Wonderlic test results only a piece of the intelligence puzzle

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Wonderlic test results only a piece of the intelligence puzzle
http://www.profootballweekly.com/PFW/NFLDraft/Draft+Extras/2009/wwhi042109.htm

By Nolan Nawrocki
April 21, 2009


E-mail your draft questions to Nolan Nawrocki at ASKquestions@pfwmedia.com. He'll be answering selected questions in an online posting on Wednesday, April 22. Nawrocki also will host a draft-related live chat at 1 p.m. EDT Wednesday.


Georgia QB Matthew Stafford,
Louisville C Eric Wood (right)

The Wonderlic test is a 12-minute, 50-question test commonly given to NFL prospects as a measure of intelligence, designed to test learning and problem-solving skills. Questions increase in difficulty, so few prospects finish all 50 questions, and players are instructed before the test to answer the questions sequentially. The score is the number of questions answered correctly, followed by the total number of questions answered.
In recent years, the test has lost its significance to NFL clubs as many players are now prepared for the test from extensive Combine preparation, during which they often see exact copies of the tests to be given.

“We look at it, but we pay little attention to it,” one NFL GM said. “All of these kids are so well-prepared nowadays — the test that carries the most relevance to us is their first test.”

Yet, when comparing the score of the first test that prospects took, usually in the spring entering their senior season or at all-star games, against the score of the test administered at the Combine, far fewer show signs of preparing for the test than in past years. Test results are not expected to vary by more than several points any time two tests are taken; otherwise, outside influences are expected to have influenced the results.

“We look at three gauges of intelligence,” one team executive said. “One, (a player’s) score; two, whether his coaches say he needs reps (to learn); and three, whether intelligence issues show up on tape — how often does (a player) need to be lined up, how often does he appear confused. If he is football-smart or his coaches say he learns well, the Wonderlic score is disregarded. You don’t have to be a rocket scientist to play football.”

True to form, many great players through the years have had better football intelligence than book smarts, as Hall of Fame QB Dan Marino reportedly scored a 16 on the Wonderlic, Terry Bradshaw 15 and potential Hall of Famer Donovan McNabb 14.

Following is a breakdown of scores by position as they were taken the first time, then at the Combine, and the difference between the two scores, to show whether preparation or other outside influences may have affected the results. A score of 22/35 means the player answered 35 questions, giving correct answers to 22.

Editor's note: Most underclassmen, who are not allowed to participate in all-star games or to be tested in the spring except before their senior seasons, only took the test once, at the Combine. Thus, “DNT” stands for "did not test."



QUARTERBACKS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Jason Boltus Hartwick (N.Y.) 22/35 26/40 4
Rhett Bomar Sam Houston State 27/47 25/38 -2
Tom Brandstater Fresno State 28/37 29/42 1
Nathan Brown Central Arkansas 21/32 24/33 3
Hunter Cantwell Louisville 29/47 30/49 1
Rudy Carpenter Arizona State 18/35 16/21 -2
Chase Daniel Missouri 25/47 27/46 2
Nate Davis Ball State DNT 11/45 —
Josh Freeman Kansas State DNT 27/37 —
Cullen Harper Clemson 20/26 23/50 3
Graham Harrell Texas Tech 24/25 23/30 -1
Chase Holbrook New Mexico State 26/35 25/34 -1
Brian Hoyer Michigan State 26/35 24/31 -2
Stephen McGee Texas A&M 25/35 35/44 10
Curtis Painter Purdue 19/41 24/37 5
Mike Reilly Central Washington 31/43 38/50 7
Mark Sanchez USC DNT 28/43 —
Matthew Stafford Georgia DNT 35/45 —
Pat White West Virginia 23/30 26/39 3
Drew Willy Buffalo 18/26 24/35 6
John Parker Wilson Alabama 28/35 30/50 2
Average 24/36 26/40 2

