X-Man Origins-Wolverine

[Rampage]

I had a problem with the first movie right off the bat that he didnt know Sabertooth. Anything after this fact is just wasted on me due to the fact they cant get that aspect right.

I personally thought the movies were a bad idea anyway because you cant pander to everyones liking or thinking of the characters.

yeah that's another thing. in that one he didn't know him but in this one there brothers. which one is it, film makers?

 

[ShiningStar]

Now now. I didn't hate the movie by any means. I just think I can do a better job.

well a cheaper cast, you can write the whole script and keep all the left over money, I think I can see that movie being made for 40 bucks and a happy happy Dallas.

 

[Hoofbite]

yeah that's another thing. in that one he didn't know him but in this one there brothers. which one is it, film makers?

Well the whole amnesic aspect at the end of the movie would play into that.

 

[Bob Sacamano]

well a cheaper cast, you can write the whole script and keep all the left over money, I think I can see that movie being made for 40 bucks and a happy happy Dallas.

the filmakers kind of got it right though
Dallas would totally screw it up

 

[ShiningStar]

yeah that's another thing. in that one he didn't know him but in this one there brothers. which one is it, film makers?

Now they are brothers. oh lords.

 

[ShiningStar]

the filmakers kind of got it right though
Dallas would totally screw it up

as funny as that is, and it is....i cant really say for sure if he could.


anyway funny post :laugh2::laugh2:

 

[Dallas]

Well the whole amnesic aspect at the end of the movie would play into that.

Great point. He doesn't know who he is let alone his own brother. He didn't even know her (i wont spoil it).

 

[Rampage]

Well the whole amnesic aspect at the end of the movie would play into that.

in the comics he knew.

 

[joseephuss]

I had a problem with the first movie right off the bat that he didnt know Sabertooth. Anything after this fact is just wasted on me due to the fact they cant get that aspect right.

I personally thought the movies were a bad idea anyway because you cant pander to everyones liking or thinking of the characters.

He lost some of his memories. That is why he doesn't remember Sabertooth.

Jackman does a fine job as Wolverine. It would take a change in the writing and directing to make him meaner. Not in the acting.

It seems he is always less mean in media outside of the comic books. Even in the comics his meaness varies quite a bit and has been tamed down quite a bit over time. I don't think a 100% true to comic book(whatever that is) Wolverine would work in the movies. At least work in the sense that it would make a lot of money the way a studio would want. They want the movie to hit a broad audience and I don't think the comic book version would resonate well.

I always thought Wolverine would be great as a HBO or Showtime series. Then it could be darker and grittier. It would play to a smaller audience and cult like following.

 

[ShiningStar]

Great point. He doesn't know who he is let alone his own brother. He didn't even know her (i wont spoil it).

REgardless of this thoughts, which are screwed up from the experiment, he has always hated Sabertooth for whatever reason. They do vary due to the fact his memory, or his implanted memories get confusion, or so some of the comics went. Stupid writers.

 

[ShiningStar]

He lost some of his memories. That is why he doesn't remember Sabertooth.

Jackman does a fine job as Wolverine. It would take a change in the writing and directing to make him meaner. Not in the acting.

It seems he is always less mean in media outside of the comic books. Even in the comics his meaness varies quite a bit and has been tamed down quite a bit over time. I don't think a 100% true to comic book(whatever that is) Wolverine would work in the movies. At least work in the sense that it would make a lot of money the way a studio would want. They want the movie to hit a broad audience and I don't think the comic book version would resonate well.

I always thought Wolverine would be great as a HBO or Showtime series. Then it could be darker and grittier. It would play to a smaller audience and cult like following.

Im not buying the top part, tho thank you for explaining it. He can smell Sabertooth and knows that smell, implanted or past experience he knows Sabertooth to the core. I still hate that part.

I agree with your studio explanation.


I wouldnt let HBO or anyone touch Wolverine as a series, I think it would bother his fan base, im sure he has a big one.

