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Woodson: Cowboys rolling dice at safety
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May, 27, 2010 May 273:25PM ETEmail Print Share By Matt Mosley
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The Cowboys have penciled in the unproven Alan Ball as the starting free safety in 2010.Over the years I've found that Darren Woodson's cellphone number comes in handy when I'm about to write a column overreacting to something going on with the Dallas Cowboys' secondary. I used to call Woodson to find out what was wrong with his former teammate and friend, Roy Williams. You might recall that Williams' once red-hot career quickly lost steam about the time Woodson retired in '04 because of a back injury.

The Cowboys spent years in the safety wilderness following Woodson's departure, and that's why I'm a bit surprised they seem so comfortable heading into the 2010 season with the largely unproven Alan Ball penciled in at free safety. When you've been held hostage by a position for years at a time, it seems like you would be leery of winging it with a former cornerback who's started all of four games in his three years in the league. Since Woodson tends to be a bit more level-headed than the NFC East blog, I asked him if he was as calm as the Cowboys appear to be about Ball being the starter.

"They have to be nervous about Alan Ball starting at safety," Woodson said Thursday afternoon. "He's a cornerback playing safety. He has a cover mentality, and that's apparently what they want. They want a ballhawk back there."

And no matter where you stand on the Alan Ball era in North Texas, it's probably a little early to refer to him as a ballhawk. He's still waiting on his first career interception and he has four pass breakups on his limited resume. There's also the little issue about him still looking like a cornerback at 6-feet-1, 190 pounds, which is about five pounds heavier than where he left off last season.

Cowboys head coach/pacifist Wade Phillips has been complimentary of Ball the past few weeks. I've looked hard for worry on his face, but he has yet to change facial expressions in his three years with the club. In this case, I'll let Woodson do the worrying.

"The problem you have is in the running game," said Woodson. "If you have a strong runner who gets to the second level, is Alan Ball going to make a play for you? That's the question mark in my mind. If he has to cover the tight end or a slot receiver one on one, I think he'll be fine."

Some of you might recall that Woodson made his reputation as one of the fiercest hitters in the league. You can almost hear his stomach turning when he talks about how current players in the Cowboys' secondary try to "cut" ballcarriers. Former Cowboys defensive coordinator Mike Zimmer, now with the Bengals, was adamant that tackling below the waist often allowed runners to gain three or four extra yards. He even tried to convince Deion Sanders to hit a running back high every now and then.

As Woodson noted, the Cowboys don't exactly have the surest tacklers lining up in the secondary. Cornerbacks Terence Newman and Mike Jenkins are both solid coverage guys, but I'm not sure receivers fear going across the middle. And have you ever seen a receiver alligator-arm a pass when Gerald Sensabaugh's in the area? At least there was fear of a late hit when Ken Hamlin was on the field.

"If you wanted to play for Jimmy Johnson, you better be a sure tackler," Woodson said. "If you missed a tackle, that's your [butt]."

Phillips had a little different take on the situation last week when asked about Ball's lack of size. He can't really envision open-field tackles being a concern for the fourth-year player.

"His tackling and stuff, in the ballgames, because of his size, is really the only drawback on him," Phillips said. "I think he's going to be a really good free safety-type guy. Our free safety wasn't involved in a lot of the tackling, anyway."

I'd hate to remind Phillips of a certain play in Denver last season when Brandon Marshall caught a pass and then made like Earl Campbell on his way to the end zone. It's interesting that the Cowboys may have some of the surest tacklers in the league at inside linebacker. Bradie James and Keith Brooking don't often miss. But if a running back is fortunate enough to reach the second level, it's not as if Cliff Harris will be roaming around.

On Monday, I dropped by the Cowboys' organized team activities to visit with Ball's position coach, Brett Maxie, who played 13 years in the league and was an excellent free safety with the Saints. Maxie's a straight-shooter who doesn't praise a guy if he doesn't have some ability. I asked him if he'd noticed anything different about Ball this offseason.

"It's inevitable that when your role changes, you become that much more aware," Maxie said of Ball's promotion to starter. "He's gone from being a situational player to an every-down player. You can just see it in the way he carries himself on the field. He's talking to guys and he's making adjustments and corrections on the field."

To be clear, the Cowboys haven't promised Ball anything. They love second-year safety Mike Hamlin's potential, but he's basically starting over after breaking his forearm in the '09 preseason. For all we know, Ball might be an excellent fit at free safety.

But the Cowboys have been down this road before with unproven players at that position. And that's why it's a little unsettling they're willing to roll the dice again.Tags:Dallas Cowboys, Darren Woodson, Alan Ball, Roy Williams
 
I like the sentiment....and I REALLY wish Woodson would just fuse those bones together and get his *** back in uniform....but I don't think there is much relevance to this topic anymore.

We all like big hits. That's a no-brainer...

...but I bet we dislike getting burned deep over the middle for 60 yards a HELL of a lot more than we like a good "pop" on a slant route.

FWIW, I think our CB's did some pretty impressive hitting last year. Newman and Jenkins put some solid licks on receivers and RBs last year. Sensabaugh has shown the ability to hit someone as much as Hamlin ever did...I don't think Hamlin's hitting ability is worth losing much sleep over.

