Would you still be a Cowboys fan if league was rigged?

[Miller]

The refs aren’t good but I don’t see siding with a team. The issue with the people here is they have selective memory. The Eagles game we got a ton of calls and no one cares…we won. Every week in the game threads I point out our fortunate iffy calls and no one responds. It’s only when the zealots think “we got screwed” that refs are brought up. The players have bought into the bs as an excuse too

 

[StarBoyz83]

The Pittsburgh Steelers defeated the Seattle Seahawks 21-10 in Super Bowl XL on February 5, 2006 at Ford Field in Detroit. This one I felt was not on the up and up. Busses last career game in his hometown of Detroit given honorary key to the city. Yea, wasn't a fair competition. Seattle got jobbed big time. The No/Minny game was super blatant, clear as day. All head scratchers.

Cards got screwed vs the stealers also

 

[Mark]

The League IS unquestionably, now, today, "influenced" (by types who could easily fit a non-compliant Commissioner with cement shoes), and I'm still a DC fan. I keep watching. My "bad."

Is it not insanity to blithely think the NFL's alliance with professional gamblers playing with billions of dollars every weekend - belonging to servile souls who believe in the "integrity of the game" - does not influence outcomes...even a little bit?

My opinion, for entertainment purposes only.

 

[stiletto]

I'm still a Hulk Hogan fan but I loved Roddy Piper too, I don't know what to think...

 

[IceStar-D7]

Life is pretty much rigged..

 

[Diehardblues]

Do we watch wrestling? Of course not. It would all be BS which is its involving Parsons being screwed.

Here’s our owners explanation :

• "Jones said Tuesday on 105.3 FM The Fan. They won't call a holding penalty in a certain range of holding, usually, if they don't think the player would've gotten to the quarterback to begin with.

 

[Diehardblues]

From Dallas cowboys.com

Teams can send plays into the league the day after games for review and clarification of a call or no call so teams can use for teaching points one way or another. At times the NFL will respond by saying, yep, bad call or missed call if that is truly how they judged. But what good does that do? Can't take 'em back.

But officials do get judged after each performance. And one would hope these officials don't have rabbit ears, allowing criticism to affect their judgments going forward. Can't imagine they don't have thicker skin than to retaliate against a player complaining about missed calls. Just do your job. But they sure were quick to flag Micah for a late hit on Tua, Micah saying afterward head ref Shawm Hochuli told him "he should have pulled off."

 

[Brooksey]

The League IS unquestionably, now, today, "influenced" (by types who could easily fit a non-compliant Commissioner with cement shoes), and I'm still a DC fan. I keep watching. My "bad."

Is it not insanity to blithely think the NFL's alliance with professional gamblers playing with billions of dollars every weekend - belonging to servile souls who believe in the "integrity of the game" - does not influence outcomes...even a little bit?

My opinion, for entertainment purposes only.

300M per week to be exact with 100M sometimes being on the Cowboys games. Who cares if Holding calls are "Subjective" and not "Reviewable"...what could go wrong?

 

[cald0d30s0]

Jeebus these threads

Haha, next one is: “Would you still watch the NFL if you were dead?”.

 

[Cowboys5217]

Cards got screwed vs the stealers also

So did Dallas in SB X. Phantom pass interference changed the momentum and the game.

 

[MS17]

The League IS unquestionably, now, today, "influenced" (by types who could easily fit a non-compliant Commissioner with cement shoes), and I'm still a DC fan. I keep watching. My "bad."

Is it not insanity to blithely think the NFL's alliance with professional gamblers playing with billions of dollars every weekend - belonging to servile souls who believe in the "integrity of the game" - does not influence outcomes...even a little bit?

My opinion, for entertainment purposes only.

Very cogent and concise points. Appreciated.
The NFL is a business enterprise; its principle business entertainment.

 

[MS17]

Here’s our owners explanation :

• "Jones said Tuesday on 105.3 FM The Fan. They won't call a holding penalty in a certain range of holding, usually, if they don't think the player would've gotten to the quarterback to begin with.

