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Since I've seen a lot of arguing about receivers on here, I thought I'd put together my own power rankings. First off the bat, let me say that I haven't watched DJ Chark, and can't make my mind up at all about Equanemous St. Brown, so they are not on this list.

1. DJ Moore. My rule of thumb is I don't bet against players with good tape and good measurables. Moore tested at a 97th percentile athlete and won the Big 10 receiving crown even with 8 different QBs throwing to him, so how's that for film and measurables? He projects as somewhere between Steve Smith and Stefon Diggs. Top 25 grade.

2. Courtland Sutton. This is an all-upside ranking, as 6'4" 215 wideouts with faster 3-cones than Julian Edelman basically don't exist. His physical tools are create-a-player level, and he could be a dominant #1 if he puts it all together. On tape though, he's a one-speed loper who runs 2-3 routes and just outjumps sub-NFL athletes. His film looks a lot more like Terrance Williams than Julio Jones, but the Julio-type tools are there. 1st-2nd route grade.

3. DaeSean Hamilton. Played as a Marques Colston style big slot in college, but may have the size to play outside in the pros. He's a mediocre athlete, but just separates effortlessly from defenders. IMO, he's the kind of route runner that everyone thinks Calvin Ridley is. He's just always open. 2nd round grade.

4. Anthony Miller. A sharp cutter who can do some damage after the catch. I think his size and the spread offense he played in in college projects him more towards the slot, where he's one of a zillion YAC-ey slot guys in this class. But he's the best of them all. 2nd round grade.

5. Calvin Ridley. Basically the less-athletic Anthony Miller. He's fast and has experience running pro-style routes, which is hard to find in this draft. But he's old at 24 and is an awful athlete. How many jump balls did you see him win at Bama? I think his rail-thin frame and lack of explosion pushes him into the slot, and that lowers his value greatly. 2nd-3rd round grade.

6. Michael Gallup. Kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. Athletic, but not a burner. A solid route runner, but not a virtuoso. Good at running after the catch, but not a Dez or Golden Tate type menace. His measurables say outside receiver, and those are in short supply in this draft class. 3rd round.

7. Dante Pettis: He's got a lot going for him - tall, good route runner, very quick, might be able to stick outside in the pros. Ultimately I think he'll end up in the slot, which again dampens his value. But he's a good football player. 3rd round grade.

8. Christian Kirk. Randall Cobb-ish slot guy. Small, sloppy at running routes, and not nearly as athletic as he was billed, but he can make things happen after the catch. 3rd round grade.

9. James Washington. One-trick pony. He's got dangerous build-up speed once he gets running, but he's a poor route runner and struggles with press coverage because he doesn't release well. Big 12 teams didn't press him, NFL teams are going to make sure to press the snot out of him on the line. 4th round grade.
 
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Just as and FYI on the list this is Ourlads ranking from top.

Calvin Ridley
DJ Moore
Anthony Miller
Christian Kirk.
Courtland Sutton
James Washington
DJ Clark
E. St. Brown
Tre'Quan Smith
Dante Pettis
 
Hamilton is overrated on your list, St. Brown is underrated.
 
Since I've seen a lot of arguing about receivers on here, I thought I'd put together my own power rankings. First off the bat, let me say that I haven't watched DJ Chark, and can't make my mind up at all about Equanemous St. Brown, so they are not on this list.

1. DJ Moore. My rule of thumb is I don't bet against players with good tape and good measurables. Moore tested at a 97th percentile athlete and won the Big 10 receiving crown even with 8 different QBs throwing to him, so how's that for film and measurables? He projects as somewhere between Steve Smith and Stefon Diggs. Top 25 grade.

2. Courtland Sutton. This is an all-upside ranking, as 6'4" 215 wideouts with faster 3-cones than Julian Edelman basically don't exist. His physical tools are create-a-player level, and he could be a dominant #1 if he puts it all together. On tape though, he's a one-speed loper who runs 2-3 routes and just outjumps sub-NFL athletes. His film looks a lot more like Terrance Williams than Julio Jones, but the Julio-type tools are there. 1st-2nd route grade.

3. DaeSean Hamilton. Played as a Marques Colston style big slot in college, but may have the size to play outside in the pros. He's a mediocre athlete, but just separates effortlessly from defenders. IMO, he's the kind of route runner that everyone thinks Calvin Ridley is. He's just always open. 2nd round grade.

4. Anthony Miller. A sharp cutter who can do some damage after the catch. I think his size and the spread offense he played in in college projects him more towards the slot, where he's one of a zillion YAC-ey slot guys in this class. But he's the best of them all. 2nd round grade.

5. Calvin Ridley. Basically the less-athletic Anthony Miller. He's fast and has experience running pro-style routes, which is hard to find in this draft. But he's old at 24 and is an awful athlete. How many jump balls did you see him win at Bama? I think his rail-thin frame and lack of explosion pushes him into the slot, and that lowers his value greatly. 2nd-3rd round grade.

6. Michael Gallup. Kind of a jack of all trades, master of none. Athletic, but not a burner. A solid route runner, but not a virtuoso. Good at running after the catch, but not a Dez or Golden Tate type menace. His measurables say outside receiver, and those are in short supply in this draft class. 3rd round.

7. Dante Pettis: He's got a lot going for him - tall, good route runner, very quick, might be able to stick outside in the pros. Ultimately I think he'll end up in the slot, which again dampens his value. But he's a good football player. 3rd round grade.

8. Christian Kirk. Randall Cobb-ish slot guy. Small, sloppy at running routes, and not nearly as athletic as he was billed, but he can make things happen after the catch. 3rd round grade.