RUNNING BACKS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Kahlil Bell UCLA 12/34 18/31 6
Andre Brown North Carolina State 11/22 17/27 6
Donald Brown Connecticut DNT 24/34 —
Glen Coffee Alabama DNT 27/33 —
James Davis Clemson 11/33 14/41 3
Arian Foster Tennessee 20/23 19/25 -1
Mike Goodson Texas A&M DNT 23/35 —
Shonn Greene Iowa DNT 18/29 —
P.J. Hill Wisconsin DNT 15/24 —
Rashad Jennings Liberty 11/18 19/50 8
Ian Johnson Boise State 21/40 26/37 5
Gartrell Johnson Colorado State 7/25 12/19 5
Jeremiah Johnson Oregon 14/33 9/33 -5
Anthony Kimble Stanford 23/39 26/33 3
Marlon Lucky Nebraska 10/16 13/29 3
LeSean McCoy Pittsburgh DNT 11/23 —
Knowshon Moreno Georgia DNT 13/24 —
Chris Ogbonnaya Texas 26/43 26/34 0
Branden Ore West Liberty State 22/30 23/32 1
Cedric Peerman Virginia 17/21 19/27 2
Javon Ringer Michigan State DNT 17/23 —
Bernard Scott Abilene Christian 9/47 11/30 2
Kory Sheets Purdue DNT 19/23 —
Tyrell Sutton Northwestern 21/30 25/33 4
Chris Wells Ohio State DNT 22/36 —
Javarris Williams Tennessee State 20/34 26/34 6
Average 16/31 19/31 3

FULLBACKS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Jason Cook Mississippi DNT 24/37 —
Tony Fiammetta Syracuse 26/33 22/25 -4
Quinn Johnson LSU 16/37 11/41 -5
Marcus Mailei Weber State 18/25 18/44 0
Brannan Southerland Georgia 26/37 23/29 -3
Average 22/33 20/35 -3

H-BACKS
Marquez Branson Central Arkansas 14/38 21/24 7
Shawn Nelson Southern Mississippi 24/37 19/25 -5
Eddie Williams Idaho 28/35 23/40 -5
Average 22/37 21/30 -1

TIGHT ENDS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Travis Beckum Wisconsin 16/49 16/34 0
Jared Bronson Central Washington 26/42 28/41 2
James Casey Rice DNT 35/48 —
Chase Coffman Missouri 23/30 29/40 6
Jared Cook South Carolina DNT 25/38 —
Davon Drew East Carolina 19/23 18/23 -1
Dan Gronkowski Maryland 24/40 29/50 5
Anthony Hill North Carolina State 19/24 19/23 0
Cornelius Ingram Florida 14/22 13/26 -1
David Johnson Arkansas State 19/27 16/21 -3
Brian Mandeville Northeastern 17/23 23/35 6
Cameron Morrah California DNT 21/26 —
Rob Myers Utah State 23/40 28/45 5
Bear Pascoe Fresno State 14/21 14/18 0
Brandon Pettigrew Oklahoma State 20/25 17/34 -3
John Phillips Virginia 16/21 18/22 2
Richard Quinn North Carolina DNT 15/30 —
Kory Sperry Colorado State 18/38 24/41 6
Average 19/30 22/33 2

