Wow - has there ever been a more prophetic post than this on CZ??

[Martice]

Oops! Double post.

 

[Zaxor]

Fair enough. We all knew Bledsoe wasn't perfect. He was still the best available option for this team, and he still is. We need to put him in a position to succeed now.

I'm not sure about that friend.... I think the best option would have been to go with somebody that has an upside...that pass on Thanksgiving that Bledsoe threw for a int and a TD was the same one that got Henson pulled on Thanksgiving last year...Bledsoe will never learn.. and while there was not alot of choices to be had in the offseason would we have not been better served having played Henson or Romo or some other up and commer instead or the year before that with Testy...from what you have seen do you really believe that Bledsoe is the QB that can carry a team to the SB or is he just along for the ride...

Its great fun for us fans to play coach or gm...but me if I was either I would have never hitched my wagon to Bledsoe...not even as a stop gap

 

[Zaxor]

Well the Bills fan is 100% correct unfortunately. And anyone who has followed the NFL should've known these things about Bledsoe the day he signed with the Cowboys. It happens, but very rarely does a player re-invent himself 10+ years already in the league.

Now this doesn't mean Bledoes is terrible. He can still be a good QB at times. But the fact remains that you have to hold your breath when you know he as the QB is going into a hostile enviroment playing against a team that can bring pressure. I don't care how good/bad your O-Line may be, you're going to have to face and defeat pressure if you plan to be a succesful QB on a playoff team. I dont think Bledsoe can get that done.

He never has consistenly <sic> before... I think Troy Hambrick has a better chance of turning into Barry Sanders...or Randal (stone hands) Willams has of turning into Jerry Rice...

 

[Yakuza Rich]

Okay, I'm not a huge Bledsoe fan. In fact, my friends that are not Cowboys fans actually like the guy and ask me why I'm not thrilled and I just say "I don't trust him in the end." But, I'll give Bledsoe some credit for playing pretty well so far and in reality, he's not the root of the problem outside of the Seattle and Oakland games. That being said, he had rain in the Seattle game and a strong wind in the Oakland that hurt his play.

Bingo. Hey Dallas fans, do you feel like your offensive line suddenly got 100 times worse OVERNIGHT??? It's called the Bledsoe syndrome.

No, it's called Marco Rivera got hurt and hasn't been very good. Then Jacob Rogers was basically put on I-R (and released) and they were forced to move a 6th round rookie from backup LT to starting RT (a position he never played before). It's called your Pro Bowl left tackle got hurt. It's called teams have figured out that you can blitz hard up the middle against Al Johnson (who also is hurt) and Marco Rivera.....thus when Bledsoe takes a 5 step drop, he's got a defender pushing back his center and/or right guard 4 steps.

Oh yeah, let's not forget losing Patrick Crayton who was a valuable 3rd down WR.

You're going to feel it all year long.

Not true, didn't really start feeling it until the Seattle game and it didn't become full blown until the Philly game. Even still, he was only sacked twice by Philly and then by Denver.

There's no known cure at this time.

Sure there is. Have a good O-Line. Have good receivers. Max protect on occasion. Call good plays.

Last night was a perfect microcosm of what Bledsoe brings to the table. He is slow to read defenses, has little (if any) pocket presence, and doesn't protect the football.

Of course this was after the first preseason game, which is beyond meaningless.

Cons:
-can't play-action

Not true. He's been effective on play action for the most part all year long.

-can't throw screens

True, although Dallas has stunk at the screen for about 10 years.

-struggles to read defenses (needs no less than 4 seconds to read a standard D)

Not true.

-can't throw hot routes

When Dallas' O-Line wasn't injured and they had Crayton healthy, they were killing blitzing teams. In fact, Bledsoe's QB rating against the blitz is over 100.

-little pocket presence

Sort of true. I think he lacks good footwork. I mean Chad Hutchinson had little pocket presence. Drew seems to know the defender(s) are coming, he just can't avoid them.

-doesn't protect the ball

He isn't great at it. But he doesn't make impulse throws either.

-seems to get lazy as the year progresses

Remains to be seen.

-can't improvise

I'm guessing he means about when a play breaks down. Drew has been a decent audibler and was effective against the blitz early on in the season.


Again, I'm not a Bledsoe fanboy but unless Dallas has a Brady or Peyton Manning, they'd have major issues regardless on offense. Tends to happen when you have injuries and some players not playing up to expectations.

Rich..........

 

[cobra]

At one point this year, there was an argument over whether Bledsoe makes the Hall of Fame as one of the top passers of all time.

Now, after a bad game, we get the same knee-jerk (with emphasis on the jerk) posts about how awful he is and can't do anything correctly. Bledsoe can't read a defense? One struggles to wonder how a quarterback who struggles to read defenses has put up the numbers that Bledsoe has. That must be an easy position if a person can be crappy at reading defenses and still be one of the top 10 of all-time at the position.

It is sheer, unadulterated stupidity.

I have nothing but venomness contempt for posters like this; nothing is worse or more revolting than fickle fans.

 

[Ashwynn]

Bledsoes still better then Losman, so what do I care. We both have sucky QB. Yea!!!!

