With Miles starting, will Witten run deep?

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Ive been waiting all year to see Witten deep down the middle... Wits dinks and dunks are a painful reminder this team needs a WR who can draw coverage. Hopefully, this is the reason why Jerry made this move... can AMiles open up the Middle so Witten can return to his 08 form, bc starting Miles looks like nothing short of semantics after his record day.


We will soon find out if this is a strategic move and not a sentimental "Jerryland" induced reaction considering it would be nice to see another record broken!
 

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I've wanted to see Austin start over Crayton, but only if he earned it, and not because Crayton played poorly. Because I believe we know what Crayton is. And if he can stay being that, and Austin can excel past him, then we are better for it. I think Austin is going to pull some coverage away from the line, and allow Roy and Witten to be open. What I think this also does is means less chances for Bennett to succeed, unless we are in a 2-TE set with just two WRs. Because I think we are likely to see more 3 WR sets with Crayton in the slot.
 

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you can add wintten to whitten, Irving, starback, and the rest of the list..Wintenn actually sounds funny lol...kind of like winston but its not, if that makes any sense haha...just messin with ya Mont
 

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jswalker1981;3030379 said:
I've wanted to see Austin start over Crayton, but only if he earned it, and not because Crayton played poorly. Because I believe we know what Crayton is. And if he can stay being that, and Austin can excel past him, then we are better for it. I think Austin is going to pull some coverage away from the line, and allow Roy and Witten to be open. What I think this also does is means less chances for Bennett to succeed, unless we are in a 2-TE set with just two WRs. Because I think we are likely to see more 3 WR sets with Crayton in the slot.

...well S11 or 11 will only work for Romo if the protection holds, namely Flozell Adams...Dumervil and Hali wreaked havoc on the left side of the line in the last two games, short-circuiting the deep routes...this pressure played a role in Romo's fumble on 3rd and 14...DJ Williams blew through the line on a blitz and Romo did'nt have enough time for Austin to work the slant and go on Bailey in the fourth quarter against Denver...later Romo missed a wide open Witten, Crayton on a seam route and Roy Williams right after that...the most hideous series by Romo since the Pittsburgh game last year...the line did'nt help matters...

...i'm of similar opinion as Sturm with 1 RB/ 2 TE as the base...Romo got killed down the stretch [Giants game in particular] last year because of Garrett's love affair with the shotgun formation [S11]...i think Dallas was passing over 65% of the time at years end...1 RB and if Witten goes out on a route you have only six guys in to block...

...the real culprit is offensive penalties, particularly holding...The line can't keep putting Romo in 3rd's and forever and expect teams not to blitz them into oblivion...this reminds me of the problems Ben Roethlisberger had in Pittsburgh last year, getting stuck trying to convert long yardage 3rd downs on a regular basis...the deck is stacked against you percentage wise no matter how good your quarterback may be at improvising...sooner or later it catches up with you...it caught up to the boys down the stretch...you can get away with it against weaker teams but not against defenses like the Ravens and Steelers forget it...

...this team can put some fear into the league by doing just two things better than they have...cutting offensive penalites and executing in the redzone...add in a few turnovers on defense and they will make the playoffs...beyond that, who knows but the current melee of penalties, turnovers and lack of execution pigeonholes them as a mediocre team that can't get out of it's own way...it won't change until enough players get sick of the mistakes costing them close games...hopefully that occurs sooner than later because they are entering a stretch of games which will determine if post-season aspirations are tangible or simply a pipe-dream...
 

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MONT17;3030367 said:
Ive been waiting all year to see Witten deep down the middle... Wits dinks and dunks are a painful reminder this team needs a WR who can draw coverage. Hopefully, this is the reason why Jerry made this move... can AMiles open up the Middle so Witten can return to his 08 form, bc starting Miles looks like nothing short of semantics after his record day.


We will soon find out if this is a strategic move and not a sentimental "Jerryland" induced reaction considering it would be nice to see another record broken!

...one of the reasons for Witten's apparent lack of production is because of Garrett and the two tight end base formation...he also is'nt being used in the redzone the way he has in the past...this will have to change as anymore "Hurd" experiments like what happened against Denver and someone his likely to be run out of town on a rail [one can only hope]...playmakers make plays and should be put in positions as such, especially at the critical junctures in games...
 

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kramskoi;3030422 said:
...well S11 or 11 will only work for Romo if the protection holds, namely Flozell Adams...Dumervil and Hali wreaked havoc on the left side of the line in the last two games, short-circuiting the deep routes...this pressure played a role in Romo's fumble on 3rd and 14...DJ Williams blew through the line on a blitz and Romo did'nt have enough time for Austin to work the slant and go on Bailey in the fourth quarter against Denver...later Romo missed a wide open Witten, Crayton on a seam route and Roy Williams right after that...the most hideous series by Romo since the Pittsburgh game last year...the line did'nt help matters...

...i'm of similar opinion as Sturm with 1 RB/ 2 TE as the base...Romo got killed down the stretch [Giants game in particular] last year because of Garrett's love affair with the shotgun formation [S11]...i think Dallas was passing over 65% of the time at years end...1 RB and if Witten goes out on a route you have only six guys in to block...

...the real culprit is offensive penalties, particularly holding...The line can't keep putting Romo in 3rd's and forever and expect teams not to blitz them into oblivion...this reminds me of the problems Ben Roethlisberger had in Pittsburgh last year, getting stuck trying to convert long yardage 3rd downs on a regular basis...the deck is stacked against you percentage wise no matter how good your quarterback may be at improvising...sooner or later it catches up with you...it caught up to the boys down the stretch...you can get away with it against weaker teams but not against defenses like the Ravens and Steelers...

...this team can put some fear into the league by doing just two things better than they have...cutting offensive penalites and executing in the redzone...add in a few turnovers on defense and they will make the playoffs...beyond that, who knows but the current melee of penalties, turnovers and lack of execution pigeonholes them as a mediocre team that can't get out of it's own way...it won't change until enough players get sick of the mistakes costing them close games...hopefully that occurs sooner than later because they are entering a stretch of games which will determine if post-season aspirations are tangible or simply a pipe-dream...

I agree...

They need to cut out the negative rushing plays also,I believe in the Denver game Choice had two runs for -6 yards in the first half of that game alone.Lack of execution and pre-snap penalties are a bad recipe.

Craig
 

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craig71;3030485 said:
I agree...

They need to cut out the negative rushing plays also,I believe in the Denver game Choice had two runs for -6 yards in the first half of that game alone.Lack of execution and pre-snap penalties are a bad recipe.

Craig

For whatever reason, blocking scheme or otherwise, our ability to avoid being tackled behind the line has been disproportionately bad relative to our running game, which has tended to be a point of some strength. For the last 3 years, we've been very middle of the road - between #14 and right now #19 in the league in effectiveness in avoiding RB TFLs.

The last time we were in the top 10 in that stat?

2000.
 
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