be HOF, but it's early.) I italicized the QBs that were not HOF, MVP, or multiple Pro Bowlers. Plunkett, Stabler, and Theismann were pretty solid even if not quite HOFers.

  • SB 1 Starr (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 2 Starr (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 3 Namath (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 4 Dawson (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 5 Unitas (HOF)
  • SB 6 Staubach (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 7 Griese (HOF)
  • SB 8 Griese (HOF)
  • SB 9 Bradshaw (HOF)
  • SB 10 Bradshaw (HOF)
  • SB 11 Stabler (HOF finalist)
  • SB 12 Staubach (HOF)
  • SB 13 Bradshaw (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 14 Bradshaw (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 15 Plunkett (MVP)
  • SB 16 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 17 Theismann (2x Pro Bowler)
  • SB 18 Plunkett
  • SB 19 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 20 McMahon
  • SB 21 Simms (MVP)
  • SB 22 Williams (MVP)
  • SB 23 Montana (HOF)
  • SB 24 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 25 Hostetler
  • SB 26 Rypien (MVP)
  • SB 27 Aikman (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 28 Aikman (HOF)
  • SB 29 Young (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 30 Aikman (HOF)
  • SB 31 Favre (HOF)
  • SB 32 Elway (HOF)
  • SB 33 Elway (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 34 Warner (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 35 Dilfer
  • SB 36 Brady (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 37 Johnson
  • SB 38 Brady (MVP)
  • SB 39 Brady (HOF)
  • SB 40 Roethlisberger (HOF)
  • SB 41 P Manning (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 42 E Manning (MVP)
  • SB 43 Roethlisberger (HOF)
  • SB 44 Brees (MVP, HOF?)
  • SB 45 Rogers (MVP, HOF?)
  • SB 46 E Manning (MVP)
  • SB 47 Flacco (MVP)
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5011111 said:
Quarterbacks that win Super Bowls tend to end up in the Hall of Fame or at least an All Pro - check out this list (Note: I've already pronounced P Manning, Favre, Roethlisberger, Warner and Brady HOF...I think Brees and Rodger will also be HOF, but it's early.) I italicized the QBs that were not HOF, MVP, or multiple Pro Bowlers. Plunkett, Stabler, and Theismann were pretty solid even if not quite HOFers.

  • SB 1 Starr (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 2 Starr (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 3 Namath (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 4 Dawson (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 5 Unitas (HOF)
  • SB 6 Staubach (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 7 Griese (HOF)
  • SB 8 Griese (HOF)
  • SB 9 Bradshaw (HOF)
  • SB 10 Bradshaw (HOF)
  • SB 11 Stabler (HOF finalist)
  • SB 12 Staubach (HOF)
  • SB 13 Bradshaw (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 14 Bradshaw (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 15 Plunkett (MVP)
  • SB 16 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 17 Theismann (2x Pro Bowler)
  • SB 18 Plunkett
  • SB 19 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 20 McMahon
  • SB 21 Simms (MVP)
  • SB 22 Williams (MVP)
  • SB 23 Montana (HOF)
  • SB 24 Montana (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 25 Hostetler
  • SB 26 Rypien (MVP)
  • SB 27 Aikman (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 28 Aikman (HOF)
  • SB 29 Young (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 30 Aikman (HOF)
  • SB 31 Favre (HOF)
  • SB 32 Elway (HOF)
  • SB 33 Elway (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 34 Warner (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 35 Dilfer
  • SB 36 Brady (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 37 Johnson
  • SB 38 Brady (MVP)
  • SB 39 Brady (HOF)
  • SB 40 Roethlisberger (HOF)
  • SB 41 P Manning (MVP, HOF)
  • SB 42 E Manning (MVP)
  • SB 43 Roethlisberger (HOF)
  • SB 44 Brees (MVP, HOF?)
  • SB 45 Rogers (MVP, HOF?)
  • SB 46 E Manning (MVP)
  • SB 47 Flacco (MVP)

Somewhere Jim Plunkett just died a little.
 

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Flacco will end up like Eli Manning.

Eli > Joe

However, they are both wildly inconsistant players who got hot in the playoffs. A Super Bowl Title cures a lot of ills...at least for a few years.

As an article said in ESPN.com said this weekend

much like Eli Manning ($20.85 million cap hit in 2013) this past season, Flacco could find himself sitting at home watching the playoffs.


Given the Ravens' other personnel needs, we might look back on this contract and realize the Ravens didn't just lock up their franchise quarterback for the long term -- they took a risk that might hurt the team for years to come.

It also said that the Ravens made theplayoffs is spite of Flacco being terrible this year.
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5011111 said:
[*]SB 34 Warner (MVP, HOF)
[*]SB 35 Dilfer
[*]SB 36 Brady (MVP, HOF)
[*]SB 37 Johnson
[*]SB 38 Brady (MVP)
[*]SB 39 Brady (HOF)
[*]SB 40 Roethlisberger (HOF)
[*]SB 41 P Manning (MVP, HOF)
[*]SB 42 E Manning (MVP)
[*]SB 43 Roethlisberger (HOF)
[*]SB 44 Brees (MVP, HOF?)
[*]SB 45 Rogers (MVP, HOF?)