9. James Washington. One-trick pony. He's got dangerous build-up speed once he gets running, but he's a poor route runner and struggles with press coverage because he doesn't release well. Big 12 teams didn't press him, NFL teams are going to make sure to press the snot out of him on the line. 4th round grade.


I'd like to see you take a shot on evaluating St. Brown.


He's my #1 guy.. He's not on your list. Just curious of your thoughts.

Awesome write up.
 
Here’s a fun comparison.

Courtland Sutton vs Jaleel Scott

Age - 22 vs 23
Height - 6’3” vs 6’5”
Weight - 218 lbs vs 215 lbs
Arms - 32 3/8” vs 33 1/2”
Hands - 9 3/4” vs 10 1/2”
40 Yard Dash - 4.54 vs 4.56
Bench Press - 18 vs 16
Vertical Jump - 35.5” vs 34.5”
Broad Jump - 124.0” vs 124.0”
3 Cone Drill - 6.57 vs 7.2
20 Yard Shuttle - 4.11 vs 4.4
60 Yard Shuttle - 11.06 vs 12.07

The measurables go to Jaleel Scott, the athletic numbers go to Courtland Sutton, but I say the tape goes to Scott.

They’re both dawgs and both solid run blockers, Sutton has a little faster play speed and is better after the catch, but Scott has better hands, is better at going up and attacking the ball and is a better route runner.

But whether we agree or not that Jaleel is the better player, overall they’re very comparable and you’ll be able to get Jaleel two days later. Drafting a combination of D.J. Moore & Jaleel Scott could solidify the receiver position for years to come.
 
2. Courtland Sutton. This is an all-upside ranking, as 6'4" 215 wideouts with faster 3-cones than Julian Edelman basically don't exist. His physical tools are create-a-player level, and he could be a dominant #1 if he puts it all together. On tape though, he's a one-speed loper who runs 2-3 routes and just outjumps sub-NFL athletes. His film looks a lot more like Terrance Williams than Julio Jones, but the Julio-type tools are there. 1st-2nd route grade.

I like your description of Sutton which kind of makes him sound like a potential guy more than a sure fire first round pick. He almost sounds like Noah Brown who we got a lot later in the draft. I still hope we go defense in the first.
 
E. St. Brown
Antonio Callaway
Calvin Ridley
DJ Moore
Anthony Miller
Courtland Sutton
Marquez Valdes-Scantling
Christian Kirk.
James Washington
Jaleel Scott
Deon Cain
Allen Lazard
Tre'Quan Smith
Dante Pettis
DJ Clark
 
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E. St. Brown
Antonio Callaway
Calvin Ridley
DJ Moore
Anthony Miller
Courtland Sutton
Marquez Valdes-Scantling
Christian Kirk.
James Washington
Jaleel Scott
Deon Cain
Allen Lazard
Tre'Quan Smith
Dante Pettis
DJ Clark

*Chark not Clark lol. I'm curious this is your ranking????
 
*Chark not Clark lol. I'm curious this is your ranking????
Tell @Longboysfan :laugh:

I just did a cut/paste from his post and rearranged them plus added a couple.

It is my upside leaning rankings.

In reality, Ridley would have to be #1 due to being much more Pro-Ready and being a very safe bet.

Callaway would be much lower due to character risks.
 
I do not believe that there is a WR in this Class, who can step in and be a sure fire #1 in their Rookie year. If we are going to draft a WR to be that for us, I don't think you draft with the idea that he is that in year one. I think you draft with an eye towards who is best suited to become that guy. JMO.
 
I want a receiver no earlier than 3 even then I'm not a huge fan of any of these receivers I realize there's some quality #2s in this draft. If we're spending a 1st on a receiver I want OBJ type talent not a Ridley type talent.

LG/LB/DT 1st 3 rounds.
 
I keep seeing all this love for St. Brown on the boards, but have also seen numerous scouting reports that question his competitiveness. Some call him called lazy, and question whether he really cares about football. Those are huge red flags for me, even on a 3rd/4th round player.
 
Tell @Longboysfan :laugh:

I just did a cut/paste from his post and rearranged them plus added a couple.

It is my upside leaning rankings.

In reality, Ridley would have to be #1 due to being much more Pro-Ready and being a very safe bet.

Callaway would be much lower due to character risks.

Next to maybe Miller, he's also most Dak-friendly WR in the draft.
 
I keep seeing all this love for St. Brown on the boards, but have also seen numerous scouting reports that question his competitiveness. Some call him called lazy, and question whether he really cares about football. Those are huge red flags for me, even on a 3rd/4th round player.

If there's no passion then the dude is a wasted pick simple and plain. You can't hate going to work every day.
 
I keep seeing all this love for St. Brown on the boards, but have also seen numerous scouting reports that question his competitiveness. Some call him called lazy, and question whether he really cares about football. Those are huge red flags for me, even on a 3rd/4th round player.

I think you are misunderstanding those reports.

Most of them are saying that because his Dad pushed him that it's possible that he plays football for that reason.

That is different than saying he has done something to show that he doesn't love football.
 
I think you are misunderstanding those reports.

Most of them are saying that because his Dad pushed him that it's possible that he plays football for that reason.

That is different than saying he has done something to show that he doesn't love football.

Further, guys who have passion issues tend to show that in college. Brown never had any tea issues at ND that could be construed as desire issues. Some have made the leap that because his stats suffered from his 2nd to 3rd year it might indicate a lack of desire to get better, etc.

That’s largely false as most ND’s QB play was pretty shoddy much of the year.
 

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