Would you take the job as Cowboys OC?

[dagreat1_87]

I ask this because of the Kellen Moore situation. Is it more about evaluating him, or evaluating around the league who actually has interest in taking the role? As of right now under contract we have Dak, Ceedee, G*ACL*"lup, Jalen Tolbert, a broken down Zeke, Malik Davis, and some young tight ends....Will this be who we go into training camp with? probably not, as draft picks/vets will come but you never know with this team...

They all have talent but outside of maybe Ceedee (looks to be finally past those drop issues), each one of those players has concerns that if i was trying to rehab my image (ex. Kingsbury), I wouldn't exactly be running at the chance of being scapegoated for them underperforming again....

Now it's the cowboys, so despite the lack of playoff success, we know we're still Americas team so there's always going to be someone who just wants the opportunity but in all honesty, would you want to be responsible for coming in and fixing this offense with the players we currently have? I'm not sure I would.

 

[Reality]

I think any offensive minded coach would jump at the chance to be the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys.

They have no recent Super Bowl history to live up to and they have enough players on offense to produce good offensive stats.

You combine that with the exposure they would receive for future potential head coaching positions by being a Cowboys assistant coach and just about any coach would want that opportunity.

 

[shabazz]

its not a bad gig…..just one quarterback away from a SB appearance

 

[805BoysInBlue]

No, too much nepotism. Dak kinda limits what you can do, especially if the Jones coaches tell you not to have Dak use his legs.

 

[LoneStar84]

I still think it’s highly likely that Moore is the OC next year. I just do not see Jerry letting him go. Jerry probably thinks he has dodged a bullet by Moore not getting hired for a head coaching gig yet.

 

[TheMarathonContinues]

I think its a good job. Anyone with a brain sees Dak is accurate passing on the run. Have solid backs. Solid receivers. If you want to pass 50 times a game though then yeah you may not want this offense. You might want to go coach Mahomes.

 

[cowboyec]

hell yes i'd take it.
in a ♡beat.

 

[Redline360]

As much as I would despise working for someone like Jerry Jones sign me up I can manage to copy the JG playbook

 

[silvernblu]

its not a bad gig…..just one quarterback away from a SB appearance

Kellen took a below average back up in Cooper Rush. Went 4-1 and beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Bengals.

Then Dak come back and goes 9-5. Leads league in INTS.

Tell me where the problem is.

 

[visionary]

No self respecting OC will take the job this year

Let’s examine the facts:

1. You will have to work with Dak who you know can’t read defenses and is liked by the owner. so good luck trying to get him to understand his deficiencies and work on them and your offense will be limited

2. McCarthy may have got the endorsement of Jerry but the fact that Quinn is coming back this year means that McCarthy is going to be dead man walking if we struggle. Quinn will likely be HC next year. Will he retain you? In essence if the offense struggles it is a one year job with you as the scapegoat

3. Stephen has a history of not spending cap money. They’re going to pay Parsons, Diggs and Lamb big money and 2 of these are on defense. Unlikely Stephen signs a big name offensive FA and rookies make little impact in year 1.

Put this together and the team is headed for a bad season with you as the scapegoat

Yeah, good luck with that

 

[shabazz]

I think its a good job. Anyone with a brain sees Dak is accurate passing on the run. Have solid backs. Solid receivers. If you want to pass 50 times a game though then yeah you may not want this offense. You might want to go coach Mahomes.

Dak averaged only 33 pass attempts per game in the regular and post season and still led the league in interceptions …….maybe the answer is to restrict him to under 25 passes a game an design all his throws to be on the run.

sounds like a game plan to me

 

[dagreat1_87]

I think any offensive minded coach would jump at the chance to be the offensive coordinator for the Cowboys.

They have no recent Super Bowl history to live up to and they have enough players on offense to produce good offensive stats.

You combine that with the exposure they would receive for future potential head coaching positions by being a Cowboys assistant coach and just about any coach would want that opportunity.

Even without the superbowl history, i think we always have high expectations especially with this fanbase. I agree that the exposure is a huge motivator to come here, but I just don't think the players we have under contract outside of ceedee and maybe Dak are as enticing to as many folks as we think. You'd be taking the job based on the hope that gallup returns to pre-acl form and the others jump to the next level which is a whole lot of uncertainty there.

