Would you be ticked if Dallas drafted WR Santonio Holmes at #18?

[AMERICAS_FAN]

Exactly.

I think many are getting too strung out on who we take where.

But if we came out of the draft with:

1. A starting quality OLB.
2. A starting quality FS.
3. A WR that could potentially start within the next couple of seasons.
4. A developmental NT.
5. A developmental offensive lineman (or 2)
6. A fullback.

Heck, I'm going to be dancing in the streets!

Well yes, improvement in most areas of need would be great. I would however rather have a starting quality O-Lineman - a tackle who can play both sides - instead of A starting quality OLB. We already have Al Singleton coming back and he can play OLB (proved it last season). Overall, I think our current LB corps are better than people think, and our current OL corps are worse than people think. JMHO.

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[pgreptom]

I just hope in the first 3, we get a FS, LB, and OL/DL. I also hope we spend a 5th on a WR... There's a big talent gap between the 5th and 7th round buggers.

I really hope we trade down. Grab a late first, then we have a 1st, 2nd, 3rd, and possibly another 3. With 4 picks within the first three rounds, we can most definatley grab a FS, WR, LB, NT/OT.

 

[MichaelWinicki]

Well yes, improvement in most areas of need would be great. I would however rather have a starting quality O-Lineman - a tackle who can play both sides - instead of A starting quality OLB. We already have Al Singleton coming back and he can play OLB (proved it last season). Overall, I think our current LB corps are better than people think, and our current OL corps are worse than people think. JMHO.

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I think many fans have over-reacted to the tackle situation of last year.

To select an Olineman #1 to sit on the bench this year is downright goofy.

While I agree Al Singlleton is underrated by most fanst I think our OLB depth is dreadful or very, very unproven.

I envision a first or second round OLB coming in and at least splitting snaps with AS for this season.

Unless Fabini and Adams are both hurt you won't see a rookie OT come in and play much at all. Petitti will be thte #1 man off the bench. I'm this close | | to guaranteeing that.

 

[neosapien23]

For some reason, I would rather have one of the big recievers like Martin Nance or Maurice Stovall in the 3rd round. Both remind me of the big recievers that seem to dominate in the league. Nance could take over for TO when he retires or is let go.

 

[TruBlueCowboy]

Much more immediate need at linebacker, offensive line and safety. So yes, I'd be ticked!

 

[AsthmaField]

Exactly.

I think many are getting too strung out on who we take where.

But if we came out of the draft with:

1. A starting quality OLB.
2. A starting quality FS.
3. A WR that could potentially start within the next couple of seasons.
4. A developmental NT.
5. A developmental offensive lineman (or 2)
6. A fullback.

Heck, I'm going to be dancing in the streets!

I agree. That would be great... but our team is much better than it was a year ago. It's going to be much harder for players to make this roster than it was after last years draft. If we get a couple of starters at FS and OLB, and a WR, NT, OL, and FB that make the team (developmental)... were going to be staring at another home run draft.

I hope it happens, but I don't think they'll all make the squad this year.

I think for us to have an OLB that will start this season, we have to draft him in round 1 or 2.... unless we just get lucky later, that is. A starting FS will probably have to be found in rounds 1 - 3... I doubt we find a starter later than that, although it is of course, possible.

Finding backups at NT, OL, and FB are of course possibilities in any round, but not neccessarily likely. Dallas has a pretty deep and talented roster after the influx of free agent talent (Kosier, Fabini, Ayodele, Vanderjagt, Hannam) and with what we ended the season with.

Parcells likes Thomas "Pepper" Johnson and it'll have to be a good player to move him down the depth chart or off the team.

Parcells also likes Peterman, Gurode, and Pettiti. It will be hard to move them off of the roster. Heck, even Tarullo who is on the practic squad, is pretty highly thought of by Parcells. With Allen being released and Tucker going to Tampa though, there are some spots to fill.

The OL that I think will be here are:
Adams
Kosier
A. Johnson
Rivera
Fabini
Columbo
Peterman
Gurode
Pettiti

That might make one spot that we need to fill. That's 9 players... and 9 or 10 is all any team ever carries on the OL. Like I said, Peterman, Pettiti and Gurode are liked by the team much more than what a lot of people on this forum think, and I'm not sure that the Cowboys are looking to replace them.

Also at FB, Parcells likes Polite. I'm not sure he's looking to replace Lousaka and we won't carry more than 1 FB... so we might not do anything there.

So it will be harder to not only find starters... but to find players who will even be able to make the team.

As for drafting Holmes at 18... if Parcells and Ireland think he's so talented that they just can't pass him up, I'd be on board with it. I really don't think that'll be the case, and Parcells doesn't like drafting WR in the first round... but if it happened, I'd be okay with it. Probably because I know that he'd have to be something special to make Parcells draft him there.