[*]SB 46 E Manning (MVP)
[*]SB 47 Flacco (MVP)
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Why the ? for Brees and Rogers, but not Warner and Roethlisberger?
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5014387 said:
They had been playing longer, but I suspect they will get in.

Okay. Just to let you know, Brees joined the NFL in 2001. Big Ben started in 2004.
 

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47 Super Bowls

31 winning quarterbacks, or 2 every 3 SBs.

At least 19 of them will be in the HOF...that number may go as high as 24. (Think it's at least 21 to include Rodgers and Brees.) A HOF quarterback plays every 2 to 3 SBs.

20 of them have been the MVP 26 times.

These numbers are subjective: maybe 12 of the winning quarterbacks will never be in the HOF, and that includes Stabler and Plunkett, who might eventually get in (anti-Raiders bias?) Only about five quarterbacks (like Dilfer) definitely won't be HOF.

Maybe 3 out of 4 SBs are won by a HOFer
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5014428 said:
Statistics

47 Super Bowls

31 winning quarterbacks, or 2 every 3 SBs.

At least 19 of them will be in the HOF...that number may go as high as 24. (Think it's at least 21 to include Rodgers and Brees.) A HOF quarterback plays every 2 to 3 SBs.

20 of them have been the MVP 26 times.

These numbers are subjective: maybe 12 of the winning quarterbacks will never be in the HOF, and that includes Stabler and Plunkett, who might eventually get in (anti-Raiders bias?) Only about five quarterbacks (like Dilfer) definitely won't be HOF.

I think it takes having a very good QB to contend for titles yearly and eventually win one or two. Still it takes a complete team as well. When you have a great team, it elevates the QB. As we all know, the QB gets most of the credit when teams win, so it isn't surprising that QBs who have won SBs eventually make into the HoF.

I don't know about an anti-Raiders bias. Interesting question. Stabler is deserving in my opinion. Plunkett is not. Plunkett had many just crappy years. Even in the years when the Raiders won the Superbowl, he wasn't lighting it up.

Plunkett never lead the league in any significant category. He finished in the top ten in passer rating only twice in his career, with 9th being his best season. Stabler led the league a couple of times in completion percentage and TD passes and once in passer rating. He also finished in the top ten 5 times for passer rating.
 

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joseephuss;5014472 said:
I think it takes having a very good QB to contend for titles yearly and eventually win one or two. Still it takes a complete team as well. When you have a great team, it elevates the QB. As we all know, the QB gets most of the credit when teams win, so it isn't surprising that QBs who have won SBs eventually make into the HoF.

I don't know about an anti-Raiders bias. Interesting question. Stabler is deserving in my opinion. Plunkett is not. Plunkett had many just crappy years. Even in the years when the Raiders won the Superbowl, he wasn't lighting it up.

Plunkett never lead the league in any significant category. He finished in the top ten in passer rating only twice in his career, with 9th being his best season. Stabler led the league a couple of times in completion percentage and TD passes and once in passer rating. He also finished in the top ten 5 times for passer rating.

Shut your mouth! Plunkett should be in the HOF!

/Heavily biased. Went to the same high school as Plunkett my first two years(James Lick), and my mom grew up with him. His family lived around the corner from me.
//True story. She still has her Jr. High yearbooks with Plunketts pictures all over them.
///He has his fly down in one of them
////Don't say anything about my mom!
\Plunkett. HOF. Yeah!
 

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muck4doo;5014730 said:
Shut your mouth! Plunkett should be in the HOF!

/Heavily biased. Went to the same high school as Plunkett my first two years(James Lick), and my mom grew up with him. His family lived around the corner from me.
//True story. She still has her Jr. High yearbooks with Plunketts pictures all over them.
///He has his fly down in one of them
////Don't say anything about my mom!
\Plunkett. HOF. Yeah!

You would fit right in with the HoF selection committee. They actually think of sillier reasons to elect someone into the Hall. :D
 

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It's not just Stabler and Plunkett are not in the HOF, but Ray Guy not inducted raises my suspicions of an anti-Raiders bias.

Or maybe most of the committee is biased towards their home on the East Coast....not many Broncos in the HOF either.
 

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BringBackThatOleTimeBoys;5014804 said:
It's not just Stabler and Plunkett are not in the HOF, but Ray Guy not inducted raises my suspicions of an anti-Raiders bias.

Or maybe most of the committee is biased towards their home on the East Coast....not many Broncos in the HOF either.

Ray Guy not being in has nothing to do with him being a Raider. It is all about him being a punter. There are no pure punters in the HoF and only one pure kicker(Jan Stenerud).

The Broncos have as many representatives as they have earned. They have had many very good players, but few truly great players.
 

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Granted, Ray Guy being a punter makes his case hard, but shouldn't the greatest punter of all time be in the HOF?

Many Bronco fans think Randy Gradishar should be in and tend to agree with them.
 
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