Yahoo: NFL Owner rankings, 1-32: Wayne’s wretched world

Dan Snyder right behind us at #3 is ridiculous. I guess the writer was also praising him when he paid all that money for all the other vets he's brought in and all the receivers.

Either the list is based on great ownership, meaning winning or turning a franchise around or bringing stability, or it is based on great ownership, meaning making lots of money.

The Commanders were always a money organization, and Snyder has simply kept it going and added to it. How he can rank near the top as an owner, even ahead of the Giants, who made a gutsy decision to keep Coughlin in the face of player grumblings led by Tiki Barber, is beyond my comprehension.

Besides making money, what has Snyder done for the Commanders in his years of ownership? He's won nothing, and he hasn't even brought stability to the coaching position, the front office, or anywhere else, nor are they consistantly in the playoffs.

I think having Snyder at #3, along with his reasoning about Jason Taylor, when you consider all the other failed moves in the past, makes this whole list suspect.
 
wayne motley;2155849 said:
Dan Snyder right behind us at #3 is ridiculous. I guess the writer was also praising him when he paid all that money for all the other vets he's brought in and all the receivers.

Either the list is based on great ownership, meaning winning or turning a franchise around or bringing stability, or it is based on great ownership, meaning making lots of money.

The Commanders were always a money organization, and Snyder has simply kept it going and added to it. How he can rank near the top as an owner, even ahead of the Giants, who made a gutsy decision to keep Coughlin in the face of player grumblings led by Tiki Barber, is beyond my comprehension.

Besides making money, what has Snyder done for the Commanders in his years of ownership? He's won nothing, and he hasn't even brought stability to the coaching position, the front office, or anywhere else, nor are they consistantly in the playoffs.

I think having Snyder at #3, along with his reasoning about Jason Taylor, when you consider all the other failed moves in the past, makes this whole list suspect.

Profits & revenues weigh heavily when ranking an owner, and he certainly knows how to make money. Plus, just like Kraft, he's a great player's owner, and really has always tried to do the charitable and just thing when it comes to his players.
 
Tovya;2155858 said:
Profits & revenues weigh heavily when ranking an owner, and he certainly knows how to make money. Plus, just like Kraft, he's a great player's owner, and really has always tried to do the charitable and just thing when it comes to his players.

Additionally, a lot of what Snyder gets bashed for are things he did 10 years ago. He came into Commanders Park like a whirlwind firing people that had been there a long, long time. He stepped on a lot of toes. He did not make a lot of friends in the media.

Also, he gets a lot of flack for his outside ventures (Six Flags, Johnny Rockets, Red Zebra, etc.). Really, except for Red Zebra, they have nothing to do with football. Overall I like Snyder -- I would rather have an owner who is willing to do whatever it takes and fail then one who sits and never tries, whines about salaries, and worries only about profit.

He gets bashed a lot locally for much of what he does, but the acts he does for his players are barely blips on the radar.
 
Snyder apologists?

The bottom line is the Commanders have won nothing. They aren't threatening to do anything. They were bashed for using their top selections this year in the draft all on one position.

If taking a storied franchise like the Commanders and making money (nothing new in Washington) or doing some good deeds in the community is all it takes to be considered a great owner, then the Commanders should be very happy with Dan Snyder, even though they are not a playoff team and were heckled for their recent head-coaching search.

When they miss the playoffs again this season, will the fans be happy their owner is making tons of money and giving a little of it back to the community?

I am a Commanders hater for sure, but I used to begrudgingly give them their props back during Gibbs first tenure and even when Brunnel was leading them over the Cowboys and into a playoff birth. But now? The Skins franchise may be the top money maker, but I give that credit to their rabid fan base...they are certainly a weaker franchise as far as winning games in the NFL and competing for the playoffs than they have been in the past.

I don't call that great ownership...not at all.
 
wayne motley;2155897 said:
Snyder apologists?

