Witten Foot Bounce INT

[links18]

So if the play was blown dead negating the advance after the INT, why does the INT count? if it was blown dead after the ball appeared to hit the ground (in reality Witten's foot) why does that negate the return but not the interception, since the interception--like the return--occurred after the incorrect decision to blow the play dead?

 

[Hostile]

That rule was changed. They cannot advance the ball, but they do get possession.

 

[Doomsday101]

So if the play was blown dead negating the advance after the INT, why does the INT count? if it was blown dead after the ball appeared to hit the ground (in reality Witten's foot) why does that negate the return but not the interception, since the interception--like the return--occurred after the incorrect decision to blow the play dead?

The ball went directly into the hands of the defender because the whistle it stopped the advancement of the ball it did not change the fact the ball was turned over. It was the right call by the officals

 

[cowboyjoe]

That rule was changed. They cannot advance the ball, but they do get possession.

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?

oh yeah loved hearing you on dc fanatics show last night hostile

boy, wade sure can fire us up sometimes cant he?

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?

oh yeah loved hearing you on dc fanatics show last night hostile

boy, wade sure can fire us up sometimes cant he?

The incomplete call was an error. Obviously, the ball was intercepted as opposed to incomplete. This mistake can be overturned by a ruling on instant replay. It makes sense to correct a bad call. However, the TD was the result of play stoppage due to the whistle. Had the whistle not blown, it's likely that the interception would not have been returned for a TD. If you allow the TD, then you compound the error so to speak. NY should have gotten the ball but the Cowboys should not have been further penalized by allowing a TD once the whistle blew. All play stops once the whistle blows so it's fair that the ball should have come back.

 

[links18]

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?


Yeah, I think that was what I was trying to get at. Is this the rule they changed after the San Diego game last year? So what actions after a blown whistle count and which ones don't?

 

[Hostile]

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?

Again, the rule was changed. The more important thing they look for is possession of the football. It was the Giants ball. However, because the play was blown dead they did not give the Giants the TD on the INT.

I hate, and I do mean hate, Instant Replay. But I will say without a doubt the refs got the call right.

 

[cowboyjoe]

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?


Yeah, I think that was what I was trying to get at. Is this the rule they changed after the San Diego game last year? So what actions after a blown whistle count and which ones don't?

thats what has me confused,maybe hostile or someone can enlighten us

 

[AdamJT13]

ok but i heard that the whistle blew when the football hit witten's foot. If the whistle did blow, why did the giants get the football?

It doesn't matter anymore if the whistle blows. The ball can change possession after the whistle blows, thanks to the new rules.

 

[ABQCOWBOY]

It doesn't matter anymore if the whistle blows. The ball can change possession after the whistle blows, thanks to the new rules.

It's always kinda been this way if you think about it. If you've ever been on the bottom of a pile of a loose ball, you know that the ball can change possession many times. The whistle blows but the scrum fights on.

 

[cowboyjoe]

It doesn't matter anymore if the whistle blows. The ball can change possession after the whistle blows, thanks to the new rules.

oh ok got you now thanks adam;

 

[TellerMorrow34]

Yep. The whistle only changes rather or not the ball is advanced.

Did they change that rule for this year or was it in place last year? Because if it was in place last year they screwed up in the Philly monday night game cause Adam Jones did pick up the ball, but he didn't attempt to return it anywhere cause of the whistle, after Jackson threw it down at the 1 but they still gave Philly the ball at the 1. I guess that's new for this year then?

 

[Hostile]

The only thing the whistle actually does now is stop forward progress.

 

[links18]

. All play stops once the whistle blows so it's fair that the ball should have come back.

Well, all play didn't stop after the whistle since the interception counted.

 

[Hostile]

Well, all play didn't stop after the whistle since the interception counted.

That has already been explained.

 

[AdamJT13]

It's always kinda been this way if you think about it. If you've ever been on the bottom of a pile of a loose ball, you know that the ball can change possession many times. The whistle blows but the scrum fights on.

Well, that was only because the officials had to determine who had the ball. They wouldn't blow the whistle if they knew it was a loose ball.

In the past, if the whistle blew while the ball was loose on the ground, whichever team had possession of it last retained possession. Now, even if the whistle blows while the ball is loose, it can change possession after the whistle.

 

[links18]

That has already been explained.

Yes, missed that. Sorry.

 

[AbeBeta]

So if the play was blown dead negating the advance after the INT, why does the INT count? if it was blown dead after the ball appeared to hit the ground (in reality Witten's foot) why does that negate the return but not the interception, since the interception--like the return--occurred after the incorrect decision to blow the play dead?

Because it is the right thing to do?

 

[links18]

So is the lesson to the players now that you have to keep playing after the whistle in case something like this happens? For example, should Witten had turned around and try to cause Phillips to drop or fumble the ball. Doesn't that risk unsportsmanlike calls? Is there a conflict here? When exactly does the action cease?