 

[Hoofbite]

in the comics he knew.

Fair enough but you called the filmmakers out on it.

 

[Kevinicus]

Entertaining movie. Good action, decent effects.

I'm still trying to get over that one. Some of the worst blue screen work I've seen in a very long time. The movie costs clost to $150 million to make and they were doing stuff way below T2 level which came out in 1991. I have no idea where they spent the money unless they paid Jackman about 90 million for his part.

 

[The Ominous]

Looks like a Deadpool spinoff has been confirmed:

http://www.superherohype.com/news/x-mennews.php?id=8308

 

[Danny White]

in the comics he knew.

I'm not going to claim to be the world's biggest expert on Wolverine or the Marvel Universe, but I do know enough to know that Wolverine has several backstories, many of which conflict with one another in minor ways.

The relationship between he and Sabertooth was always hinted at, but wasn't always canon law.

I remember in my comic-book reading heyday back in the 80s and early 90s, it wasn't obvious that they were brothers. It's a great plotline, though and I'm glad they pursued that angle in this movie.


People need to realize that these are stories (and always have been) and it's not like there's a definitive and absolute history that goes along with these characters.

As long as someone's telling a good story and keeping the character's essence essentially intact, what's the harm of taking some creative license?

The writers of the comic books themselves have always done this and have been more than willing to bring a character back from the dead or write around past history by creating alternate universes etc.

 

[theogt]

I'm still trying to get over that one. Some of the worst blue screen work I've seen in a very long time. The movie costs clost to $150 million to make and they were doing stuff way below T2 level which came out in 1991. I have no idea where they spent the money unless they paid Jackman about 90 million for his part.

I don't think they were that bad at all.

 

[ShiningStar]

I'm not going to claim to be the world's biggest expert on Wolverine or the Marvel Universe, but I do know enough to know that Wolverine has several backstories, many of which conflict with one another in minor ways.

The relationship between he and Sabertooth was always hinted at, but wasn't always canon law.

I remember in my comic-book reading heyday back in the 80s and early 90s, it wasn't obvious that they were brothers. It's a great plotline, though and I'm glad they pursued that angle in this movie.


People need to realize that these are stories (and always have been) and it's not like there's a definitive and absolute history that goes along with these characters.

As long as someone's telling a good story and keeping the character's essence essentially intact, what's the harm of taking some creative license?

The writers of the comic books themselves have always done this and have been more than willing to bring a character back from the dead or write around past history by creating alternate universes etc.

what is solid about Sabertooth and Wolverine regardless is that they both know each other. We know both were Projects of the Experiment, and that somehow in one shape or another they have a history. For some reason, implanted or not, they dont care for each other. I have read many where Wolverines own memories conflict with his previous statements, but the main fact remains, they knew each other.


Comic book writers today were not as good as they were back in the 60's 70's and early 80's.

 

[DemonBlood]

Mel Gibson circa Lethal Weapon and earlier=Wolverine

 

[lewpac]

I enjoyed this movie................in it's genre and for the purpose for which it was intended. It has to be considered in the "X-Men" saga, and it fits like a hand in a glove in this "theater".

Any time an actor makes you forget who he is off the screen, that's a good actor. You forget that its Hugh Jackman up there on the screen during this movie, and all the X-Men movies for that matter. That makes him a good actor. You get all caught-up in the story of Wolverine, and only after the movie, you're like "Oh yeah, and that was Hugh Jackman playing the part".

Not a theatrical agent or movie critic, I'm just sharing my review. I think it was not only a good show, but a GREAT movie.

BTW, "Ironman" wasn't "all that". It became less "all that" when Downey Jr. had the chutzpah and nuggets to talk down "The Dark Knight" after it totally destroyed last years summer numbers that "Ironman" put up.
"The Dark Knight" made Ironman look like a 13th Rocky movie...............

 

[kristie]

saw it with my husband(who wanted to see it anyway), loved it.