The bottom line is the Commanders have won nothing. They aren't threatening to do anything. They were bashed for using their top selections this year in the draft all on one position.

If taking a storied franchise like the Commanders and making money (nothing new in Washington) or doing some good deeds in the community is all it takes to be considered a great owner, then the Commanders should be very happy with Dan Snyder, even though they are not a playoff team and were heckled for their recent head-coaching search.

When they miss the playoffs again this season, will the fans be happy their owner is making tons of money and giving a little of it back to the community?

I am a Commanders hater for sure, but I used to begrudgingly give them their props back during Gibbs first tenure and even when Brunnel was leading them over the Cowboys and into a playoff birth. But now? The Skins franchise may be the top money maker, but I give that credit to their rabid fan base...they are certainly a weaker franchise as far as winning games in the NFL and competing for the playoffs than they have been in the past.

I don't call that great ownership...not at all.

Has Dan Snyder made mistakes? Yep. I think firing Marty Schottenheimer being near the top of the list on that one. And some of his moves have been colossal disasters.

I am a Cowboys hater. I begrudgingly give Jones credit for what he has done in the league. However, he wasn't exactly beloved his first 10 years in the league. He fired the only coaches to ever bring you a Super Bowl in Landry and Johnson. (I am not including Switzer here b/c a monkey farting on a snare drum could have won with that team. And one did, actually, his name was Neil O'Donnell!). He replaced them hired a string of nitwit puppets in Switzer, Gailey, Campo, etc. He made a plethora of boneheaded moves (2 1sts for Joey Galloway?) And his drafts post-Johnson/pre-Parcells weren't exactly stellar either.
 
Sonny#9;2155910 said:
Has Dan Snyder made mistakes? Yep. I think firing Marty Schottenheimer being near the top of the list on that one. And some of his moves have been colossal disasters.

I am a Cowboys hater. I begrudgingly give Jones credit for what he has done in the league. However, he wasn't exactly beloved his first 10 years in the league. He fired the only coaches to ever bring you a Super Bowl in Landry and Johnson. (I am not including Switzer here b/c a monkey farting on a snare drum could have won with that team. And one did, actually, his name was Neil O'Donnell!). He replaced them hired a string of nitwit puppets in Switzer, Gailey, Campo, etc. He made a plethora of boneheaded moves (2 1sts for Joey Galloway?) And his drafts post-Johnson/pre-Parcells weren't exactly stellar either.

I don't think there's any question that Jones made plenty of mistakes, but he does appear to have learned from them. The Cowboys are much better at mnaging the salary cap in hti decade and recent drafts have improved the team. The new stadium appears to be THE cutting edge for stadiums, and in all of this, Jones continues to make money and is now fielding a team with a legitimate shot to win another Super Bowl. Daniel Snyder does know how to make money, but he still hasn't figured out a way to win. The article gives him props for trying, but only time will tell.
 
There's no comparison when judging Jones' and Snyder's 1st 10 seasons as NFL owners. Not only did JJ bring in the dough, he brought TITLES! IMO, until the little guy makes the Skins champions he should not be in the top 10 when it comes to owners. Yes, he takes care of his players... yes, he makes ginormous amounts of $$$, but if your franchise isn't winning, then what's the point (especially from a fan's standpoint)?! I'm sure he enjoys his prosperity, but what do the fans (you know, the ones who actually spend their money on his product) get in return? A playoff game every other season? Obstructed view seating at the X? Wild card t-shirts? I just don't see where the guy deserves to be above the Rooneys and the Irsays as far as being a "great" owner (unless you're a 30-something former Pro Bowler looking for that last big payday;) ).
 
wayne motley;2155897 said:
Snyder apologists?

The bottom line is the Commanders have won nothing. They aren't threatening to do anything. They were bashed for using their top selections this year in the draft all on one position.

If taking a storied franchise like the Commanders and making money (nothing new in Washington) or doing some good deeds in the community is all it takes to be considered a great owner, then the Commanders should be very happy with Dan Snyder, even though they are not a playoff team and were heckled for their recent head-coaching search.