 

[tripletsbestever]

show me Manny Lawson! in some minds holmes is the "best player available" @ #18, but we have to think about what 's "best for us right now" we need someone who will fill one of our needs and contribute immediately. Sure, KR is a need, but not worth it @ 18...( i know many have said the same thing, but i just had to get it out. ) OL, LB, even FS, but @ #18 Holmes is not the answer!

 

[Dat Dude]

Yes, because I think we could get Stovall (Notre Dame) a little later (2 or 3) and I believe he would make a great backup to Owens (very similar type receiver) and be ready to take over for him in two years.

You obviously dont watch many Notre Dame games... Stovall is far from explosive.. only a tad bit taller than keyshawn , without his route running, blocking or hands.. Drops too many balls and most of his Td's were jump balls in endzone from Quinn. I'd take Samarzdja next year over Stovall.


Stovall isnt a gamebreaker like Eldorado...

 

[Dat Dude]

Don't need Santonio Holmes... and Hos... He'd have to beat out Crayton to even get the #3 WR spot... I don't see it happening even if...

LOL .. A guy with legit 4.3 speed, explosive and decent hands (not as good as Crayton) would make Crayton looked like the bum that Sean Taylor blasted. Dont know why people are so high on Crayton.. Made one play against Oakland (becasue Charles Woodson can tackle) and hes is the answer. Crayton is keyshawn without the attitude, blocking, route running and has his 4.6 speed. Also , everytime he returns a punt I crap in pants waiting for him to fumble to an arm tackle because he holds ball like a loaf of bread.

 

[ghst187]

Yes, because I think we could get Stovall (Notre Dame) a little later (2 or 3) and I believe he would make a great backup to Owens (very similar type receiver) and be ready to take over for him in two years.

I'm for Stovall!!!

 

[4lifecowboy]

For some reason, I would rather have one of the big recievers like Martin Nance or Maurice Stovall in the 3rd round. Both remind me of the big recievers that seem to dominate in the league. Nance could take over for TO when he retires or is let go.

Dominate the league? Have you heard of Steve Smith or Santana Moss talent comes in all shapes and sizes bro.

 

[theogt]

Dominate the league? Have you heard of Steve Smith or Santana Moss talent comes in all shapes and sizes bro.

Those guys hardly refute the notion that taller WRs dominate the league. Something like 13 of the last 15 top 5 receivers (over the past 3 years) have been tallker than 6'. Most of those were taller than 6'2" or 6'3".

 

[burmafrd]

I frankly do not think any WR this year deserves a first. And only about 3-4 LB's. If none of them fall to us then trade down. Realistically speaking I see BP drafting a guard this year- right now we have a bunch of tackles but only 3 guards since Gurode is supposed to be challenging at center. The young guys will be put under the microscope this camp- Columbo, Pettiti and Peterman will have to show solid improvement over last year to stick. Columbo will have to show that he is recovered. The FS situation- there really is only 1-2 worth a first and they will probably be gone by the time we draft- so once again trade down. I would not be all that upset if we trade all the way out of the first. I would love to get GIlles, Joseph or Spencer early in the 2nd; then maybe Stoval- that size is very intriguing and he knows how to use it. If we could somehow get a good LB, a guard and a FS the first day then a NT like FIfita the second day I would be happy.

 

[baj1dallas]

Not at all. First off I assume the Cowboys personell department knows the players a lot better than I do. Second, Holmes might turn into the next Steve Smith so even if he didn't start as a rookie, it would probably be worth it. Third, I don't think OL is as big a need anymore with Fabini here.

 

[speedkilz88]

No way Holmes is the BPA at #18. No way the Cowboys draft him in the first round at a whopping 179 pounds that he weighed in at the Ohio St. workout.

 

[theogt]

No way Holmes is the BPA at #18. No way the Cowboys draft him in the first round at a whopping 179 pounds that he weighed in at the Ohio St. workout.

Yeah, no kidding. He may be among some of the best players available at that point, but he wouldn't be so clearly *THE* BPA that it would warrant a selection over our other needs.

 

[tripletsbestever]

"You obviously dont watch many Notre Dame games... Stovall is far from explosive.. only a tad bit taller than keyshawn , without his route running, blocking or hands.. Drops too many balls and most of his Td's were jump balls in endzone from Quinn. I'd take Samarzdja next year over Stovall."

I'll take Quinn over samardzija and stovall!:sshhh:

 

[ThreeSportStar80]

I wouldn't be happy if the Cowboys took any WR in the first round after carefully rethinking. I admitt Chad Jackson from Florida intrigues me a lot, more so than Holmes, because he has the speed and the size to be a #1 at the next level.

 

[Zippy Speedster]

Would love it. I'll be upset if we go defense again. Either WR to replace Glenn or one of the OTs. Holmes would fit the bill imo.

 

[theogt]

Would love it. I'll be upset if we go defense again. Either WR to replace Glenn or one of the OTs. Holmes would fit the bill imo.

Don't say you weren't warned, cause I'm telling you now that its extremely likely we're going defense with the first pick.