Wisconsin defensive end J.J. Watt turned in a fantastic workout at the combine

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The one perhaps making the biggest impact, however, is Wisconsin's J.J. Watt. After watching Watt (6-5, 290) run the 40-yard dash in 4.78 seconds, NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock called him the "prototype" for a five-technique defensive end.

Wisconsin defensive end J.J. Watt runs a drill at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Monday, Feb. 28, 2011. (AP Photo) "I think one of the 3-4 teams will love him in the top half of the first round," Mayock said.

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The key numbers to remember are 7, 9 and 11. That's where the 3-4 teams such as San Francisco, Dallas and Houston select in the first round. One of those spots would be the peak of where Watt gets drafted.



Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...-jj-watt-moving-up-draft-boards#ixzz1FJXHcrs7
 
cowboyjoe;3861579 said:
http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/story/2011-02-28/wisconsins-jj-watt-moving-up-draft-boards


21618-650-366.jpg

The one perhaps making the biggest impact, however, is Wisconsin's J.J. Watt. After watching Watt (6-5, 290) run the 40-yard dash in 4.78 seconds, NFL Network draft analyst Mike Mayock called him the "prototype" for a five-technique defensive end.

Wisconsin defensive end J.J. Watt runs a drill at the NFL Scouting Combine in Indianapolis, Monday, Feb. 28, 2011. (AP Photo) "I think one of the 3-4 teams will love him in the top half of the first round," Mayock said.

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The key numbers to remember are 7, 9 and 11. That's where the 3-4 teams such as San Francisco, Dallas and Houston select in the first round. One of those spots would be the peak of where Watt gets drafted.



Read more: http://www.sportingnews.com/nfl/sto...-jj-watt-moving-up-draft-boards#ixzz1FJXHcrs7

So hard to pull the trigger at #9, but man the dude is exactly the type of player this team needs (mean).
 
Joe Rod;3861803 said:
So hard to pull the trigger at #9, but man the dude is exactly the type of player this team needs (mean).

I wouldn't be upset if we took him.

I love talented players who play with high energy.
 
CATCH17;3861845 said:
I wouldn't be upset if we took him.

I love talented players who play with high energy.

At #9 I would be. I just can't take a 3-4 DE at #9 unless you were getting someone like Suh, Seymour, or even Fairley. (Fairley on talent alone, I think he has bust potential due to being lazy)
 
nyc;3861860 said:
At #9 I would be. I just can't take a 3-4 DE at #9 unless you were getting someone like Suh, Seymour, or even Fairley. (Fairley on talent alone, I think he has bust potential due to being lazy)


.......alot of you guys are settling IMHO. This guy is a top twenty pick, not a top ten pick. He's a nice, solid player with a great attitude, motor and work ethic who is a little undersized. So.....he reminds me of Leroy Glover back in the day. Nice, hard working team oriented dlineman. A top ten pick? NO.
 
newlander;3863159 said:
.......alot of you guys are settling IMHO. This guy is a top twenty pick, not a top ten pick. He's a nice, solid player with a great attitude, motor and work ethic who is a little undersized. So.....he reminds me of Leroy Glover back in the day. Nice, hard working team oriented dlineman. A top ten pick? NO.

He's not undersized at 6-5, 290 plus. He is very lean and strong and moves extremely well. He will not lose a step when he add's another 10 lbs. He is about the closet thing to a prototype 3-4 DE you can find. Glover was about 6-3 tops.

Assuming you were speaking of Watt?
 
newlander;3863159 said:
.......alot of you guys are settling IMHO. This guy is a top twenty pick, not a top ten pick. He's a nice, solid player with a great attitude, motor and work ethic who is a little undersized. So.....he reminds me of Leroy Glover back in the day. Nice, hard working team oriented dlineman. A top ten pick? NO.
Are you kidding me? You're saying LaRoi Glover wasn't a top 10 pick?

I love JJ Watt, but he is not in Laroi Glover's league, and I've been touting him for the past 3 months.
 
newlander;3863159 said:
.......alot of you guys are settling IMHO. This guy is a top twenty pick, not a top ten pick. He's a nice, solid player with a great attitude, motor and work ethic who is a little undersized. So.....he reminds me of Leroy Glover back in the day. Nice, hard working team oriented dlineman. A top ten pick? NO.