Oh, Great. I could've used that line 50 or 60 years ago when my mama caught me stealing the last fig newtons from the cookie jar.

 

[ICP]

If there was conclusive evidence that the 'NFL' was rigging games why would ANYONE be a fan?

 

[buybuydandavis]

There’s been so much talk over the officiating this year . But my bigger question is why would you be a fan of the NFL if thought it was rigged or fake ?

Questionable and poor officiating has always been part of the game . In real time it’s often difficult to see very angle . I have a brother in law who did officiating at amateur level and said they simply don’t always see these happening in real time .

The only answer is reviewing every play which surely no one really wants . It’s already dumbing down having to review every TD and catch. Does the game really have to be perfection.

Regardless the sport whether it’s a ball or strike , a personal foul or holding and interference there is a judgement in play based on how they see or don’t see it.

But to suggest without any other evidence that multiple slow-mo camera footage officials aren’t privy to in real time . Over the years we’ve never had any whistle blower , a disgruntled former official or employee , not one bit of evidence of any official or crews of any personal or organized collusion to rig or throw games .

All we have is camera footage after the fact. And of course very frustrated fans who are beside themselves with calls which appear so obvious on camera .

I’m sorry but until further evidence that footage after the fact I’m going to call it more sour grapes which I’m not saying isn’t justified but calling it rigged is baseless . And if they truly believe the league is rigged then why so much vested interest in a fake sport ?

If?

 

[Diehardblues]

If?

So you believe the NFL is Fake Football ? Totally rigged. Then why watch? Who would care?

 

[buybuydandavis]

So you believe the NFL is Fake Football ? Totally rigged. Then why watch? Who would care?

Not totally rigged.

They don't want to make it too obvious.

People watch professional wrestling and politics.

It's a kayfabe world .

 

[kskboys]

In the past there has been a known effort not to make more obvious calls near the end of game. To let them play.

And while it was blatantly obvious to us if you are in the mindset of letting them play in that situation I could see where an official might be hesitant in making that call.

That’s where the league can manipulate. Just like new rules protecting QB, leading with helmet and PI. All of which create more penalties and judgment calls which we all hate to see.

So in that sense I agree. The league has interfered with the game . Some of it to protect their most valuable assets, protection from lawsuits and creating more scoring and passing.

All manipulations of the game. But not organized or even individual criminal intent or negligence which is basically what fans are accusing them of if they are intentionally throwing games.

Dang, dude, 100 degree turnaround. You're denying manipulation, but then explain how refs ignore calls in certain situations. Greg, that is the very definition of manipulating games.

 

[kskboys]

Baloney.

People see the biased referee calls/non-calls happening today, yet fans keep watching.

More and more, I'm finding it amazing what people can be taught to believe. Simple brainwashing.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dang, dude, 100 degree turnaround. You're denying manipulation, but then explain how refs ignore calls in certain situations. Greg, that is the very definition of manipulating games.

Manipulation in how the games are called, the rules implemented, etc obviously impact the results. Which are broad strokes from the onset to impact the games.

That doesn’t translate to intentional collusion by the league or individual bias against certain teams which would be attempting to throw certain games against certain teams .

I either didn’t make myself clearer initially in the difference or you misinterpreted.

 

[Diehardblues]

Dang, dude, 100 degree turnaround. You're denying manipulation, but then explain how refs ignore calls in certain situations. Greg, that is the very definition of manipulating games.

I just wanted to add that while an organized league effort to refrain from making calls in certain situations is manipulating the games but not individually certain teams or games.

Which is the basis of my argument that the games are not being intentionally thrown on certain teams or by individual officials.

It’s the leagues guidelines to officials and rules which are often impacting and manipulating the results to all teams and games. Not just isolated to one team which many fans have been arguing that the league and or officials is rigged against the Cowboys.

And I’d continue to maintain while the rules might be in favor of keeping the games close from a broad stoking effort league wide there isn’t individual cases or effort to throwing ongoing games to keep them close.