Woods' Mock 3.0 as of March 29th

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I'm not including any trades in this Mock Draft. Also, I'm assuming we do nothing more in FA until after the Draft.

Round 2
Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma, 6-5, 329 lbs.

I've been debating between Duke and M Freeman and Kruger, and I'm going with Robinson for now. I have to say that at the OG position we may have the best depth in the NFL (between Bigg, Robinson, Kosier, and Holland).

Round 3
Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson, 6-3, 312 lbs.

I do think that Wade is serious when he says he likes Siavii. That said, Spears and Bowen can test FA next year, and I think that Scott can also play some DE in Wade's 34 as he has that type of versatility. I think we may end up keeping 7 DL this year. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.

Round 4a
Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois, 6-1, 241 lbs

Very productive and a fantastic athlete as well. He gets to learn behind Brooking and Brady James. In 2009 he competes for playing time versus Carpenter in the nickel.

Round 4b
Michael Hamlin, SS, Clemson, 6-2, 214 lbs.

Hamlin has the hands for the interception playing the SS position, which is what the Cowboys are looking for. In addition, he's a very good tackler, and we need that at the Safety position. Hamlin has the frame to add another 5-10 lbs if necessary. Hamlin backs up Sensabaugh in 2009, though Hamlin has the ability to push for a starting position in 2010. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.

Round 5a
TJ Lang, OG, Eastern Michigan, 6-4, 316 lbs.

Lang can play multiple positions on the OL, but he projects the best inside. I think he can play Center as well. Also, Lang has the frame to add another 10-15 lbs. He's a Hudson Houck mauler type, like Robinson. Suddenly, our OL is starting to shape up. Lang is moving up the draft boards, hopefully we can still get him here.

Round 5b
Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian, 6-0, 185 lbs.
Knox is super fast, and with R Williams, Austin, Crayton, and Hurd, I don't think Knox needs to be rushed to produce. However, Garrett should be able to develop a few packages for Knox to utilize his speed from Day 1. Knox can also perform KR and PR duties, and we clearly need that added element. Knox has very good hands as well, and this is a player we should be able to develop over the next couple of years as he needs to get bigger and stronger.

Round 5c
Joe Burnett, CB, UCF, 5-10, 192 lbs.

Burnett is not super fast, but he is instinctive and productive. After parting ways with PacMan Jones and Henry, we need another CB. Burnett would start out as our 5th CB, but he has the skills to develop into much more than that.

Round 6a
Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M, 6-3, 225 lbs.

I think McGee is an excellent development QB. He has the raw tools, but he needs a lot more game time experience. McGee could go a round higher, but it's difficult to predict as he has limited experience.

Round 6b
C Clemons, FS, Clemson, 6-0, 208 lbs.

Clemons can definitely play centerfield on defense, and he also can run a sub 4.4 40. He is a playmaker who we can develop behind Ken Hamlin. Well, that's 3 Clemson players in my mock draft along with D. Scott and Michael Hamlin (purely unintentional)!

Round 7a
Philip Hunt, DE, Houston, 6-1, 261 lbs.

Hunt moves to OLB in Wade's 34. Again, a super productive college player with good physical abilities. Though Hunt is a bit short, he has good size in his lower and upper body. Hunt runs a 4.6 40 as well.

Round 7b
L Murtha, OT, Nebraska, 6-7, 306 lbs.

I'm going heavy on the OL this draft. Murtha has the physical attributes, but he needs to stay healthy.

Alternates to Murtha (as he is moving up the draft boards):
Alt 1. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia, 6-4, 243 lbs. He fits in right away.
Alt 2. Ra'Shon Harris, Oregon, DT, 6-4, 300 lbs. (projects to DE) We stash him on the PS for a year. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.
 

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cowboyjoe;2707688 said:
now i like this draft, i could live with that draft

Thanks.

Though with guys like Lang and Murtha, it's so hard to predict how high they can go. But I'm trying to be as realistic as possible.
 

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Woods;2707682 said:
I'm not including any trades in this Mock Draft. Also, I'm assuming we do nothing more in FA until after the Draft.

Round 2
Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma, 6-5, 329 lbs.

I've been debating between Duke and M Freeman and Kruger, and I'm going with Robinson for now. I have to say that at the OG position we may have the best depth in the NFL (between Bigg, Robinson, Kosier, and Holland).

Round 3
Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson, 6-3, 312 lbs.