WIDE RECEIVERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Ramses Barden Cal Poly 28/31 26/31 -2
Kenny Britt Rutgers DNT 21/49 —
Deon Butler Penn State 20/26 19/24 -1
Demetrius Byrd LSU 9/23 10/34 1
Jeremy Childs Boise State DNT 20/38 —
Austin Collie Brigham Young DNT 21/27 —
Quan Cosby Texas 20/29 22/31 2
Michael Crabtree Texas Tech DNT 15/22 —
Jarett Dillard Rice 24/30 21/28 -3
Dominique Edison Stephen F. Austin 16/47 19/28 3
Brooks Foster North Carolina 22/28 22/29 0
Brandon Gibson Washington State 13/30 15/27 2
Brian Hartline Ohio State DNT 23/32 0
Percy Harvin Florida DNT 12/42 —
Darrius Heyward-Bey Maryland DNT 14/30 —
Juaquin Iglesias Oklahoma 25/43 27/37 2
Manuel Johnson Oklahoma 16/26 21/35 5
Taurus Johnson South Florida 13/43 12/50 -1
Aaron Kelly Clemson 18/29 21/33 3
Johnny Knox Abilene Christian 12/27 11/45 -1
Quinten Lawrence McNeese State 14/17 20/25 6
Jeremy Maclin Missouri DNT 25/39 0
Brennan Marion Tulsa DNT 21/38 —
Mohamed Massaquoi Georgia 30/36 26/41 -4
Kenny McKinley South Carolina 17/20 19/25 2
Andrew Means Indiana DNT 24/50 0
Marko Mitchell Nevada 6/16 9/27 3
Louis Murphy Florida 22/44 18/40 -4
Hakeem Nicks North Carolina DNT 11/31 —
Jordan Norwood Penn State 30/42 22/28 -8
Kevin Ogletree Virginia DNT 24/41 0
Greg Orton Purdue 18/20 21/42 3
Darius Passmore Marshall 17/22 18/26 1
David Richmond San Jose State 8/47 10/43 2
Brian Robiskie Ohio State 26/38 28/37 2
Sammie Stroughter Oregon State 19/40 17/39 -2
Nate Swift Nebraska 25/38 29/50 4
Brandon Tate North Carolina DNT 20/31 —
Mike Thomas Arizona 17/29 20/29 3
Patrick Turner USC 19/48 22/41 3
Tiquan Underwood Rutgers DNT 38/49 0
Mike Wallace Mississippi DNT 19/31 —
Derrick Williams Penn State DNT 19/34 —
Jaison Williams Oregon 18/20 20/26 2
Average 18/31 20/35 1

CENTERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Rob Bruggeman Iowa 32/42 29/41 -3
Antoine Caldwell Alabama 17/28 24/41 7
Jon Cooper Oklahoma 34/38 27/39 -7
Robby Felix UTEP 23/40 21/28 -2
Alex Fletcher Stanford 35/48 20/30 -15
Juan Garcia Washington 13/24 19/24 6
Brett Helms LSU 26/28 23/29 -3
Jonathan Luigs Arkansas 32/37 26/36 -6
Alex Mack California 24/48 26/50 2
A.Q. Shipley Penn State DNT 40/46 —
Max Unger Oregon 21/27 20/27 -1
Edwin Williams Maryland 20/36 24/30 4
Eric Wood Louisville 29/48 31/45 2
Average 26/37 25/36 -1

OFFENSIVE GUARDS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Roger Allen Missouri Western State 15/27 23/50 8
Travis Bright Brigham Young 27/34 27/34 0
Trevor Canfield Cincinnati 16/25 14/47 -2
C.J. Davis Pittsburgh 13/17 19/26 6
Paul Fanaika Arizona State 21/28 28/37 7
Ray Feinga Brigham Young 12/35 19/39 7
Tyronne Green Auburn 15/40 22/39 7
Greg Isdaner West Virginia DNT 38/50 —
Herman Johnson LSU 13/28 21/27 8
Andy Kemp Wisconsin 21/40 22/37 1
Andy Levitre Oregon State 36/49 27/45 -9
Maurice Miller Mississippi 18/30 19/31 1
Anthony Parker Tennessee DNT 23/35 —
Duke Robinson Oklahoma DNT 16/34 —
Matt Slauson Nebraska 23/25 23/29 0
Jaimie Thomas Maryland 26/36 25/35 -1
Kraig Urbik Wisconsin 28/41 31/41 3
Louis Vasquez Texas Tech 16/31 18/45 2
Brandon Walker Oklahoma DNT 14/30 —
Average 20/32 23/37 3