 

[Zaxor]

At one point this year, there was an argument over whether Bledsoe makes the Hall of Fame as one of the top passers of all time.

Now, after a bad game, we get the same knee-jerk (with emphasis on the jerk) posts about how awful he is and can't do anything correctly. Bledsoe can't read a defense? One struggles to wonder how a quarterback who struggles to read defenses has put up the numbers that Bledsoe has. That must be an easy position if a person can be crappy at reading defenses and still be one of the top 10 of all-time at the position.

It is sheer, unadulterated stupidity.

I have nothing but venomness contempt for posters like this; nothing is worse or more revolting than fickle fans.

And again for the simple minded (with emphasis on simple) who post or quote or draw reference to stoopid stats without taking anything but the end numbers into consideration... If Bledsoe is not the main cog and you do not need to rely on him he will do okay but that is it "okay"...when he went to the SB with Parcells he had...

on Offense

Curtis Martin, Ben Coates, Terry Glenn, Dave Meggett, Keith Byars, Sam Gash, Shawn Jefferson, Troy Brown, Adam Vinatieri...plus a very good o-line

on Defense

Lawyer Milloy, Tedy Bruschi, Willie McGinest, Tom Tupa, Ted Johnson, Ty Law, Chris Slade, Willie Clay, Otis Smith, Mike Jones just to name a few...

and they still lost the SB to GB

Passing New England Att. Comp. Yds. TD Int.
Bledsoe 48 25 253 2 4

now notice the Attempts 48... notice the Ints 4

Bledsoe has gotten or gets the opportunity to throw the ball quite abit

Career

attempts 6423
completions 3678 YUCK
% 57.3 YUCK
Yardage 42511YPA 6.62
TD 238
INT 192 YUCK
Sacked 430/2909 YUCK YUCK
Rate77.3

Testy's

attempts 6519
completions 3688
% 56.6
Yardage 45189
YPA 6.93
TD 268
INT 261
Sacked 408/2946
Rate 75.1

like it has been said before they are almost the same guy...except no one wants to put Testy in the HOF or even wants him Qbing the Cowboys..but they are almost the same guy...

You can call it however you wish but those who complain about Bledsoe have a well documented and legitment reasons to...

see there are those that come on here and spit venom at fans and than make no sense what so ever while doing it


It is sheer, unadulterated stupidity.

I have nothing but venomness contempt for posters like that; nothing is worse or more revolting than fans like that wouldn't you agree.

 

[CowboyExpress]

It all really started when Flozell went down and Tucker couldn't sub-in at center more often to give us that size cause he was needed elsewhere. Right around that time our running game snuffed itself out and inturn we had no play-action, which is our bread 'n butter as far as the passing game is concerned. People like to look outward towards that rookie or Torrin at the Tackles, but really it's Al Johnson in the center of the line where most of our trouble on the line is coming from, even with the injuries outside. The tee off point, as I like to call him. Or better yet, the split second jump defenses are being allowed to get to BEAT our rb's into the ground play after play. Killing our running game in it's tracks, killing any chance of play-action.

Now lets examine why that is? Why we rely so heavily on this "play-action" to succeed in our passing game. Better yet, lets go back and remember what Irvin said earlier this year...........we don't have a number 1 reciever.

But wait, our guys are putting up numbers like they are a number 1...at times. They are also walking around like they're number 1's, knowing all the right things to say it and when to say it. But here's a thought, neither, not even one of them, is close to being that true #1. Number 2's, yes. Guys you would love to have lined up opposite of that true honest to god game breaking on any play, number 1. Someone's whose age isn't going to be a determining blatently obvious factor come mid-season.

What we have now are two number two, whom if you combined their talents, would be that number 1. In Keyshawn you have the one who can catch the tough catch in single or double coverage, but he can't do very much afterwards and the big breaking plays seem to be missing from his playbook. Opposite him you have Terry Glenn who if in single coverage and able to get a jump on his guy, is, possibly one of the very best............just don't ever toss to him underneath or double team him.

Every year since Parcells has come here it's been the same story each season; our aging wide recievers are highly touted towards the beginning, but come around November time, their production greatly falls off. With the one exception of Keyshawn who just does what he does, nothing more nothing less- a very dependable possesion number 2 reciever, as he is, exactly as the back of the cerial box said.

Summed up; Our oline can't block, inturn taking away the running game, inturn allowing defenses to expose our number 2 WRs cause we have no playaction the very thing they rely on to survive, inturn leaving Bledsoe back there as a sitting duck.

Rehaul on Offense in the same vein as Defense last year is needed this upcoming year. And I say we go all for broke; Draft entirely OLine and use our money to sign a true lead running back and a true number 1 reciever out of FA.

As to the original post from this bill's fan. Just sour grapes. I seem to remember the exact opposite happening. I remember them starting off really bad and our hopes high for the top 10 number 1 pick they were going to graciously plop in our laps. Only that dang Bledsoe, so "crappy", had to play hero and lead them back through the season to a respectible record. And we sure as all heck lost that top 10 pick, which turned into a 20 by the time Bledsoe was finished talking.

And that's how I see it. lol