I do think that Wade is serious when he says he likes Siavii. That said, Spears and Bowen can test FA next year, and I think that Scott can also play some DE in Wade's 34 as he has that type of versatility. I think we may end up keeping 7 DL this year. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.

Round 4a
Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois, 6-1, 241 lbs

Very productive and a fantastic athlete as well. He gets to learn behind Brooking and Brady James. In 2009 he competes for playing time versus Carpenter in the nickel.

Round 4b
Michael Hamlin, SS, Clemson, 6-2, 214 lbs.

Hamlin has the hands for the interception playing the SS position, which is what the Cowboys are looking for. In addition, he's a very good tackler, and we need that at the Safety position. Hamlin has the frame to add another 5-10 lbs if necessary. Hamlin backs up Sensabaugh in 2009, though Hamlin has the ability to push for a starting position in 2010. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.

Round 5a
TJ Lang, OG, Eastern Michigan, 6-4, 316 lbs.

Lang can play multiple positions on the OL, but he projects the best inside. I think he can play Center as well. Also, Lang has the frame to add another 10-15 lbs. He's a Hudson Houck mauler type, like Robinson. Suddenly, our OL is starting to shape up. Lang is moving up the draft boards, hopefully we can still get him here.

Round 5b
Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian, 6-0, 185 lbs.
Knox is super fast, and with R Williams, Austin, Crayton, and Hurd, I don't think Knox needs to be rushed to produce. However, Garrett should be able to develop a few packages for Knox to utilize his speed from Day 1. Knox can also perform KR and PR duties, and we clearly need that added element. Knox has very good hands as well, and this is a player we should be able to develop over the next couple of years as he needs to get bigger and stronger.

Round 5c
Joe Burnett, CB, UCF, 5-10, 192 lbs.

Burnett is not super fast, but he is instinctive and productive. After parting ways with PacMan Jones and Henry, we need another CB. Burnett would start out as our 5th CB, but he has the skills to develop into much more than that.

Round 6a
Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M, 6-3, 225 lbs.

I think McGee is an excellent development QB. He has the raw tools, but he needs a lot more game time experience. McGee could go a round higher, but it's difficult to predict as he has limited experience.

Round 6b
C Clemons, FS, Clemson, 6-0, 208 lbs.

Clemons can definitely play centerfield on defense, and he also can run a sub 4.4 40. He is a playmaker who we can develop behind Ken Hamlin. Well, that's 3 Clemson players in my mock draft along with D. Scott and Michael Hamlin (purely unintentional)!

Round 7a
Philip Hunt, DE, Houston, 6-1, 261 lbs.

Hunt moves to OLB in Wade's 34. Again, a super productive college player with good physical abilities. Though Hunt is a bit short, he has good size in his lower and upper body. Hunt runs a 4.6 40 as well.

Round 7b
L Murtha, OT, Nebraska, 6-7, 306 lbs.

I'm going heavy on the OL this draft. Murtha has the physical attributes, but he needs to stay healthy.

Alternates to Murtha (as he is moving up the draft boards):
Alt 1. Antonio Appleby, ILB, Virginia, 6-4, 243 lbs. He fits in right away.
Alt 2. Ra'Shon Harris, Oregon, DT, 6-4, 300 lbs. (projects to DE) We stash him on the PS for a year. Cowboys have shown interest in this player.

Interesting draft. I like the top two choices....I would consider it a successful draft if we came away with those two guys....and Jason Williams.

I see Scott as a Ratliff-type player. More suited to DE....but can play NT. I'd really like to see us pick up a solid NT.

Nice job though.
 

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Bizwah;2707690 said:
Interesting draft. I like the top two choices....I would consider it a successful draft if we came away with those two guys....and Jason Williams.

I see Scott as a Ratliff-type player. More suited to DE....but can play NT. I'd really like to see us pick up a solid NT.

Nice job though.

Thanks Bizwah. According to the draft gurus, they say that Scott should be able to put on another 15 lbs on his frame. That would put him at around 325 lbs. But you're right, I see him as a Ratliff type as well in that he should be able to play either DE or NT.

I'm also assuming that Siavii has a pretty good chance to make the club as well, so Scott would initially start out at DE (like Ratliff did in his career).
 