OFFENSIVE TACKLES
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Will Beatty Connecticut 19/28 22/30 3
Joel Bell Furman 29/40 23/37 -6
Alex Boone Ohio State 23/35 24/32 1
Robert Brewster Ball State 17/31 11/39 -6
Eben Britton Arizona DNT 31/49 —
Gerald Cadogan Penn State 24/43 26/50 2
Ramon Foster Tennessee 18/24 20/25 2
Xavier Fulton Illinois 22/29 22/28 0
Andrew Gardner Georgia Tech 32/38 29/35 -3
Dan Gay Baylor 32/38 25/33 -7
Troy Kropog Tulane 27/30 22/27 -5
Cornelius Lewis Tennessee State 22/26 21/30 -1
Kyle Link McNeese State 24/38 23/35 -1
Phil Loadholt Oklahoma 23/40 22/34 -1
Ryan McKee Southern Mississippi 15/25 24/31 9
Jamon Meredith South Carolina 23/27 23/37 0
Eugene Monroe Virginia 26/31 24/42 -2
Lydon Murtha Nebraska 23/41 25/33 2
Michael Oher Mississippi DNT 19/46 —
Seth Olsen Iowa 24/34 25/45 1
Gus Parrish Kent State 7/21 13/33 6
Garrett Reynolds North Carolina 22/36 22/33 0
Andre Smith Alabama DNT 17/50 —
Jason Smith Baylor DNT 22/50 —
Fenuki Tupou Oregon 21/43 24/35 3
Jose Valdez Arkansas 14/31 16/28 2
Jason Watkins Florida 20/26 24/37 -4
Average 22/33 22/36 0

DEFENSIVE ENDS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Robert Ayers Tennessee DNT 25/35 —
Connor Barwin Cincinnati 21/36 23/33 2
Michael Bennett Texas A&M 20/30 24/34 4
Everette Brown Florida State DNT 21/49 —
Cody Brown Connecticut 14/34 21/40 7
Victor Butler Oregon State 20/33 20/36 0
Ian Campbell Kansas State 26/35 32/47 6
Will Davis Illinois 15/26 23/30 8
Rulon Davis California 15/28 17/27 2
Pannel Egboh Stanford 20/34 24/31 4
Larry English Northern Illinois 22/28 34/45 12
Maurice Evans Penn State DNT 21/31 —
Sammie Hill Stillman (Ala.) 10/18 15/19 5
Tyson Jackson LSU 16/24 17/37 1
Tim Jamison Michigan 16/43 20/40 4
Michael Johnson Georgia Tech 27/30 22/27 -5
Paul Kruger Utah DNT 25/37 —
Alex Magee Purdue DNT 15/45 —
Orion Martin Virginia Tech 23/47 19/26 -4
Aaron Maybin Penn State DNT 25/39 —
Kyle Moore USC 19/34 20/27 1
Brian Orakpo Texas DNT 25/36 —
Zach Potter Nebraska 19/49 32/43 13
Matt Shaughnessy Wisconsin 18/47 23/35 5
Lawrence Sidbury Richmond 22/27 22/27 0
Stryker Sulak Missouri 16/26 22/38 6
David Veikune Hawaii 20/33 28/46 8
Derek Walker Illinois 12/41 20/33 8
Brandon Williams Texas Tech DNT 19/32 —
Jarius Wynn Georgia DNT 12/22 —
Average 19/33 22/35 4

DEFENSIVE TACKLES
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Chris Baker Hampton DNT 11/21 —
Demonte Bolden Tennessee 5/27 18/33 13
Ron Brace Boston College 24/30 21/28 -3
Marlon Favorite LSU 11/50 15/50 4
Jarron Gilbert San Jose State 29/39 29/37 0
Adrian Grady Louisville 14/47 19/31 5
Sonny Harris Oregon 12/24 14/31 2
Ziggy Hood Missouri 18/34 21/32 3
Corvey Irvin Georgia 15/34 13/29 -2
Ricky Jean-Francois LSU DNT 12/38 —
Peria Jerry Mississippi 10/23 10/20 0
Mitch King Iowa 19/28 24/33 5
Terrance Knighton Temple 24/37 24/34 0
Sen'Derrick Marks Auburn DNT 12/50 —
Roy Miller Texas 17/21 23/33 6
Khalif Mitchell East Carolina 15/25 19/27 4
Fili Moala USC 24/34 20/27 -4
Myron Pryor Kentucky 12/34 14/31 2
B.J. Raji Boston College 21/28 19/49 -2
Darryl Richard Georgia Tech 37/47 33/46 -4
Dorell Scott Clemson 19/34 22/31 3
Terrance Taylor Michigan 18/23 15/25 -3
Vance Walker Georgia Tech 25/39 20/27 -5
Average 18/33 19/33 1