When they miss the playoffs again this season, will the fans be happy their owner is making tons of money and giving a little of it back to the community?

I am a Commanders hater for sure, but I used to begrudgingly give them their props back during Gibbs first tenure and even when Brunnel was leading them over the Cowboys and into a playoff birth. But now? The Skins franchise may be the top money maker, but I give that credit to their rabid fan base...they are certainly a weaker franchise as far as winning games in the NFL and competing for the playoffs than they have been in the past.

I don't call that great ownership...not at all.

you speak of this as if it is a reaccuring trend. The skins have been in the postseason 2 of the last 3 years... just as much as you beloved cowboys
 
*Scans replies for "mediot" jibes--finds none--goes back to eating danish.*
 
"In league circles, Kraft has been a trusted confidante of Goodell’s whose forward-thinking approaches on numerous issues have served his partners well."

Thats an understatement if I have ever heard one. I hate cheaters and crooks.
 
Sonny#9;2155872 said:
Additionally, a lot of what Snyder gets bashed for are things he did 10 years ago. He came into Commanders Park like a whirlwind firing people that had been there a long, long time. He stepped on a lot of toes. He did not make a lot of friends in the media.

Also, he gets a lot of flack for his outside ventures (Six Flags, Johnny Rockets, Red Zebra, etc.). Really, except for Red Zebra, they have nothing to do with football. Overall I like Snyder -- I would rather have an owner who is willing to do whatever it takes and fail then one who sits and never tries, whines about salaries, and worries only about profit.

He gets bashed a lot locally for much of what he does, but the acts he does for his players are barely blips on the radar.


I hate to say that I agree with you (I am biting my lip as I type this), but I do. Snyder is an all around good guy in my book. I hate his team in worst way, but if I were in the NFL as a player, I would love for him to be my big boss. He isn't a penny pincher... he always throws his money and personal assets around for their good.

Sure, he hasn't built a winner, but it's not because of a lack of effort. He treats his players like people instead of merchandise (much like Kraft and Jones) and while I hope he fails miserably at building a championship contender, on a personal level I wish nothing but the best for him. Somethings transcend the gridiron.. and Snyder certainly shows it on a regular basis.
 
Tovya;2156211 said:
I hate to say that I agree with you (I am biting my lip as I type this), but I do. Snyder is an all around good guy in my book. I hate his team in worst way, but if I were in the NFL as a player, I would love for him to be my big boss. He isn't a penny pincher... he always throws his money and personal assets around for their good.

Sure, he hasn't built a winner, but it's not because of a lack of effort. He treats his players like people instead of merchandise (much like Kraft and Jones) and while I hope he fails miserably at building a championship contender, on a personal level I wish nothing but the best for him. Somethings transcend the gridiron.. and Snyder certainly shows it on a regular basis.



Snyder is a complete and total jerk. I know people who have worked with him and worked for him.

In summary - total Jerk!!!!

I mean lets face it. He took tickets from the Washington Post because they wrote negative articles about him and the team. Thats just pitiful in and of itself.
 
I have said it 10,000 times...we are blessed as Cowboy fans to have Jerry.
 
aikemirv;2156273 said:
Snyder is a complete and total jerk. I know people who have worked with him and worked for him.

In summary - total Jerk!!!!

I mean lets face it. He took tickets from the Washington Post because they wrote negative articles about him and the team. Thats just pitiful in and of itself.

Well, don't drag me too far into defending the guy, but I'd bet that most of my employees on the lower end of the totem pole don't actually love me either. It's hard to be loved when you are the big boss. It's just a fact of owning a business. You can't make everyone happy all of the time... it's stinks, but I can't make everyone love me.
 
yeahyeah;2156291 said:
I have said it 10,000 times...we are blessed as Cowboy fans to have Jerry.

As much as you don't want to admit it -- they're cut from the same cloth.
 

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