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I would be very happy with that draft

starting to warm up alot to Phillip Hunt, he's confusing though, a great vertical leap 41 1/2", but only a 1.6 10-yard split, his shuttle (4.22), and 3cone times (6.93) are really good

and obviously he's an accomplished pass-rusher
 

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Round 2 - Duke Robinson, OG, Oklahoma, 6-5, 329 lbs.
Round 3 - Dorell Scott, DT, Clemson, 6-3, 312 lbs.
Round 4a - Jason Williams, LB, Western Illinois, 6-1, 241 lbs
Round 4b - Michael Hamlin, SS, Clemson, 6-2, 214 lbs.
Round 5a - TJ Lang, OG, Eastern Michigan, 6-4, 316 lbs.
Round 5b - Johnny Knox, WR, Abilene Christian, 6-0, 185 lbs.
Round 5c - Joe Burnett, CB, UCF, 5-10, 192 lbs.
Round 6a - Stephen McGee, QB, Texas A&M, 6-3, 225 lbs.
Round 6b - C Clemons, FS, Clemson, 6-0, 208 lbs.
Round 7a - Philip Hunt, DE, Houston, 6-1, 261 lbs.
Round 7b - L Murtha, OT, Nebraska, 6-7, 306 lbs.

Picks I like -
Duke Robinson, TJ Lang, Johnny Knox, Joe Burnett, Chris Clemons

Picks I would hate
-Dorell Scott, Jason Williams, Michael Hamlin

I'm on the fence on McGee, Hunt, and Murtha. McGee doesn't seem like a NFL QB to me but is a tough S O B. Hunt seemed to have his best games against lower level tackles. Murtha seemed very athletic at the combine but I'm not sure he's a football player.

What's with all the Clemson picks?
 

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Well done sir, well done..maybe switch Scott with Ellerbe? and then keep Jason Williams with that 4th to be OLB behind Spencer and Ware..I really like Hamlin in the 5th..could be a steal. Hamlin and Hamlin duo!

Overall good job bro.
 

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JerryAdvocate;2707734 said:
elaborate please


Scott faded out in too many games. With his size I felt he should have destroyed some of the blocking he went against. Hamlin is the exact type of safety we don't need. He is a strong safety only and doesn't impress me with his coverage ability.

As far as Williams, I know a lot of guys in The Zone like him, but I have yet to see what the fuss is about.
 

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Getting Scott to 69 might be difficult, but that is a great pick and value. I think he's in that 2-3 round range now.

If Dallas wants a NT that best fits their system, it's Dorell Scott. He's a better fit than Ron Brace. Brace is a pure space eater. Scott is legit one gap penetrator with pass rush abiltiy (can get into the backfield), or he could 2-gap if a team like Miami or New England drafted him. The only question is will Dallas draft him when Jay Ratliff is excelling there and likes it. I would draft him. He can line up beside Ratliff on nickel and dime, and he could play some end. Plus, Ratliff could play some end. I wouldn't hesitate to take him at 51 if I wanted a versatile NT with upside. He is a leader and plays hard. He's a competitor.

Taking Micheal Hamlin in round 4 is a good safety value. He has production and Clemons has good production, too. Better yet, Clemons has jets (4.38 speed). He would be a real good value and help special teams out big time. I would rather take him or Bruton over Delmas or Johnson. You can develop him behind Ken Hamlin (big $ player at FS).

I like the fact that you passed up the top part of the safety pool, because you dipped into the real value. (Players like Vaughn, Hamlin, Bruton, Clemons, Taylor, and Greene are great value picks later in the draft, except Vaughn. He's the a better value in the late 2nd-early 3rd round.

If you get Jason Williams in round 4, that is a good pick.
 

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Chris in SoCal;2707779 said:
Scott faded out in too many games. With his size I felt he should have destroyed some of the blocking he went against. Hamlin is the exact type of safety we don't need. He is a strong safety only and doesn't impress me with his coverage ability.

As far as Williams, I know a lot of guys in The Zone like him, but I have yet to see what the fuss is about.


Don't forget Scott hurt his knee last year and wasn't 100%. He has all the tools. Plus, Clemson's team was in complete free-fall.

Hamlin looks like a clone of his cousin, except, he can tackle in space. He isn't afraid.
 

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If Scott was hurt then I would take back my statement and give him props for playing through the injury. I watched some Georgia Tech and NC State linemen just push him around. If he didn't get a good jump it seemed like he just sat there and allowed himself to be blocked.

What the heck happened to Clemson?