Ball is built to thinly for my comfort back there, and I don't particularly want to see any RB's get to the second level with a head of steam behind them....but I'd take my chances with that over going back to the days of giving up 2-3 BIG pass plays every game circa 2006. I cringed and closed my eyes every time a QB took more than a 3 step drop....
 
It's not really rolling the dice when anyone else we put in will be an upgrade from the bum we used to have.
 
that is a really neat picture, almost looks like a painting.

If Ball sticks that dude that does the painting things should do that picture.
 
In the Kansas City game last year, we had them deep in their own half facing a 3rd and twenty something, we sub Ball in at safety, Bobby Wade comes over the middle and Ball lays a perfectly legal hit on him (shoulder into chest) and a penalty is called with Kansas City getting a new 1st down.

In the Sandiego game, Malcolm Floyd runs down the middle of the field seemingly open, Rivers lofts one up, but Ball with the catchup speed of a corner back gets there and makes a play on the ball. He also ran stride for stride with NO's Devery Henderson on a similar play in the next game.

I'll happily trade the former for the latter. This isn't your grand dad's NFL. Those hits don't mean much any longer. Cover ability though, means a lot.


And btw, he played in the Raiders game last year when our front 7 have some of their biggest holes of the whole season and didn't give up any long runs. He also came up to stop a few break aways by tackling in the San Diego game.
 
newnationcb;3417734 said:
In the Kansas City game last year, we had them deep in their own half facing a 3rd and twenty something, we sub Ball in at safety, Bobby Wade comes over the middle and Ball lays a perfectly legal hit on him (shoulder into chest) and a penalty is called with Kansas City getting a new 1st down.

In the Sandiego game, Malcolm Floyd runs down the middle of the field seemingly open, Rivers lofts one up, but Ball with the catchup speed of a corner back gets there and makes a play on the ball. He also ran stride for stride with NO's Devery Henderson on a similar play in the next game.

I'll happily trade the former for the latter. This isn't your grand dad's NFL. Those hits don't mean much any longer. Cover ability though, means a lot.


And btw, he played in the Raiders game last year when our front 7 have some of their biggest holes of the whole season and didn't give up any long runs. He also came up to stop a few break aways by tackling in the San Diego game.

Agreed 100%, lets put another roy williams back there and see how fast people are asking for a "coverage" safety to be swapped in. Our front 7 are good enough against the run that we dont have to put as much emphasis on stopping the run in the secondary.
 
Those big hits over the middle is almost non existence in today's NFL the wr are now over protected as much as the QB. If you through a good legal hit you may still get a flag and a fine. Making guys get alligator arms is hard to do when those guys know they are protected as a defenseless wr.
 
He may not be perfect, but he won't be any worse than the last guy who was back there.
 
cowboyjoe;3417696 said:
Cowboys head coach/pacifist Wade Phillips has been complimentary of Ball the past few weeks. I've looked hard for worry on his face, but he has yet to change facial expressions in his three years with the club. In this case, I'll let Woodson do the worrying.

Oh boy..
:lmao2: :lmao2:
 
CowboyMcCoy;3418427 said:
Agreed. He may play bigger than he really is.

That Kansas City hit comes to mind. He definitely does play bigger than he is IMO, like you said.
 
Bleu Star;3418331 said:
Yeah. The only problem is he's a ripped 120lbs. RBs will eat his lunch time & time again.

Well I saw guys eating up both Sensabaugh and Hamlin last season so that wouldn't be too out of the ordinary. Our defensive line is pretty solid against the running game. My main fear is the coverage of our safeties. I believe Sensabaugh will be fine. HE was solid with the cast on his arm. I think he'll be even better this season. Ball is a question mark. Anyone concerns on him are valid. But I can say that I liked what he did last season. He didn't have the key INT but I don't recall teams going deep on us with him out there. He tackled decent. He should be even better this season. How good that will make him has yet to be seen.
 
Bleu Star;3418331 said:
Yeah. The only problem is he's a ripped 120lbs. RBs will eat his lunch time & time again.
I sincerely doubt we will be seeing Alan Ball down in the box that often.
 
In todays PC NFL big hits are not PC and that is that. Its all about coverage.
 
Cwat81;3418324 said:
my god I friggin hate Mosely. He is such a ******y hack.

What was up with this comment:

Cowboys head coach/pacifist Wade Phillips

Did Wade refuse to help Mosely take some kindergartner's lunch money or something?

All of these no-talent hacks like Mosely and Galloway like to insert these little insults with no explanation as to why they are doing it.

How is Phillips a "pacifist"? Because he doesn't yell at guys or get in their faces after every mistake, that makes him a "pacifist"? Because he is soft-spoken? So was Tom Landry who was a bomber co-pilot during WWII with 30 combat missions. I guess he was a "pacifist" too. :rolleyes:

I find that I read less and less from the mediots these days as they have less and less to offer in the way of real information and zero insight, just an agenda and a bunch of made up "rumors" or "speculations" that they attribute to "sources" but in reality their source is usually their own keaster.
 
Best Safeties in the league now are much smaller than Woodson was. Polamalu and Ed Reed are not known for big hits. They are playmakers who have great ballhawk abilities and blitz occasionally. Neither of them are taller than 6'. Both are around 5'10". You can even throw in lil Bob Sanders when he isnt injured. The position/game has changed since Woodson's playing days.
 

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