Would Shawn Andrews be an upgrade over Kosier?? *Merge*

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InmanRoshi;3311080 said:
Is that a testament to Kyle Kosier's supposed greatness or Montrae Holland/Corey Proctor's lack thereof?

The Cowboys are giving serious consideration and attention to interior linemen during the draft process. I assume that's for a reason.
Part of the reason is that Kosier is in the final year of his contract and is getting up there in age.
 

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InmanRoshi;3311089 said:
I would still take a flier on him on an incentive based contract, especially since he has played guard and tackle.

If you're chosing to wait it out and go shopping in the bargain bin of free agency, these are the kind of prospects you're looking at ... guys with red flags. We wouldn't have gotten Sensabaugh so cheap last year if it weren't for his penchant for luxory automobiles and semi-automatic rifles.

I'd second the notion, as long as it was a low base number with incentives attached.

It will be interesting to see if they do have interest because I do remember reading that they were very interested in drafting him that year before the Eagles grabbed him.

High-risk, high reward scenario.
 

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cowboyjoe;3311083 said:
yep, back injury and remember he also had a serious ankle injury too. he is done. Other reports too have him no longer interested in football either.

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InmanRoshi;3311080 said:
Is that a testament to Kyle Kosier's supposed greatness or Montrae Holland/Corey Proctor's lack thereof?

The Cowboys are giving serious consideration and attention to interior linemen during the draft process. I assume that's for a reason.

for the whole season it seemed we had interior pass protection problems. To my untrained eye it looked repeatedly like gurode and davis were making mistakes against teams that were stunting and running delays on us.

but then one morning I caught jaworski on nfl playbook blaiming the interior pressure on romo, he broke down a couple of plays and showed how romo was waiting for guys to get open and held the ball knowing he could make people miss....

Honestly to this moment i am not sure if that is a knock on romo, a praising of romos abilities or a knock on the wr/te/rb.

All I know is, pass protection got us beat for the most part in minnesota and it played a role in a couple of other games that we won and lost. Seattle and Atlanta had us confused a number of times and got a ton of pressure on romo, but they couldnt hold up in the back end and romo made them pay for it.......also romo is able to evade so many would be sacks and tackles that it goes unnoticed.

The touchdowns against washington and atlanta were in the same spot on the same end of the field and the same thing happened....both should have been sacks and both became touchdowns.

I am of the opinion that the line played well all year but there are no sacred cows up front. I keep hearing analysts and fans on here saying the cowboys dont have needs and that is complete balogny.....Every team needs to improve and we certainly do also.

I am all for bringing in all the talent we can possibly get in the draft to compete up front.
 

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Alexander;3311055 said:
Eventually, people will quit repeating the "Kosier must be replaced" mantra with something that actually makes sense.

No they won't. Most people here have no idea how he rated out the last couple of years. It is much easier to stay uninformed and stick with the pack mentality. Every position must have a whipping boy. It's just the way it is with some folks.
 

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Gotta love the "razorback" being thrown in there. How many Ark players have been on our roster? I can only name three Felix, Stoerner, and the young WR that tore up his knee during the first Hard Knocks.
 

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JBond;3311134 said:
No they won't. Most people here have no idea how he rated out the last couple of years. It is much easier to stay uninformed and stick with the pack mentality. Every position must have a whipping boy. It's just the way it is with some folks.
The staff has been pretty consistent in their statements that Kosier has graded out the best.

Now does that mean he's untouchable or that we should cease looking for future options? Of course not. There are only a couple of players on this entire roster that fall in that category.

But threads like this are irritating when it implies he is a clear and absolute weak link to the point that someone who has barely played football in two years due to a bad back would possibly be an "upgrade".
 

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InmanRoshi;3311089 said:
I would still take a flier on him on an incentive based contract, especially since he has played guard and tackle.

If you're chosing to wait it out and go shopping in the bargain bin of free agency, these are the kind of prospects you're looking at ... guys with red flags. We wouldn't have gotten Sensabaugh so cheap last year if it weren't for his penchant for luxory automobiles and semi-automatic rifles.

Hey InamnRoshi, any chance you will be getting back to your near instantaneous recaps of press conferences this year? I miss them.
 

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Alexander;3311140 said:
The staff has been pretty consistent in their statements that Kosier has graded out the best.

Now does that mean he's untouchable or that we should cease looking for future options? Of course not. There are only a couple of players on this entire roster that fall in that category.

But threads like this are irritating when it implies he is a clear and absolute weak link to the point that someone who has barely played football in two years due to a bad back would possibly be an "upgrade".

I am always for upgrading and have no problem taking a guard at 27, but I think Koiser is pretty good. People complain about his lack of power. The funny part is many of these same people believe Free is the answer at LT who is also somewhat underwhelming in the power department.
 

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JBond;3311141 said:
Hey InamnRoshi, any chance you will be getting back to your near instantaneous recaps of press conferences this year? I miss them.

Sure, as soon as something happens that causes a press conference. But the audiostreaming, podcasts and dcfanatics media page have made my skills antiquated. You can get it from the source with tone, inflection, and without my selective bias inserted in.
 

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Yeagermeister;3311137 said:
Gotta love the "razorback" being thrown in there. How many Ark players have been on our roster? I can only name three Felix, Stoerner, and the young WR that tore up his knee during the first Hard Knocks.

Clint Stoerner alone makes the label warranted.

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Check out his youtube channel. Bigkid73 or something like that. Does this look like a mentally stable individual to you?
 

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Yeagermeister;3311137 said:
Gotta love the "razorback" being thrown in there. How many Ark players have been on our roster? I can only name three Felix, Stoerner, and the young WR that tore up his knee during the first Hard Knocks.

Since Jerry bought the team, there have been at least these guys --

Felix Jones
Ken Hamlin
Clint Stoerner
Tom Crowder
Jermaine Brooks
Tony Bua
Anthony Lucas


I doubt that's any more guys than a lot of other colleges of about the same talent level.
 

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The former first-round pick has played in just two games in the past two years because of back injuries. He missed the 2008 training camp because of depression.

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AdamJT13;3311175 said:
Since Jerry bought the team, there have been at least these guys --

Felix Jones
Ken Hamlin
Clint Stoerner
Tom Crowder
Jermaine Brooks
Tony Bua
Anthony Lucas


I doubt that's any more guys than a lot of other colleges of about the same talent level.

Forgot about Hamlin and Lucas was the wr I was thinking of

Other than Felix and Hamlin not much to look at
 

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Andrews to Dallas? Why not. Think of it this way... with all of the 2009 rookies we had on the bench with injuries last year, they will need some vereran leadership in the training room. You know, someone to show them how to use the ice tub, someone to show them how to use the exercise bikes on the sideline, someone to show them which trainers give the best massages, etc. Sounds like great match.
 

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I thought the guy quit on Philly after he signed a bad contract w/ them and they refused to renegotiate it. Seemed awful fishy how those injuries crept up soon after he realized how bad he got hosed..
 
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