Laroi Glover not a top ten pick? I'm pretty sure he was the heart of our front 7 back when we were statistically the number 1 defense in the league...

If I knew we were getting a player as productive as him, I'd go with that guy in a heartbeat.
 
nyc;3861860 said:
At #9 I would be. I just can't take a 3-4 DE at #9 unless you were getting someone like Suh, Seymour, or even Fairley. (Fairley on talent alone, I think he has bust potential due to being lazy)

A guy like Suh comes around every couple of decades or so. When you do find one he goes in the top 2.

How long do you think you will have to wait to see one at 9?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QT2-mRCgX0
 
I still don't want a DE at #9 unless it's Fairley. I might be willing to accept Cam Jordan, but #9 is too high for a 3-4 DE in such a deep class unless you're getting a truely elite prospect.
 
I'm trying my hardest to see the correlation between LaRoi Glover and JJ Watt.

......... it's not happening.

Let me try again.

..................................... nope, nothing.

And it's amazing how many of you claim a 3-4 DE isn't worth the #9 pick "because it's a waste" also wanted to "waste" our proven All Pro nosetackle by moving him out to defensive end.
 
The Realist;3863275 said:
A guy like Suh comes around every couple of decades or so. When you do find one he goes in the top 2.

How long do you think you will have to wait to see one at 9?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8QT2-mRCgX0

I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. I don't want a 3-4 DE in the top 10 unless he is like Suh. The fact that we are drafting at #9 doesn't matter. We could have the #10 pick in the draft and I wouldn't draft Watt with it. He isn't a top 10 pick. Suh and Fairley are. I'm on the fence about Dareus being a bonafide top 10 pick. The fact that he will play DE in a 3-4 is very damaging to how high he should be drafted IMO. He just isn't THAT dominate of a player.
 
InmanRoshi;3863446 said:
I'm trying my hardest to see the correlation between LaRoi Glover and JJ Watt.

......... it's not happening.

Let me try again.

..................................... nope, nothing.

And it's amazing how many of you claim a 3-4 DE isn't worth the #9 pick "because it's a waste" also wanted to "waste" our proven All Pro nosetackle by moving him out to defensive end.

A 3-4 DE is worth the #9 pick if his name is Suh. Not Watt.
 
nyc;3863459 said:
I don't understand the point you are trying to make here. I don't want a 3-4 DE in the top 10 unless he is like Suh. The fact that we are drafting at #9 doesn't matter. We could have the #10 pick in the draft and I wouldn't draft Watt with it. He isn't a top 10 pick. Suh and Fairley are. I'm on the fence about Dareus being a bonafide top 10 pick. The fact that he will play DE in a 3-4 is very damaging to how high he should be drafted IMO. He just isn't THAT dominate of a player.

Would you take Ngata at 9?
 
The Realist;3863470 said:
Would you take Ngata at 9?

Yes, and he would play NT and not DE. A NT has quite a bit more value to me than a 3-4 DE.
 
nyc;3863485 said:
Yes, and he would play NT and not DE. A NT has quite a bit more value to me than a 3-4 DE.

Would you pass on Richard Seymour at 9? Because that's who Watt is compared to.
 
TheFinisher;3863487 said:
Would you pass on Richard Seymour at 9? Because that's who Watt is compared to.

I would take Seymour at #9.

People can say Seymour and Watt are comparable, but while I see some similarities, Watt isn't Seymour. I like Watt and would without question draft him in the first round. Just not with the 9th overall pick. I would trade back and grab him around 15 if I could. If I draft a DE in the top 10, he has to be a superstar. I think Watt is going to be really good, but not a superstar ala Seymour, Suh, Sapp, etc.
 
nyc;3863485 said:
Yes, and he would play NT and not DE. A NT has quite a bit more value to me than a 3-4 DE.

Ngata plays mostly DE for the Ravens and Gregg starts at NT.

Mt. Cody will be the starter in the future at NT.

Since NT is more valuable would you take Dareus at 9.

He can play NT no problem and will be 330+ before you know it.
 
The Realist;3863520 said:
Ngata plays mostly DE for the Ravens and Gregg starts at NT.

Mt. Cody will be the starter in the future at NT.

Since NT is more valuable would you take Dareus at 9.

He can play NT no problem and will be 330+ before you know it.

Yeah, I noted Dareus and my thoughts on him being a top 10 pick in another thread. I'm actually on the fence about him.
 

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