With the 109th pick in the NFL draft the boys select Johnathon Mingo

[Aerolithe_Lion]

Our last 4th round picks included the likes of Viliami Fehoku and Josh Ball. Mingo sounds about right anyway.

And Dak Prescott and Jake Ferguson and Tyler Biadasz and Tony Pollard and Dalton Schultz

Dallas might be a top 3 team in the national football league at finding talent in the 4th round

 

[Davidlee1973]

Not that 4th round picks don't matter, we definitely have found guys in that round that have turned out to be steals. However, I have a hard time criticizing a team for throwing a dart with a day 3 pick to try to get more out of a player drafted much higher in the last couple of years. There are worse trades this team has made than Mingo and Lance.

The front office has definitely given us reasons to criticize them, but doing it over a day 3 pick that has a 10% chance of success anyway just seems like a small potatoes argument.

Stevie boy is that you. You are the problem. You are the fan who drinks the Jerry kool aid. It’s likely between 102 and 105 there will be a lot of players with second round grades still on the board.

 

[rambo2]

Does anyone need anymore proof that Jerry is the problem.

He actually did fine in his debut. He blocked well and would have had a td with a better qb.

 

[Kingofholland]

Stevie boy is that you. You are the problem. You are the fan who drinks the Jerry kool aid. It’s likely between 102 and 105 there will be a lot of players with second round grades still on the board.

Even if I was who you mentioned, it's a fact the hit rate on day 3 picks isn't great. Now if we turned around and traded away a day 1 or day 2 pick for a speculative player that's under performed different story. No reason to stress over day 3 picks David.

 

[Mr_437]

Bust

 

[TwentyOne]

He does, dude is like a politician and we are all morons. Then they get made when they are called out on their lies and deceptions.

This!

 

[irishline]

jerry is an idiot...they also selected Lance and decided not to pick up his 5th year option, and even give him any playing time outside of pre-season.

jerry is an idiot GM.

Everything you said was correct, except for the 5th round option. That would have been close to $30 million, so not picking it up was the right thing to do. That being said, the fact that we knew that ahead of time (or close to it) and still made the trade just goes to reinforce your premise that the trade itself was stupid and that Jerry is an idiot GM.

 

[TheBigEasy]

Can we wait until we see what Mingo can do with a QB not named Rush and a coach named Fat Mike? I think a lot of you will be pleasantly surprised with how good Mingo can/will be. Sorry for the 'optimistic' post. Carry on hating life.

 

[gtb1943]

Mingo wasn't an exciting acquisition to me, but clearly someone in the organization really liked him and thinks he has potential to contribute. I doubt Jones was the guy that evaluated Mingo or even knew who he was. I personally wouldn't have made the trade, but I'm not going to slaughter an organization over sending away a 4th round pick.

I guess you are ignoring all the other stupid moves then

 

[gtb1943]

Can we wait until we see what Mingo can do with a QB not named Rush and a coach named Fat Mike? I think a lot of you will be pleasantly surprised with how good Mingo can/will be. Sorry for the 'optimistic' post. Carry on hating life.

more like dreaming without drugs post

 

[KC10Sooner]

Ooof. Just checked the 2024 4th round for….clarity.

Tampa Bay picked Bucky Irving with the next pick after the one Dallas traded to SF for Lance.

‍♂️

 

[atlantacowboy]

Not that 4th round picks don't matter, we definitely have found guys in that round that have turned out to be steals. However, I have a hard time criticizing a team for throwing a dart with a day 3 pick to try to get more out of a player drafted much higher in the last couple of years. There are worse trades this team has made than Mingo and Lance.

The front office has definitely given us reasons to criticize them, but doing it over a day 3 pick that has a 10% chance of success anyway just seems like a small potatoes argument.

The problem is overpaying. The Chiefs get Deandre Hopkins for a 5th, but Mingo is worth a 4th? Not even close. Mingo should have cost us a 7th rounder tops.

 

[Kingofholland]

I guess you are ignoring all the other stupid moves then

What other moves? It was nearly a nonexistent acquistion year sans resigning their own and bringing in Kendricks.

 

[gimmesix]

* We got a 7th back.

And I will rub that in all your faces when we are on the clock.

So we gave up Ryan Switzer for Noah Brown? Seems like a good trade to me even if we hadn't also gotten Mingo in the deal.

 

[Kingofholland]

The problem is overpaying. The Chiefs get Deandre Hopkins for a 5th, but Mingo is worth a 4th? Not even close. Mingo should have cost us a 7th rounder tops.

Totally, when you compare an accomplished receiver like Hopkins vs Mingo solely there's no comparison and it looks like a rip off. However, you also have to consider cost, future contract control, age, etc. Mingo was a 2nd round pick just last year and is 23. Most teams don't trade a 2nd round pick away after 1 year. I would say his value was probably higher than a 7th round pick just based on the fact this is year 2 and he caught 40 balls last year as a 2nd rounder.

Personally, I wasn't a fan of the trade I don't know if I see him developing into the receiver the team thinks he can be and thought it was a strange trade. Then again I'm not a scout, I hope I'm proven wrong by people that live and breath this everyday.

 

[gimmesix]

The problem is overpaying. The Chiefs get Deandre Hopkins for a 5th, but Mingo is worth a 4th? Not even close. Mingo should have cost us a 7th rounder tops.

Multiple factors involved.

First, the fifth-rounder is conditional, so it could also be a fourth ... and we're getting a seventh back, so we may actually end up paying less than the Chiefs did.

Second, Hopkins is 32 and his deal expires at the end of the season. Mingo is 23 and under contract through 2026.

Third, Hopkins is costing KC $8 million this year. Mingo is making just $556,000 total this year, $1.5 million next year and $1.9 million in 2026.

I'm not saying that I like the trade, but those are the reasons Dallas paid more.

 

[quickccc]

i just keep pondering if Jerry forced McClay to make some kinda deadline trade ... just for the sake of making some kinda trade.

but still why trade a 4th rd pick ? ...and not a late round " conditional " pick. ..? ...

 

[CowboysFaninHouston]

Everything you said was correct, except for the 5th round option. That would have been close to $30 million, so not picking it up was the right thing to do. That being said, the fact that we knew that ahead of time (or close to it) and still made the trade just goes to reinforce your premise that the trade itself was stupid and that Jerry is an idiot GM.

I agree that it would have been stupid to pick up the 5th, but they paid a 4th which was stupid and the worse part, it was they had no plan what to do. just get the guy....to evaluate!? a few phone calls would have done the same thing instead of getting the guy to evaluate in camp. I am not sure if MM was on board with this, because its looking more and more like a jerry move, like he did with TO and Williams trades where the staff was against it.

and yes, jerry is an idiot GM

 

[Davidlee1973]

Can we wait until we see what Mingo can do with a QB not named Rush and a coach named Fat Mike? I think a lot of you will be pleasantly surprised with how good Mingo can/will be. Sorry for the 'optimistic' post. Carry on hating life.

He won’t even be on the roster in 2025

 

[big dog cowboy]

He actually did fine in his debut. He blocked well and would have had a td with a better qb.

I guess everyone is forgetting that Cooks is likely gone after this season.