INSIDE LINEBACKERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Stanley Arnoux Wake Forest 21/28 27/40 6
Darry Beckwith LSU 17/28 15/25 -2
Jasper Brinkley South Carolina 17/23 13/20 -4
Dannell Ellerbe Georgia 22/33 22/50 0
Anthony Felder California 25/38 29/40 4
James Laurinaitis Ohio State DNT 24/35 —
Rey Maualuga USC DNT 15/33 —
Josh Mauga Nevada 14/33 15/45 1
Scott McKillop Pittsburgh 21/43 27/39 6
Gerald McRath Southern Mississippi DNT 32/50 —
Jason Phillips TCU 24/37 26/34 2
Worrell Williams California 14/16 16/23 2
Morris Wooten Arizona State DNT 14/28 —
Average 19/31 21/36 2

OUTSIDE LINEBACKERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Jonathan Casillas Wisconsin 21/28 26/33 5
Aaron Curry Wake Forest 24/35 26/43 2
Brian Cushing USC 23/40 26/49 3
Moise Fokou Maryland 15/21 22/41 7
Zack Follett California 15/31 22/31 7
Marcus Freeman Ohio State 21/38 23/32 2
Cody Glenn Nebraska 13/49 21/50 8
Mortty Ivy West Virginia 17/31 17/32 0
DeAndre Levy Wisconsin 21/30 31/40 10
Kaluka Maiava USC 22/43 24/48 2
Clay Matthews USC 27/30 26/43 -1
Tyrone McKenzie South Florida 21/43 16/45 -5
Lee Robinson Alcorn State 9/25 18/34 9
Clint Sintim Virginia 17/25 17/34 0
Average 19/34 23/40 4

STRONG SAFETIES
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Patrick Chung Oregon 20/37 23/42 3
Emanuel Cook South Carolina DNT 11/49 —
Kevin Ellison USC DNT 31/50 —
Courtney Greene Rutgers 15/23 26/48 11
Nic Harris Oklahoma 26/50 23/35 -3
Stephen Hodge TCU 13/25 15/45 2
Troy Nolan Arizona State 13/24 11/25 -2
Jamarca Sanford Mississippi 28/45 11/37 -17
Average 19/34 19/41 -1

FREE SAFETIES
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
David Bruton Notre Dame 25/28 28/38 3
Chris Clemons Clemson 16/33 14/50 -2
Louis Delmas Western Michigan 11/18 12/24 1
Michael Hamlin Clemson 20/27 20/33 0
Lendy Holmes Oklahoma 17/31 15/34 -2
Rashad Johnson Alabama 24/34 22/27 -2
Sherrod Martin Troy 11/22 21/34 10
Darcel McBath Texas Tech 27/35 26/35 -1
Marcus McClinton Kentucky 19/33 20/41 1
William Moore Missouri 19/30 17/32 -2
Derek Pegues Mississippi State 22/40 16/36 -6
C.J. Spillman Marshall 20/29 13/49 -7
Curtis Taylor LSU 9/36 18/46 9
Brandon Underwood Cincinnati 16/21 28/42 12
Chip Vaughn Wake Forest 22/33 21/41 -1
Otis Wiley Michigan State DNT 20/29 —
Average 19/30 19/37 1