 

[dagreat1_87]

No self respecting OC will take the job this year

Let’s examine the facts:

1. You will have to work with Dak who you know can’t read defenses and is liked by the owner. so good luck trying to get him to understand his deficiencies and work on them and your offense will be limited

2. McCarthy may have got the endorsement of Jerry but the fact that Quinn is coming back this year means that McCarthy is going to be dead man walking if we struggle. Quinn will likely be HC next year. Will he retain you? In essence if the offense struggles it is a one year job with you as the scapegoat

3. Stephen has a history of not spending cap money. They’re going to pay Parsons, Diggs and Lamb big money and 2 of these are on defense. Unlikely Stephen signs a big name offensive FA and rookies make little impact in year 1.

Put this together and the team is headed for a bad season with you as the scapegoat

Yeah, good luck with that

you pretty much are aligned with the thought process that led to me creating this thread. The OC would be coming in here with a lot of dysfunction and uncertainty....Feel like the option presented would to make this offense better with the players you have now, and not expect major additions outside of maybe some tier 3 free agents.

 

[erod]

Candidates know they'd have to leave more than half their playbook at home.

Scott Linehan was a hero around here until Dak showed up. Dez was an elite receiver until Dak showed up.

Linehan, Garrett, Moore, and McCarthy take the hits, when it's their limited QB who can't run a pro offense who is the problem.

They need a Kyle Shanahan type who wants to run the ball predominantly and use any spare-part QB you don't have to pay to score points.

 

[OmerV]

Well, they haven't reached out to me at this point, but if they do I would consider it.

 

[Fritsch_the_cat]

Hell yeah I'd take it but you think we are bad now wait until you see my offense.

 

[blueblood70]

I ask this because of the Kellen Moore situation. Is it more about evaluating him, or evaluating around the league who actually has interest in taking the role? As of right now under contract we have Dak, Ceedee, G*ACL*"lup, Jalen Tolbert, a broken down Zeke, Malik Davis, and some young tight ends....Will this be who we go into training camp with? probably not, as draft picks/vets will come but you never know with this team...

They all have talent but outside of maybe Ceedee (looks to be finally past those drop issues), each one of those players has concerns that if i was trying to rehab my image (ex. Kingsbury), I wouldn't exactly be running at the chance of being scapegoated for them underperforming again....

Now it's the cowboys, so despite the lack of playoff success, we know we're still Americas team so there's always going to be someone who just wants the opportunity but in all honesty, would you want to be responsible for coming in and fixing this offense with the players we currently have? I'm not sure I would.

as of now "will not hold true.. we are 4 months away from any organized team functions. last off season that what you all said, in preseason, historically bad was used, after dak went down, trade deadline passed, all this negative talk and yet we lost in the 2nd round of the playoffs on the road by 7 points, sure this is terrible pace top land give b2b 12 qin season and playoff berths..

I believe we had top 10 offense and Defense or higher...

Talents just so so bad..stay away lol

you all will NEVER kern to be patient before making ridiculous negative predictions.

I guess they could always coach on the 20 teams that do not make the payoffs every year instead of the team that won more games the lasty 2 seasons that any other team.. hmm

next

 

[dagreat1_87]

I still think it’s highly likely that Moore is the OC next year. I just do not see Jerry letting him go. Jerry probably thinks he has dodged a bullet by Moore not getting hired for a head coaching gig yet.

Honestly I think so too...i think the only way he's gone is if he asks to leave (mega unlikely) or McCarthy already knows a top name is interested in the OC gig (still unlikely for reasons i mentioned but better chance than moore leaving on his own)

Kellen took a below average back up in Cooper Rush. Went 4-1 and beat the eventual Super Bowl champion Bengals.

Then Dak come back and goes 9-5. Leads league in INTS.

Tell me where the problem is.

I hear ya...but i'm so tired of hearing this offense is predictable. it's been a recurring theme every year since garrett took over and i feel that plays a big part in us not getting further ahead because the best defenses already know what we're going to do...and they always stop it. Dak aint a top 5 qb but it's not always his fault his receivers always seem to be blanketed by a defender when he throws the ball. that's the defense knowing where to be.

 

[RS12]

Not if I was serious about winning a chip. If I needed a check, whatever.

 

[dagreat1_87]

Candidates know they'd have to leave more than half their playbook at home.

Scott Linehan was a hero around here until Dak showed up. Dez was an elite receiver until Dak showed up.

Linehan, Garrett, Moore, and McCarthy take the hits, when it's their limited QB who can't run a pro offense who is the problem.

They need a Kyle Shanahan type who wants to run the ball predominantly and use any spare-part QB you don't have to pay to score points.

absolutely agree we need a shanahan type of offense. would love to poach someone from his coaching tree but that would make too much sense for this team