So much NFL talent. They seemed like a Top 10 team coming into last year. Ouch, that sounds familiar :starspin
 

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41gy#;2707796 said:
Getting Scott to 69 might be difficult, but that is a great pick and value. I think he's in that 2-3 round range now.


Taking Micheal Hamlin in round 4 is a good safey value. He has production and Clemons has good production, too. Better yet, Clemons has jets (4.38 speed). He would be a real good value and help special teams out big time. I would rather take him or Bruton over Delmas or Johnson. You can develop him behind Ken Hamlin (big $ player at FS).


If you get Jason Williams in round 4, that is a good pick.

Easy buddy..easy..let's not get crazy...
 

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Chris in SoCal;2707813 said:
If Scott was hurt then I would take back my statement and give him props for playing through the injury. I watched some Georgia Tech and NC State linemen just push him around. If he didn't get a good jump it seemed like he just sat there and allowed himself to be blocked.

What the heck happened to Clemson?

So much NFL talent. They seemed like a Top 10 team coming into last year. Ouch, that sounds familiar :starspin
they clearly disappointed, but most of the higher rated players stepped it up towards the end of the year, besides Michael Hamlin who was solid all year

and I've always been impressed with Hamlin's recognition, he always seemed to be around the ball, when he wasn't busy picking them off

now Jason Williams, you just have to love a player of his size and speed, and his aggressiveness, forced 14 fumbles, proved to be very good in coverage in Shrine game practices
 

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Chris in SoCal;2707813 said:
If Scott was hurt then I would take back my statement and give him props for playing through the injury. I watched some Georgia Tech and NC State linemen just push him around. If he didn't get a good jump it seemed like he just sat there and allowed himself to be blocked.

What the heck happened to Clemson?

So much NFL talent. They seemed like a Top 10 team coming into last year. Ouch, that sounds familiar :starspin

I only watched Clemson play one time against Alabama. Their offensive line was soft. The scheme wasn't physical. That was the problem, imo. Their coach lost the team, and they fell apart. The coach that took over won some games, I think. He got the job. They always have talent, but they can't get over the hump for some reason.

I've read where Scott hurt his knee against Florida State and wasn't the himself until the last few games. He went into last season as an Outland Trophy candidate, but he got hurt.

He's polished, and they say he's an emotional leader. Plus, I"ve read where he doesn't make the same mistake twice. Dallas needs hungry, smart players.

Since I really like him, it's probably the kiss of death, though. However, I wanted Felix Jones really bad, and although, I really liked Cromartie, I think Mike Jenkins is a bigger, stronger, and faster version of Asante Samuel. He should have played more, imo. I liked him, too, but I was shocked when Tampa Bay didn't take him. San Diego would have taken him if Dallas doesn't jump them.


Edit:

I forgot about the 46. Scott could line up at DE and shift over a guard when Dallas shifts into that Bear front. Ratliff would be over the center with two d-linemen flanking him on each side. The other two guys cover up the guards.

Now, who is going to replace Kevin Burnett in coverage, because I don't think it's Brooking. Carpenter (AKA Barbie) is a mid 4.6 guy. I think faster TEs will beat him in man coverage, especially out of those 46 Bear fronts.
 

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i wouldnt be unhappy if we took a guard with our 1st pick but i should think there will other higher ranked players still available @51.
 

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Overall a solid job but you committed two errors imho.

1) You took 2 OGs without addressing Center. This is a bad mistake to make this draft because the OC value is much better and the class at center is amongst the best in a decade. Add to that we need an OG who can either help Gurode line everyone up and make playcalls or a new center and well you see the issues there.


2) You took 3 Clemson players. That's a school has hasn't experienced much success recently and Dallas likes guys who are team leaders of winning programs traditionally. Clemson did have a solid passing defense but being tied for 3rd best in the ACC is not exactly setting the world afire. And while I see the appeal of another Hamlin we need a safety who can flat out cover. Not just area but actual bodies. You ask how I know? Because we were going to use Scandrick there until we signed Sensabaugh. Sensabaugh is a short-term guy and we will look to add someone of that same mold. Hamlin only makes sense if we are cutting the other Hamlin imho.
 

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Love it. I think Scott just needs to be consistent and he could be a dominating player from what I read. Absolutely love the Lang pick but he might not be around until the 5th. He is moving up the boards from what I read. Great job and well done.
 
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