CORNERBACKS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Kevin Akins Boston College 23/27 21/34 -2
Asher Allen Georgia DNT 25/31 —
Kevin Barnes Maryland 22/33 41/50 19
Joe Burnett Central Florida 9/19 12/23 3
Darius Butler Connecticut 20/26 24/35 4
Jarius Byrd Oregon DNT 15/43 —
Don Carey Norfolk State 23/24 21/25 -2
Vontae Davis Illinois DNT 33/49 —
Bradley Fletcher Iowa 10/44 13/16 3
Coye Francies San Jose State 15/21 17/22 2
Cary Harris USC DNT 17/45 —
Macho Harris Virginia Tech 15/25 12/26 -3
Brandon Hughes Oregon State 16/33 25/45 9
Malcolm Jenkins Ohio State DNT 23/35 —
Bruce Johnson Miami (Fla.) DNT 16/28 —
Dominique Johnson Jackson State 25/29 25/34 0
Keenan Lewis Oregon State 10/38 14/50 4
Mike Mickens Cincinnati 24/43 20/27 -4
D.J. Moore Vanderbilt DNT 21/36 —
Ryan Mouton Hawaii 18/25 20/27 2
Captain Munnerlyn South Carolina DNT 14/40 —
Wopamo Osaisai Stanford DNT 25/34 —
Chris Owens San Jose State 14/26 15/19 1
Ryan Palmer Texas 9/25 15/29 6
Jerraud Powers Auburn DNT 20/29 —
Glover Quin New Mexico 26/32 22/29 -4
Lydell Sargeant Penn State 13/28 26/46 13
Alphonso Smith Wake Forest 17/36 22/32 5
DeAngelo Smith Cincinnati 7/28 12/26 -5
Sean Smith Utah DNT 25/32 —
Morgan Trent Michigan DNT 24/33 —
Donald Washington Ohio State DNT 17/20 —
Lardarius Webb Nicholls State (La.) 14/24 23/32 9
Jahi Word-Daniels Georgia Tech 20/27 23/32 3
DeAndre Wright New Mexico 13/26 17/23 4
Average 17/29 20/32 3

PLACEKICKERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
David Buehler USC 22/25 22/27 0
Matt Fodge Oklahoma State 27/32 25/36 —
Jose Martinez UTEP 17/47 17/32 0
Tim Masthay Kentucky 24/30 31/41 5
Louie Sakoda Utah 23/28 31/42 8
Sam Swank Wake Forest 22/28 22/27 0
Average 23/32 25/34 3

PUNTERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Justin Brantly Texas A&M 14/28 18/46 4
Britton Colquitt Tennessee DNT 22/37 —
Graham Gano Florida State 15/18 24/33 9
Kevin Huber Cincinnati 23/30 27/35 4
Thomas Morstead SMU 37/41 26/33 -11
Average 22/29 23/37 2

LONG SNAPPERS
Name School 1st test Combine Difference
Sean Griffin Michigan 19/40 26/44 7
Jake Ingram Hawaii 19/30 20/30 1
Average 19/35 23/37 4
 

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Then we have some low wonderlics in the middle of the D, they always seem confused not knowing where they are supposed to line up.
 

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BAT;2742674 said:
Then we have some low wonderlics in the middle of the D, they always seem confused not knowing where they are supposed to line up.

could be bat,

remember at the start of the year last year, wade installed a more sophistated defense or whatever, the players siad they couldnt understand it,

so could be
 

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JerryAdvocate;2742698 said:
Patrick Chung seems like a really bright dude,

strong, fast, athletic, smart

He is. But I have not heard that the Cowboys were high on him, have you? I know the Pats are.
 

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wow....

Cowboyzone favs Hakeem Nicks and Johnny Knox are idiots.
:lmao:
 

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BAT;2742728 said:
He is. But I have not heard that the Cowboys were high on him, have you? I know the Pats are.

idk about high, but Goose mentioned him at 51 a few days or so back, and someone posted on here that we showed interest
 

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JerryAdvocate;2742779 said:
idk about high, but Goose mentioned him at 51 a few days or so back, and someone posted on here that we showed interest

yep, i remember we showed some interest in him;
 

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Speaking of Pat Chung, here are the safeties in the 300 club in this draft:

300-club
Patrick Chung of Oregon set a school record with tackles in 51 consecutive games. He started all 51 games he played in college and leaves as the fourth all-time leading tackler in Oregon history – and tops among nonlinebackers – with 384. Other safeties in the 300-tackle club in this draft, plus their career interception totals:


Safety School Tackles Int.
Patrick Chung Oregon 384 9
Courtney Greene Rutgers 386 2
Mike Hamlin Clemson 326 14
Chris Clemons Clemson 323 5
C.J. Spillman Marshall 319 3
Colt Anderson Montana 313 8
Louis Delmas West Michigan 310 12

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